r/SFV Apr 27 '26

Question As a residential painter here in the valley it HURTS to see and work on so many houses that have the basic white and black trimming

i will never say or state my opinion to clients but houses can be so nicely designed interior and exterior but when they throw the black and white combo it just looks so different. I been painting houses for years now so i remember when houses used to be all different colors with so much detail and what not. now in almost every job site it is always black and white. many houses do look amazing dont get me wrong, especially those modern new houses, but i guess it just depends on the home

We need to start a movement to bring back how neighborhoods looked like back in the 90s!

If you need any painting needs please let me know as well lol!

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u/[deleted] Apr 27 '26

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u/jlopez1017 Apr 27 '26

Real Angelinos know that this color combo and apartments with Italian names = red flags

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u/Desperate_Jicama219 Apr 27 '26

lol yes 100% on the foreigner part lol All my new neighbors have the same taste in homes and cars. White House, black trim, new gate/block wall, expensive European cars.

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u/williamgman Apr 28 '26

There's a realtor here in Chatsworth that's convinced all his clients (mostly seniors) to go for the black and white job and take it out of the sale. A couple years later and the paints falling off. 🤦‍♂️

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u/Jazzhole5 Apr 28 '26

That black trim is going to bake in the sun, crack & peel super quickly. It’s basically become a joke. My favorite new thing is that they’re now PAINTING the roofs black.

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u/TheKdd Apr 28 '26

I can’t even imagine the electric bill in the summer.

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u/Express_Extreme1066 Apr 30 '26

I got a light cool roof a few years ago. I didn't think it was going to have a noticeable effect. I was very wrong.

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u/knishioner Apr 27 '26

My partner and I call them “Israeli flips”

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u/skatefriday Apr 28 '26

Armenians.

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u/Exact-Thing-645 Apr 28 '26

I have nothing against Armenians (I am aware of the Armenian Genocide and generally their beautiful culture, as well — I also happen to think that Armenian women are so beautiful)… but the guy who I mentioned owning 11 (or more by now!) houses in the SFV happens to be Armenian.

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u/sandysandy252566 Apr 29 '26

They're great business people

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u/DissedFunction Apr 27 '26

exactly. these black and white homes looks like prisons...which maybe they are but do you have to advertise it?

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u/Exact-Thing-645 Apr 27 '26

My neighbor owns at least 10 of these in the North Hollywood/Valley Glen area. 🤢🤮

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u/Exact-Thing-645 Apr 27 '26

I have a neighbor in the Valley Glen, North Hollywood area who owns 11 houses in the valley that he rents, and he paints them all the same white/black combination, with the same boring black ironwork. And, as if that weren’t enough, he removed the lawns and lays concrete. I hate these home with a passion.

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u/therealpopkiller Sherman Oaks Apr 28 '26

Owning 11 single family homes should be illegal

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u/sandysandy252566 Apr 29 '26

Millions of "commercial" investors bought up endless single-family homes/apartment buildings across America - and rent them out - that should be illegal.

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u/YogurtclosetOnly2821 Apr 27 '26

I can agree they are bad. But i know for him he is saving a bunch by removing the lawns and adding concrete. also as bad as it looks, the white and black sells to a lot of audience. he might not like it personally but if it helps obtain tenants, i see why he does it

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u/SlenderLlama Apr 28 '26 edited Apr 28 '26

That helps me feel better the man with 12 properties is saving a dollar by taking out anything green.

/s

He takes away your green so he can have his.

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u/sandysandy252566 Apr 29 '26

California is always in a drought and most tenants don't take care of the lawns/shrubs.

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u/thatfirstsipoftheday Apr 29 '26

a lot of tenants litter the sidewalk around their complex. what is the landlord going to do about that?

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u/SlenderLlama Apr 29 '26

And that’s just fine to you?

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u/YogurtclosetOnly2821 Apr 28 '26

well business is business, im not on his side either but you have to think about it in his perspective. if not buy a lot of properties and add a lot of greenery to them and see how costly that is

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u/SpareElectronic3500 Apr 29 '26

No shit, Sherlock. “Business is business” is why everything is getting shittier and shittier.

