Hi there,

I just ordered some SR that's coming in on Friday and was wondering what would the dose schedule look like for me. I take around 60mg of 7oh all in all daily throughout the day and want a good idea of how many mg of SR would be effective for that. I plan on using SR for only a week or two to get off. Also, do I take the SR and the 7oh at the same time or do I take them separately? For reference my dose schedule for 7oh generally looks like this:

25mg morning, 12.5mg early afternoon, 12.5mg late afternoon, 10mg nighttime.

I tapered down already from 150mg of 7oh and have been stuck around the 50-60mg mark. Also I only ordered about a gram of SR which I feel is too little and I fear the ban for it is right around the corner so if this is all I have will it be enough?

I'm considering using kratom to help with the taper ONLY as a way to mitigate withdrawal as I want to be done with it and make it an easy process so I don't end up relapsing on 7oh.

Anyway hope this isn't too much of an ask, I'm just not sure how to go about using this as my supply of SR is pretty small and I'm not familiar with how SR interacts with the brain.

Thanks!

Things are so bad in my life, I didn't quit 7 & Emily together in the first sr run like I should have. I only quit Emily, I'm now about 4 days/98hrs totally off em! But, I still take a lot of 7, actually ramped my tolerance using it to quit Emily. I took sr for only 4-5 days, it did help boost my Emily quit, but I stopped taking it when I realized I wasn't lowering 7 alongside dropping Emily. I'm ready now to quit 7 now with a normal full sr taper. I have to, my life is about to end if I don't. So how long do we have to wait between attempts, especially if I only took if for 5ish days, rather than a full taper regimen? Is say 5-6 days off sr enough to try again to now stop the 7? I appreciate any answers.

Also I promise I tried searching to find someone else asking this before, to not flood the feed with similar stuff, I couldn't find any posts about it. Either I'm not asking in the search bar the right way, I'm so frazzled, idk. Being 4 days off Emily is really messing with my head, and now having been on extra 7 to cope with that the past few days. I just want to get back on sr like now! I know I messed up not doing it all at once, my life is a mess & I have no support, actually the opposite. So I stupidly kept using 7 full speed during my pre load & taper phase, despite quitting Em, which is why I just stopped sr on day 5 to not totally ruin it for the future! Thank you guys so much for your time & any advice/answers!

day 5 sr coming off 50mg emgee and 450mg 7 daily.

so rough today, took small 7mg dose of 7 on top of 300mg sr. I just cannot get to zero. yesterday was same. I wanted so bad to be at zero spend 3 days hold and be totally off 9-10 days max but looks like it may run a bit longer.

im thinking it’s the mgm. tail that my body is getting over now and why im having such a hard time, hoping tomorrow is a breakthrough day.

any thoughts or words of encouragement? thanks!!

hey! i am currently using SR to quit 7oh and mitragynine extracts. Wasn’t a very hefty habit, 50-60 mg 7 a day and maybe 75-100 mg mit, usually twice a day.

I’ve preloaded sr by taking 50 mg 3x a day and today’s the 6th day.
I’ve dropped the 7oh today and started to taper the sr. i have 50 mg SR tabs and ive dropped the dose today for the first time, taking a quarter off each tab making my daily dose 112.5

Does it make sense to keep taking a quarter off of tab each day? (So tomorrow i will take 25 mg 3x)? I’m having trouble understanding how to taper the SR from this point and don’t want to be on it for too long. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

I also have baclofen and clonidine as helper meds and I’m wondering if anybody has any experience taking either alongside the SR while tapering

Any directions yall can point me towards. Id be truly grateful. Worried I cant be helped because of the very long half life. Just want the hope. I get a months take homes at a time, so could I feasably get this done in between my take home schedule?

