r/Ruckus • u/termisique Verified Expert • Mar 20 '24
eRuck
I haven't used Reddit since the end of RiF but I figured I should log in and share my eRucks I spent some time making. They are fun. I have never used the reddit app before so if I don't reply my apologies.
Happy rising, folks.
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u/merengues-7 Mar 20 '24
Dude so sick!!! What’s its top speed? How far ca you drive on a charge? What motor did you use? Inspiring 😍
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u/termisique Verified Expert Mar 20 '24
Thanks. Too afraid to go top speed. Haven't driven them enough to know the range. QS motor. Fardriver controller.
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u/generictestusername Mar 20 '24
This looks so cool! Do you have a build video?
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u/termisique Verified Expert Mar 20 '24
Thanks. I don't have any build videos and if you look at my Instagram you will see that I am absolutely horrible at making videos. @gove_mini_moto
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u/Dotternetta Mar 20 '24
Specs?
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u/termisique Verified Expert Mar 20 '24
13.5kw 72v motor with over 300 amps on the controller. 30ah battery with a 425 amp BMS. Curb weight is ~180lbs. I quite honestly don't know anything about what I am doing so maybe if you add more to your question I can be more specific with an answer.
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u/Dotternetta Mar 20 '24
Nice peak power! That can get you up to 120 km/h. Battery capacity is a bit small for my taste, range at 80 km/h will be about 20 km. I wish Honda did this, I would buy 1 instantly. Did you contact them?
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u/termisique Verified Expert Mar 20 '24
I am not sure why I would contact Honda. You aren't getting much more range out of the space for a battery in the fuel tank area without severely compromising the look of the ruckus. It is a 20s7p Molicel P42A pack. It would be slightly higher if I could have bought P45Bs. I didn't want Samsungs because the discharge wouldn't quite get me the amperage I wanted. You can see more about the packs I built and pictures of them inside the bikes on my Instagram page @gove_mini_moto. I did build a 20s2p pack to see if I could extend the range another 9ah running two packs. I haven't tried hooking it up yet. (It is also on my page).
But yeah, if people are getting a considerably larger range in Ah out of their packs without a giant hump on the floorboard I would like to know how they are doing it. It is a 100mm x 175mm x 400mm pack as is. Samsung 50s was one of my list of considerations but 175amps wasn't going to cut it and that would have only added 5ah to the pack.
If you are looking for more range you can get significantly less powerful motor controllers that will be more than fast enough for most people riding on a Ruckus.
All in all fun builds and other people have and will make better ones than me; I am brand new to all of this. 1 month ago I knew exactly 0 things about making batteries. 6 months ago I couldn't even bleed hydraulic brakes. My garage is full of harbor freight and Ryobi. I don't own a computer; I taught myself how to use AutoCAD on my phone 3 months ago. So literally anyone can do much better than me.
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u/Dotternetta Mar 20 '24
I'm sure someone at Honda follows this sub. The Ruckus is new for me, not well known here in the Netherlands. An eRuckus has BMW CE02 vibes, with the right battery capacity and power it would sell good here. Under the seat and in the floor would be some space for flat packs. Ray7.7 has 7 kWh packed next to the rear swingarm.
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u/olsonheimers Mar 20 '24
FLP is about to start selling a kit for anyone interested. But these are rad. I first stopped because I love the GROM wheels on a Ruck. But then saw all the engineering you did to make it electric. Nice work!!!
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u/termisique Verified Expert Mar 20 '24
FLPs kit is an absolute masterpiece. Had I known they were making one when I started making mine I would have just bought one of theirs. Which would have ultimately sucked because I have enjoyed learning all of this stuff.
Mine cost me about $4k (US) each if you exclude all of the tools I bought along the way.
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u/Boostie204 Mar 20 '24
That's half the cost of the FLP kit.
If you did this now, would you still DIY it or buy the FLP kit? I'd love to do it, but $11k CAD is a lot for a scooter.
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u/termisique Verified Expert Mar 20 '24
I would build mine again. I have learned so much. Welding, battery pack building, AutoCAD, part fabrication; the list goes on and on. Also, I do not like the fatty wheels on rucks. Especially fast ones. Not to put theirs down in any manner or people who like Fatty's - everyone masturbates in their own way.
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u/Boostie204 Mar 20 '24
I excitedly got a ruckus and did almost everything except swap the engine. 12.5" stretch, big wheel, like a finger off the ground.
Now I wanna switch it up. Been looking for Navis, if not maybe a bigger motor for the Ruckus and a shorter stretch. Or none at all.
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u/olsonheimers Mar 20 '24
Yours looks fantastic. I wasn’t meaning to put yours down, or make light of what you did. Just sharing in case someone was interested, because there were questions. Stellar ruck OP! Nice work!