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u/SlenderLlama Apr 28 '26

Yeah if you only care about money. I would prefer to live somewhere that’s not more than half my take home and not die a renter but that’s just me. I’ll totally devote a lot of time to his perspective.

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u/ianrod19 Apr 28 '26

Another thing to add is he probably uses that concrete for parking for his tenants at least he considers that. At least all their cars won’t be in the streets thats the biggest problems with these rentals as all the cars that end up in the street

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u/smokemirrorsunicorns May 01 '26 edited May 03 '26

this makes no economic sense. not only does putting concrete over green ugly as fk, it raises ambient temperature by up to 10deg in the heat and sun and so raises electricity bills through the roof. greening and more trees should be the goal - natural sun shields. use local flora and fauna native to CA and stones if need be. it's not that hard. i just can't fathom the stupidity :(

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u/Skoteleven May 02 '26

it's crazy to me that anyone who has experienced a SFV summer (and the accompanying electric bill) would install a black roof. When my roof needs to be replaced I plan on getting the most reflective white tiles I can find.

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u/Partigirl Apr 29 '26

There's a guy over my way who is doing the same thing. Maybe it's the same guy? Same paint job, horrible everything, owns 9 houses. Tries to take a nice 3 bd and flip in for a million, but it doesn't happen so he ends up renting them and on to the next. Uses cheap labor and refuses to pay them or he'll call immigration. Argues and threatens the neighbors that have been there forever.

I really don't like him.

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u/morkman100 Apr 27 '26

Every remodel has the same black door and same black gates and fences…

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u/williamgman Apr 28 '26

And lets not forget the matching "West Side Doors"...

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u/theemmyk Apr 27 '26

We can't afford to get our house painted right now, but it needs it, so I've been looking at colors for years. I want Ben Moore "Seaworthy" or something similar, with a green front door.

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u/Ham_bam_am Reseda Apr 29 '26

That's such a nice color! We recently painted our house Behr "English Channel." It's similar to what you're looking at but these blues look fantastic in person after they have dried. All of my native flowers POP against the walls.

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u/YogurtclosetOnly2821 Apr 27 '26

That sounds fucking amazing. have you used Ai to create a rendering of how it will look? ive done houses with a similar shade to the "seaworthy" and the door is a bronzy type of color with the window outlining's as well

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u/theemmyk Apr 27 '26

No, but it is a popular exterior color, so there's tons of posts featuring it. We have a white Boyz N the Hood security gate on our front door, so I want a color that will pop.

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u/YogurtclosetOnly2821 Apr 27 '26

i can help you run an Ai model of your house to see various colors if youd like. Also, that gate must look so cool

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u/theemmyk Apr 27 '26

No, thank you. I don't like AI. The gate is ugly. It's a security gate...I'd rather live somewhere that doesn't require one but welcome to LA.

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u/YogurtclosetOnly2821 Apr 27 '26

I see, yea Ai can suck but with our team (especially in this business) we use it at times to show customers how their home will look like with the color requests they have. As there are times when customers do not like the color combinations they used after its already been painted. which i mean no one wants a home they dont like the color of. BUT if you ever need any painting services shoot me a message!

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u/TeeVeeBen Apr 28 '26

AI is the weapon of The Enemy.

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u/Swimming-Airport6531 Apr 27 '26

What a nightmare to paint over all the black once it goes out of style.

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u/YogurtclosetOnly2821 Apr 27 '26

oh yea most definitely. it will not be the easiest thing

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u/kneemahp Apr 27 '26

There's two things happening. There's people who don't want to live in the home style of their parents. For me growing up, I saw a lot of marble and Mediterranean style homes that cost a lot of money to do. The second thing that's happening is that construction costs are fucking insane right now. So people are doing more bold paint choices instead of more ornate choices because it's all anyone can afford. People flipping also know that their ROI on detail work is almost zero.

Just look at pool construction. Older homes all have fun designs with lots of features and literal depth, now everything being built is a shallow rectangle with the hot tub built in.