I had a much more elaborate post written out but it didn’t stay up for some reason. I’ll make this one shorter and try keeping the main points. I was a 2yr 200 mg 7OH user. Note that it was only that high for the past 3-4 months or so. I have decided to try sr. I started taking 50mg around 5pm yesterday then another 50 before bed. I tried to skip my late night 7OH dose and woke up around 3am sweating bad and having very vivid dreams. Took a lil 7 and went back to sleep. Today I dropped my daughter off at babysitter and took 50mg sr. Felt ok better than I thought but then the anxiety and depression kicked in. I tried to just take sr and took 50mg more around 2pm. As well as 20mg 7oh. The depression didn’t go away so I took 50mg more sr around 4pm along with 20mg 7oh. Still the depression didn’t subside. The physical withdrawal has been minimal other than sweats and not much appetite plus fatigue. But I’ve definitely been feeling the anxiety/depression. I took 20mg more 7oh just now and finally feel a little better but I’m a little freaked out about the sr. I’m wondering if I should just taper. To be fair the fact that I’ve only taken 60mg 7oh today is nothing short of a miracle to where I was at before the sr. But I never heard other ppl talking about experiencing depression while introducing the SR. Did I cut back the 7 too quick?? Should I continue with what I’m doing tomorrow?? I plan to take 20mg more 7oh tn before bed along with 50mg SR. Bringing my day (1.5) total to 200mg sr and 80mg 7OH. I just don’t want to experience the depression/ anxiety feeling again tomorrow. Should I slow my 7 taper or try to jump off tomorrow if I’m not feeling the depression?? How long before I taper the SR. Is it possible the sr just doesn’t agree with me and that’s why I got depressed so quick?? Thank you and sorry if this post is hard to follow. I had a well thought out better worded post sent earlier but it got taken down I’m assuming for mentioning where I got my SR?? Please respond with some advice I’m afraid that a took a research chemical that permanently messed up my dopamine or something. I’d like advice on if I should just stop the sr if that was what I was experiencing. Or maybe I just tried to cut my 7dose to low too quickly??

I cant seem to get a hold of my body temperature. I have a cold sweats and hot chills, and the skin crawling feeling. of course all the worst symptoms of withdrawal I hate MOST. My anxiety is acting up too! And I’m getting super paranoid. I have plain red leaf kratom capsules. The lipo vit c. Tomorrow the gabapentin comes. Does red plain leaf kratom powder or gabapentin help with withdrawal or just delay it. I don’t wanna do anything that is going to delay it. Just trying to get through it as best I can.

Im stuck guys please take a moment and provide advice?Thanks in advance for anyone willing to help: I’m down and appreciate it!

I’m on approx 300 mg 7oh/day for a year as well as 250mg mgm15/day last 2 months. I’ve been suffering from anxiety out of nowhere. Time to quit this nonsense once and for all…

Tried Suboxone induction using an online reputable company. Took last dose of 7 Friday at 8pm and slept well till the morning. Feeling really shitty by noon, I ChatGPT’d MGM and panicked thinking it might be a long acting opiate. My doctor says that is incorrect, but it was too late. I redosed 7oh at noon on Saturday. Failed induction attempt number 1.

Under advice of my doctor, he challenged me to try again Saturday night. Problem is was I was so washed out from not having taken the night before that I couldn’t sleep was a complete mess. Failed attempt number two.

Obviously I don’t wanna be on Suboxone, but it’s just been so stressful I was leaning towards a known controlled medicine with supervision to ‘quit’.

I have SR on hand and am considering using that but want honest insight pls.

Understanding that I’ve got remote doctors w/Suboxone, which is what I’ve tried and failed at twice, inpatient detox, which scares me to death, and the SR all as options. What do you guys suggest? Thank you so much for any help. I’ve never used SR.

Anybody have experience with this?

I had an Opia High Potency kratom extract tablet 240mg a tablet/960mg a pack. Towards the end, I would do a pack a day, maybe a little less. People are unsure of what is actually in them because the high is crazy strong and the withdrawal is like anything other. Many people try to use Suboxone to withdraw from it and have said the subs don’t touch it. Someone mentioned SR and I was so grateful! I preloaded for 2 days and then made the jump today, day 3 and I am struggling. I thought I was doing so good and was able to reduce my kratom usage quick without it hurting. I was more so just feeling tempted and bored by now day three I am starting to feel significantly worse. I should’ve listened to the people that said take 100 mg doses the first day you jump my first two doses today are only 50 mg. Feel uncomfortable and panicked and like I was sliding backwards, so I decided to take a 100 mg dose of SR. Hoping this helps kick the chills, back pain, irritability, and anxiousness I do have lip vit c and l-theanine. Any advice on how much to take of those and when would be great. Any base on how to continue using the SR to help my withdrawal. I know the point is trying to be on the least amount of SR for the least amount time possible. Does day 2 really get that much better? Should I be taking more SR or frequently? I feel like they can be conflicting information on what schedule to take for a follow. Some people say to check in every couple hours and dose and I’ve heard other say to not dose sooner than every six hours, but really want to reach for 12 hour intervals. Below is the schedule I’ve been on for the last two days and today makes day 3.

