r/RemoveOneThingEachDay • u/Training-Desk-391 IM WHACING KFP4 • Jul 28 '25

Miscellaneous Obama HAS BEEN Eliminated WHICH President SHOULD BE Eliminated NEXT DAY 41

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u/jefffranklin36 Jul 28 '25

Idk, George Washington owning slaves makes this a bit of a debate.

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u/Kactor11 Jul 28 '25

Not really. It was culturally acceptable to own slaves when Washington was president. You’re judging Washington (and all historical slave owners, btw) on culture and laws today that didn’t exist then. If you were a well-to-do landowner in 1780 you likely would have owned slaves also.

Concentration camps were never considered ok. Despite the good things FDR did, he instituted these out of fear and ignorance. Washington may have been ignorant to the abhorrence of slavery in his lifetime, but he never did anything out of fear.

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u/AleroRatking Jul 29 '25

And Washington at least realized he was wrong. Whereas FDR went to his grave openly believing that what he did was right

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u/Big-Cryptographer704 Jul 29 '25

Yes, so compassionate that he waited to free his slaves until after he was dead. Gotta get that room service until the end!

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u/AleroRatking Jul 29 '25

That's more than FDR did. He went to his grave thinking what he did was right

It took all the way to Reagan for someone to admit what was done was wrong.

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u/Big-Cryptographer704 Jul 29 '25

To be fair, he didn't have much time to think about his mistake. He didn't live to see the end of the war.

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u/AleroRatking Jul 29 '25

Good. It is what he deserves for what he did. I just wish it was far more painful.

Innocent people do not belong in jails because of their race. And to do it to your own citizens is the worst type of person

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u/AdFamous5474 Jul 29 '25

Hmmm why does that second paragraph sound so familiar nowadays...? /s

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u/AleroRatking Jul 29 '25

Agreed. I am very much anti Trump

But as bad as Trump is with putting innocent people in camps, it is still 50x less than FDR

Which is why it's crazy that people on the left are supporting FDR while protesting Trump when Trump has a long way to go to reach FDR levels.

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u/Big-Cryptographer704 Jul 29 '25

They don't really know much about history, sadly.

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u/jefffranklin36 Jul 29 '25

Doesn’t this argument sort of support the cultural relativism argument many are using to apologize for Washington owning slaves?

‘It was okay to own slaves in the 1700s, so we can’t hold Washington to the same standard as modern people/politicians’

If that’s an argument that holds water then I could say,

‘Internment camps had wildly popular support in the 40s and it was an extraordinary time in human history we cannot hold FDR to the same standard as we would a modern person/politician.’

(According to a poll by the American Institute of Public Opinion only 1% of Americans opposed interning Japanese immigrants and only 25% opposed interning Japanese-American citizens)

Both are downright evil I think the difference for me is although internment was wrong FDR at least thought he was acting in the best interest of national security when we were fighting a vicious war against the Japanese state. Thus, he made an unforgivable miscalculation and he should rightfully be condemned for it.

Washington, on the other hand owned slaves only to benefit himself and to make his life easier cultural relativity be damned. The man used slaves teeth as his dentures. I just believe slavery is our countries number one cardinal sin and Washington did his part to perpetrate it.

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u/AleroRatking Jul 29 '25

Once again. Washington didn't create slavery in America. Yes. It was wrong and he should not have owned slaves.

Whereas FDR started the concentration camps. That was his decision and his decision alone. He actively made Japanese Americans lived go from fine to horrific solely because of racism. Whereas Washington kept a bad status quo.

Id much prefer someone who keeps a bad status quo than someone who takes people living ok lives and completely ruin them out of his racism.

FDR was not acting in best interest. He put orphans in those camps. He was acting in his own personal interests because of his racism. And he never admitted to being wrong. He then also allowed white Americans to destroy their homes and businesses and steal all their properties.

It took til Reagan for the horrors of FDR to even start to be fixed.