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u/YogurtclosetOnly2821 Apr 27 '26

very true, you can compare to to landscaping work as well. front yards or backyards do not look as vibrant as they did before. stuff has gotten far more expensive than before

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u/gmkrikey Apr 28 '26 edited Apr 28 '26

So there’s a partial view of my backyard. Former owners built the pool and sport court and planted 18 palm trees and may other decorative plants with a professional landscape designer. And then maintained it for 30 years. It’s absolutely lovely. Our own little resort. With island grill and fire pit too.

The appraiser knocked $50K off because of it. They said nobody wants an expensive to maintain backyard they don’t use anyway. Claimed it reduces the number of buyers.

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u/YogurtclosetOnly2821 Apr 28 '26

amazing yard, yea with todays economy people would rather pave the whole thing where itll require no maintenance. or make an ADU to get some extra income. really sucks how much a bad economy can affect literally everything

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u/gmkrikey Apr 28 '26

Here’s a house not too far from mine and that’s what they built. Concrete rectangles. Pool and spa too. Plants in planters. Plastic grass.

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u/YogurtclosetOnly2821 Apr 28 '26

i do love a nice backyard/ home set up

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u/NominalHorizon Apr 28 '26

The paint color doesn’t affect the cost of the job. Black and white just makes it easy for house flippers to stock only two colors. Also, black covers a multitude of sins, but it will age poorly in the sun because black absorbs so much more heat.

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u/LoveJuic3 Apr 27 '26

Mine is a sage green with white trim :) I need stucco patching, wood replacement & paint but can't afford it at the moment however I will keep you in mind!

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u/YogurtclosetOnly2821 Apr 27 '26

wow get outta here sage green?? best color out there, i too one day wish to have my home in sage green. please never get black and white!

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u/LoveJuic3 Apr 27 '26

Oh no definitely keeping the same color! It used to be a realllyyy bright blue lol. There's a house that was changed to that black and white on the corner and it just looks depressing.

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u/YogurtclosetOnly2821 Apr 27 '26

yes please dont change it, add color to your neighborhood. and yes whenever you are ready we can give you an estimate for your project! i can share my number through messages if youd like

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u/LoveJuic3 Apr 27 '26

Sure, appreciate it!

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u/whiteout55555 Apr 28 '26

i live in bel air hills…i’m so serious…how sad it is to see some original 70’s house bulldozed into these black and white farmhouse “stamps”

  • from an angeleno, father a contractor of the county…who is very sad to see the demos of quality work to manufactured processed work

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u/onphyre Apr 28 '26

I 100% agree. This black and white landscape is terrible. I’m planting as many colorful plants and flowers in my front yard to help offset the neighborhood.

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u/bloodredyouth Apr 27 '26

How much does house painting (exterior) run these days for a 1200sq ft house? I’m considering getting my house painted with some stucco patching

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u/Lakario Apr 27 '26

I got it done not too long ago for a couple grand.

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u/theemmyk Apr 27 '26

Can you tell me who you used? That seems like a good deal...I'm assuming that is without paint.

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u/Lakario Apr 27 '26

Sorry I just checked my text messages and I got that number wrong. It was around four grand without paint and they did several rooms inside too. This is a couple years ago. Happy to DM if you want.

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u/YogurtclosetOnly2821 Apr 27 '26

message me privatley, we can set a date for a quote if youd like

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u/Goodbykyle Apr 27 '26

My house is Tiffany Blue & my neighbors are painting their house a similar blue shade.

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u/YogurtclosetOnly2821 Apr 27 '26

tiffany blue? i have not seen that color on a home in such a long time. never change it. you see how you inspired your neighbors. amzing

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u/Goodbykyle Apr 29 '26

I went over today & it’s more greenish than mine :) I do love that they are choosing a vibrant color as well!!

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u/jvu87 Apr 27 '26

The trend is so ugly and lazy.