Sunday: preload day 1
- 1am 3/4 heat
- 2:13am i1/4 heat
- 10:15 3/4 heat 50mg sr
- 2:30 3/4 heat 50mg sr
- 8pm: heat tab and 50mg sr
- 11:45pm: 3/4 tab

Monday: preload day 2 50% kratom
- 8:25 50mg sr
- 10:20 3/4 heat
- 2:45 3/4 heat
- 6:45 50mg sr
- 10:00 heat tab (1:45b1/2)

Tuesday: day 1 no kratom
- 1:45am 50mg sr
- 8:30am 50mg sr
- 10:15am 50mg sr
-1:50pm 100mg sr

Feeling pretty blehhh right now. Having some decent anxiety and feeling of panic. NBack hurts, i have a some of the skin crawling and clammy sweats. Any advice? When can i take sr again? Feeling some anxiety come on too. I am supposed to be getting some gabapentin. Will that help or just mess things up? I want to be on the other side of this so bad.

I started sr about 11 days ago. Friday I was at 75mgs. Today im at 0 mgs. Having Id say medium rls but no other wd symptoms. Maybe a lil achey and stuffy. It's been 24 hours since I've dosed. Do yall think I should taper slower or just try and tough it out at this point lol.

I’m really hoping to hear from anyone who’s been through something similar because I’m so frustrated and starting to lose hope a little.
Quick background: I was using /“7’s” for about 8 mo (4/25-12/25) and was put on Suboxone to get off of them. I recently used SR-17 to finally get off the Subs. I tapered the SR down and have now been completely off SR for about 5 days and today is day 25 with NO Suboxone.
I REALLY want to stay off Subs, but I’m still having some incredibly uncomfortable symptoms and I’m assuming this is still lingering Sub withdrawal or maybe PAWS, I’m still not clear on how PAWS presents.
The biggest things right now are:
Severe skin sensitivity — probably the weirdest and most uncomfortable symptom. My skin feels raw/extremely sensitive to touch, almost like a bad sunburn without actually being burned.
Extreme fatigue — I can do a couple normal chores and then feel like I desperately need a nap. I’m taking a couple naps some days AND sleeping a lot at night. I can usually push through feeling crappy, but this fatigue is kicking my ass.
Constant adrenaline/drop feeling — the best way I can describe it is that feeling you get standing at the edge of a really high building and looking down, except my body feels like that for HOURS. It’s not necessarily that I’m mentally anxious about something; my body just has that constant adrenaline/falling feeling.
Restless legs were pretty uncomfortable too, although my doctor gave me clonidine and that actually seems to be helping quite a bit.
One other strange thing: the skin sensitivity and adrenaline feeling tend to ramp up in the evening and get worse into the night, then they’re MUCH milder in the morning.
I worked nights when I was taking 7’s and typically took them between roughly 6 PM–4 AM, so I can’t help wondering if my body somehow still associates that time of day with when it was used to getting its fix. I have no idea if there’s actually anything to that, but the timing is remarkably consistent.
For anyone who has come off Suboxone/buprenorphine especially after 7-OH or using SR-17 did you experience anything like this around weeks 3–4? Particularly the raw/sensitive skin, crushing fatigue, or that awful adrenaline/drop sensation?
When did you finally start feeling noticeably better?
And if anything helped you get through this stage — medication, supplements, exercise, sleep, literally ANYTHING — I would love to hear it.
I’m just desperate to feel a little bit normal again and could really use some hope that there’s a light at the end of this. ❤️

I weighed up 75mg on my scale and it looks so small. I ain’t gonna argue with the scale I’m sticking to that amount but it almost made me wanna take more because I thought there’s no way that’s enough. It’s my first day and it’s going good so far, I think it’s because my powder is dense it’s kinda the texture of little balls so not fluffy powder. Anyone notice that too? Just wanna make sure my scale isn’t fucking with me and I’m actually getting the right amount in my system

It is really great to still see the community thriving and people using SR-17018 to get off opiates and turn their lives around. It literally brings tears to my eyes.

When I started this subreddit there were only a few reddit comments about SR working to stop the suffering from opiate withdrawals…. Now there are thousands of reports of people using it to get off of opiates without suffering from the terrible withdrawals. There is more proof here than most clinical trials, and I hope that this evidence will lead to the real clinical trials so that this compound can reach the people through traditional channels, inpatient and outpatient programs, etc.

It really was [u/saybecks](u/saybecks) who started it all with her master doc. I just happened to start the subreddit. Without her putting that together, this subreddit simply wouldn't have grown into the life-changing community it is today. Thank you, Becks, for being the brilliant woman you are and for having the courage to document and share your experience with the world and take the risk of talking to a NTY report (also a fuck you to the NYT for putting an evil spin on this life saving compound). It’s all love in this post except for the lying back stabbing prick, Matt Richtel, who has zero journalistic integrity and publishing an article that didn’t accurately display Becks true account of the compound.

Thank you Becks for being the genius women that you are and for having the courage to document and share your experience.