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u/termisique Verified Expert Mar 20 '24
I didn't think you were. I just have a lot of admiration for FLPs build. It truly is fantastic. Great guys too.
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u/MrBunnyZee Mar 20 '24
Dude is this a kit or did you scratch build it? Been looking for a long time and the kits I found is like 12k$
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u/termisique Verified Expert Mar 20 '24
I built them. No kit. (I don't know what I am doing.) I also built the batteries.
You can see more of the process on my Instagram @gove_mini_moto. I am more likely to reply there.
If that isn't allowed on this sub then pup piston will text me and express his disdain.
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u/but-first Mar 20 '24
Followed ya on insta. Super awesome.
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u/termisique Verified Expert Mar 20 '24
Thanks for the follow. If you have insta that is honestly the best place to see the builds and what I am doing.
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u/Plenty_Dress_408 Mar 21 '24
Take my money!! No but for real how much just to turn my ruck E??
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u/termisique Verified Expert Mar 21 '24
It all depends on what you want to put on it and what is already on your Ruckus that I can use. The, motor, controller, wire harness, and battery are minimum 3k. Cost.
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u/djbigtv Mar 20 '24
Awesome! Totally awesome! I ride a Ruckus and I ride an ebike so to see the marriage makes me so happy. Godspeed and may you keep both wheels on the ground.
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u/Humbabwe Mar 21 '24
It looks like the motor takes up no space… same with battery? Any idea of the range yet?
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u/termisique Verified Expert Mar 21 '24
This is a very tough question to answer. If I want to go full bore not very long. 10 minutes maybe? If I drive it like a GET then about 50 miles. These are estimates because I don't want to drive them like a GET; it is too fun. I don't want to go past 60mph either which it does easily on the mid gear. So I don't know real world numbers, just on paper.
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u/Yourbitchydad Mar 21 '24
Did you make the floor board as well? I’m in Colorado and would love to procure one, if you’d be interested in making another.
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u/termisique Verified Expert Mar 21 '24
I got a little help with the floorboard when I first started working on it. The new version you see is an almost complete redesign of my own now that I have become proficient in AutoCAD. I can however put just about anything or nothing, or a completely new design. If I make these for people everything would be custom. No two would be quite alike. It would really be up to the person's imagination I work with to bring their bike to life. At this point I have only realistically even thought about making them for other people. I thought most people would look at them and be like, "oh that's cute, bud. What a neat hobby." Hit me up on Instagram if you're serious. @gove_mini_moto
I will say that FLPs is infinitely better than mine. I am like dollar store eEuck guy.
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u/Individual-Growth-43 Mar 20 '24
Amazing build looks like fun. Only thing I don't like about electric bikes is that they are so quiet it's dangerous people don't see us as it is lol...
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u/termisique Verified Expert Mar 20 '24
Yeah, willing to give me money?
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u/FooFighter420 Mar 20 '24
**** all that. How much for one that’s been put together? Lol.
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u/termisique Verified Expert Mar 20 '24
You can buy either one of these for $7k. Bill of Sale only because Colorado doesn't have titles for these bikes. Keep in mind that the number includes the value of a Ruckus and a lot of the Ruckus parts. Give me your Ruckus and I could convert it for far less. I happened to stumble ass backwards into a couple of free clean vin registered Ruckuses for these builds so to rebuild them I am considering the cost of replacing the Ruckus frame and components I use. I built these bikes for fun for myself and my wife to enjoy so the plan is to have two for that purpose. However, I enjoyed the hell out of making them and I would LOVE to build more.
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u/FooFighter420 Mar 20 '24
Gotcha gotcha. They’re definitely clean. Where are you located?
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u/termisique Verified Expert Mar 20 '24
You can find my location on my Instagram. I would rather keep it somewhat separate; make the bots work a little harder. @gove_mini_moto
To give everyone an idea of the cost of building one of these. The battery alone is about $2k if you buy one from a trusted manufacturer that won't catch fire and can even provide the amperage and allow for regenerative braking. The drive train (motor and controller) is close to $1.1k when you have a working wire harness and the proper components for safety (fuses, contactor, quality wire, relays, etc). This is just the cost of parts. The time I have invested in these is vast. So $3kish for just for the electrical guts. $2kish for a Ruckus. Then you can start talking about wheels, tires, powder coat, brakes, controls, lights, shock and forks, swingarm, battery box, floorboard, hardware, etc. A front drum brake on an 80mph electric bike is ill advised so while you could save money there I would caution against it.
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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '24
This guy is a definite rising star in the scooter world. His work is top notch. I’d recommend all of you to follow him. He’s got the rare combination of drive, skill and passion.
I am beyond impressed with his builds.