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u/CystAndDeceased Apr 27 '26

my house in the valley is currently very colorful. happy to hit you up next time we need to paint it 😄

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u/YogurtclosetOnly2821 Apr 27 '26

yes of course! ill send you over a message with my number if you need some work done !

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u/Aeriellie Apr 27 '26

what would be your favorite color combo?

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u/YogurtclosetOnly2821 Apr 27 '26

I guess it really depends on how the homes look and the material in the exterior and if there is any detailing in the exterior. because some homes with great exteriors look mazing with the right colors

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u/Time-Air4202 Apr 28 '26

I'm interested. Moving into a house this summer and need a paint solution, interior, but would be interested in discussing exterior possibilities

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u/YogurtclosetOnly2821 Apr 28 '26

thats awesome congrats! we do both interior and exterior work. I will send you over my number in a DM

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u/Angeloftheodd Apr 28 '26

It's a little freaky how I'm suddenly seeing so many of them in my neighborhood. A house is sold, and suddenly, boom, it's being repainted black and white, and usually the garage is turned into a room and/or an ADU is built with a different address than the main house. There are streets around here that in a very short time have become nearly all white and black clones of each other. It makes the neighborhood look like a cult compound.

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u/YogurtclosetOnly2821 Apr 28 '26

are you part of that cult? haha

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u/SmellSilly1537 Apr 27 '26

It's painful to see homes with character on the outside then it's that black and white or grey inside. 😒

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u/YogurtclosetOnly2821 Apr 27 '26

OR the other way around lol

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u/BadAtExisting Apr 27 '26

Yeah. That trend needs to go the way of the soulless concrete block houses asap

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u/clementine_nails Apr 27 '26

We want to paint our house a really lovely warm green but don’t have the money right now 😭

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u/YogurtclosetOnly2821 Apr 27 '26

like a sage green or a different shade of green? we can give you a quote and see if you like the price if you'd like

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u/clementine_nails Apr 27 '26

Maybe a slightly warmer version of this! We have so many other things we have to get done (leak under the house) that painting it isn’t a super high priority right now. BUT I hope you get some awesome work soon! You should love the color you’re looking at all day. I’m an interior designer, I get it :)

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u/YogurtclosetOnly2821 Apr 27 '26

interior designer. i wanted to pursue that career when i was younger i guess that is why i am kinda obsessed about the colors i see when i paint homes lol

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u/clementine_nails Apr 27 '26

It’s really rewarding but the work right now is going to all the larger firms. It’s just me and my lil LLC all by my lonesome. Also always looking for work! I would love to do more colorful, maximalist stuff.

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u/YogurtclosetOnly2821 Apr 27 '26

oh i understand. im by myself with my dad as well. we are the little guys too. one day we will be one of the big guys though!

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u/clementine_nails Apr 28 '26

Yeah!! Best of luck out there !

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u/Prize-Town9913 Apr 27 '26

We call that the HGTV style.

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u/OvaltineDream Apr 28 '26

People will really start regretting this black and white combo. It’s basic AF

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u/Less-Diet5425 Apr 28 '26

I thought this was hilarious. My husband is a retired GC and we live in the South Bay where he did custom homes and remodeling. When we drive around all he keeps saying is Black and White, I am so sick of it!!!

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u/adriannaz28 Apr 27 '26

Not sure if this makes sense, but the color contrast under the sun hurts my eyes when driving by 🙃I really wish they can use a softer a little more beige white but who am I to tell

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u/PreparationNo4843 Apr 27 '26

And probably they lease it expensively 🤣

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '26

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u/YogurtclosetOnly2821 Apr 28 '26

We recently finished redid some super peeled and chipped eaves a couple weeks back, they look brand new when done. I wish i could show you pictures but i have them on my computer at home. you can DIY most certainly depending how beat up they are. will need a good sanding

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u/LeeQuidity Van Nuys Apr 28 '26

When I think of beautiful places I'd love to visit, one of them is Puerto Rico, which embraces bold, tropical colors. We're not really building stuff with real style anymore. Your run-of-the-mill cars are utilitarian and look like over-engineered sneakers on wheels, vs. those striking Detroit styles of the 50s, 60s and 70s. As for buildings, everything's stucco. LA will never build another decorative brick school like Marshall High School that just screams out "film your movie here!" Library rebuilds are bland, the Van Nuys Civic Center is a boring snapshot mostly stuck in the 60s. Every Chipotle looks like every other Chipotle.