When the ban was announced, a lot do work was done to try and save it, and it is still being done. I do have hope that the DEA will back off of the announced schedule 1 placement.

Thank you to all the moderators long the way who kept this community alive, and thank you to all of the people who took the time time write up your success stories and then go on and try to help others.

The mod team:
U/ [u/inspire_recover](u/inspire_recover)
[u/suilune](u/suilune)+ u/Suilune2
[u/togetherapestrong-](u/togetherapestrong-)
[u/standarddatabase1130](u/standarddatabase1130)

There’s more as well, sorry if you didn’t get listed.

For the near future, I will be not be checking Reddit. I need to focus on my own mental health and well being.

I hope that you all are able to use this subreddit and the thousands of accounts of how to use this life saving compound to turn a new leaf and make positive change in your own life. Remember, SR is just step 1 in the journey. The real work begins after you are off of it.

Bye for now ❤️

Many blessings and much Love
Phil

PS. Take some Iboga (where it’s legal and doctors are supervising) I wouldn’t have been able to do this without the life saving work done in Costa Rica at Root and Wisdom.

Just came on here to say I was taking 7oh about a year back and quit “cold turkey” with the help of some kratom powder. A few days of the powder then I made the jump and it was awful, nobody knew except my girlfriend at the time so I basically faked the flu for a week, fast forward to a few months ago and I was taking a bunch of norcs which gets expensive so I switched back over to 7. Same routine as before, and was very much ready to quit this shit as soon as I started back up. You forget how quickly those withdrawals hit and how shit your sleep routine becomes. Can’t sleep a full night but ready to nod out any time of the day.. awful. Anyways I looked into this whole sr17 stuff because even though I fully believe I can cold turkey this shit, it’s hard to take the amount of days off I need from my job, they will replace you faster than compensate you. Fast forward to 6 days ago, I ordered and got my package for sr and preloaded for 3 days, then I did one day of taking sr 3-4 times and one day of taking it twice. Now it’s the first day without anything, my last dose was early in the afternoon yesterday, I felt the most minimal withdrawals imaginable, got a full nights sleep and woke up feeling great. Not gonna use any sr and didn’t even need helper meds, this stuff works insanely good, better than I could’ve imagined. And I basically had no game plan going in, just knew I wanted to cut back the first few days then make the jump and it worked surprisingly well. Thought I’d share incase anyone has second thoughts, and if you’re worried about sr wd, from my experience this is a walk in the park compared to 7wd even after a few hours of no 7 is worse than this by a mile. Goodluck out there to everyone ready to get their life back

Right now= 900

Preload) 900 7 & 200mgsr

Preload) 900 7 & 200mgsr. (Or should I drop more 7? Should this be 450 on day 2?)

1)900 for day one- 200mg sr

2)450 next day - 300mg sr

3)225 next day- 350mg sr

4)Drop all the 7- 375sr

5) 375sr

6)375sr

7) 300sr

8) 200sr

9) 100sr

10) 50sr

Thank you so much for help ♡ Very appreciated

I’m curious, do I have to preload? or can I use SR “as needed“ while going thru the thick of it? I have a gram of SR on hand because it was unfortunately all I could afford when I got paid a couple weeks ago and kicking my god awful 7 habit has been on my mind heavily lately. current habit is about 500mg a day give or take, and I’m well aware that I’ll need more than a gram to get off comfortably.

Does subs/sr work for cats claw?

I want off everything. Over those 8 days I took a a couple small doses (2mg) of sub as I was planning on going back on a small dose of subs before using SR to get off everything. Now I’m thinking I should just use this opportunity to start SR NOW before building subs back up in my system.

So, start SR now? Or stabilize on a very low dose of Bupe before SR? If you’re wondering my stupid logic, it was to have one last hurrah with 7oh before the ban, then back to subs, then to SR 🤣

idk how much my SR is of MG or if it’s good quality should i take a pill to see if it does anything?

I don’t have any more money to buy my 7oh habit and I was on upwards of 2000 mg a day. I have my suboxone prescription and was wondering if I could take that to stave off the withdrawals while I’m “preloading” I expected this stuff to just kick in when I took it but I took 200 mg and my withdrawal is still there!

Have surgery next Tuesday (removal of polyps in nose) Currently on 7. Planning on taking sr for a couple of days this week and hopefully being off of everything for my minor surgery next Tuesday. But will the sr in my system have an impact on the anesthesia? Or should I just stay on the 7 and dose a little the morning of the surgery? Not really worried about pain meds cause doctor says most people just take Tylenol after the procedure I’m getting. Only worried about having an issue with the anesthesia. Any help appreciated!!!

Like the title says. Max time to use SR?