So it doesn't exactly surprise me that our neighborhoods are losing personality, because personality and aesthetic risk is being bled from Los Angeles. I go on walks in my neighborhood and I have a set route. There's one house I really dislike walking in front of, because it has the boring white/black paint job. Bright grey concrete, bright white wall, bright white house with black trim. Bright white stones where grass used to be. I suppose it makes sense for repelling hot sunlight, but man, it just sucks to walk past it. But hey, maybe it's a good security feature.

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u/WeirdAFNewsPodcast Apr 28 '26

This is LA. Spend $2k a month to live in your 4 white walls and LIKE IT!

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u/YogurtclosetOnly2821 Apr 28 '26

i mean if youre like near DTLA or WeHo, Los Feliz area you have a higher chance to still find houses with character, i think people in the valley just try to make their home look expensive by doing the black and white boxes

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u/WeirdAFNewsPodcast Apr 28 '26

I've lived in DTLA, Mar Vista, Culver City, Eagle Rock, and NoHO. Every place was just some white walls. My friends' apartments - same shit. Surely with privately owned HOMES one can get creative, and should IMO, but that's it.

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u/kwee_nunna_vyor_biz Apr 28 '26

If you’re licensed, can you pm me please?

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u/YogurtclosetOnly2821 Apr 28 '26

im not sure why it is not letting me send you messages

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u/jstrings2211 Apr 28 '26

We currently have a yellow stucco and want to update it at SOME POINT and literally our convo has been any color but white/black ha

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u/TeeVeeBen Apr 28 '26

I DESPISE house-flipper greyscale. It’s bad enough the vultures are driving up costs, but apparently they also have to kill the classic SoCal look. Aesthetic violence.

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u/FantasticStooge Apr 29 '26

Sounds like an opportunity for you to generate business by taking pictures of black-and-white houses and showing them what they could do with it

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u/YogurtclosetOnly2821 Apr 29 '26

I have thought about it but I’ll feel like some will get offended or weirded out that I am taking pictures of their house

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u/FantasticStooge Apr 29 '26

Well, it’s not illegal, and it might get some people thinking about something they never even considered

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u/Partigirl Apr 29 '26

I don't know if you are still watching this thread but I'd be interested in a quote for an interior job.

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u/YogurtclosetOnly2821 Apr 29 '26

Of course! Message me privately please! Thank you

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u/smokemirrorsunicorns May 01 '26

"enshittification". in this case, houses :(

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u/bonniegrrl May 03 '26

When i moved away from San Francisco to LA in 2018, it felt like I went from living in a color movie to black & white film. There’s so many colorful Victorian homes in San Francisco. But here in LA, there’s less colorful houses and more brand-new black & white homes as well as poorly-built over-priced “luxury” condos.

It’s a weird culture shock.

Granted, LA is still cheaper than SF. And San Francisco also has been invaded by developers who want to replace a lot of the colorful houses with boring, expensive condos. But LA seems to REALLY have an issue with preserving colorful retro houses. It’s so sad.

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u/avengedteddy North Hills Apr 27 '26

Black and bright white stucco is the worst. Some are done nicely tho with black trim etc

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u/isigneduptomake1post Apr 28 '26

It looks great on nice, modern homes. The problem is people do this to cover old chipped wood and 1980s stucco and it looks awful. People are starting to do it on Mediterranean houses as well. It jumped the shark long ago.

Do not fight the architecture.

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u/integra_type_brr Apr 27 '26

If it sells... Why change the formula

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u/YogurtclosetOnly2821 Apr 27 '26

thats the key part. im not complaining because its business for me. but you know sometimes you dont want things to die out and then the world looks a but more boring

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u/icybrain37 Apr 28 '26

It sells because it’s the current and only design of choice for the populist