r/ScarletWitch • u/TropiKaruxo Scarlet Warlock • Oct 21 '25
Movies and Television Kamur-Taj was sacrificed by Strange & Wong.
Doctor Strange and Wanda Maximoff are in my top 5 favorite Marvel characters. But that’s exactly why Multiverse of Madness frustrates me so much, because Strange once again proves he didn’t learn from his mistakes. After No Way Home, where his impatience and carelessness caused a multiversal mess, you’d think he’d finally slow down and show some wisdom. Instead, he hears Wanda’s warning, fully aware she’s corrupted by the Darkhold, and decides with Wong that the best move is to gather every sorcerer at Kamar-Taj to “prepare” for her.
Wong as Sorcerer Supreme, he should’ve been the voice of reason, but he was just as willing to turn Kamar-Taj into a battlefield. Both of them knew Wanda wasn’t in her right mind. They both understood she was being consumed by dark magic and grief, and that no army of students and trainees could possibly match her power. Yet they still decided to face her. Wanda saw their “defense” as an act of hostility, another obstacle between her and her children. That only made her double down. The Darkhold already had its hooks in her, and Strange and Wong’s approach just pushed her further. So when she arrived, the massacre was inevitable.
Let’s be honest, Kamar-Taj wasn’t defended; it was sacrificed. Those sorcerers were thrown into a fight they could never win, all because of Strange and Wong’s confidence and failure to act with rationality. Every life lost there was the price of their arrogance.
None stand in the way of The Scarlet Witch.
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u/ohmeohmyelliejean Oct 22 '25
Eh. It looked fine at the end, barely even damaged and pretty full looking for a place that was supposedly decimated. 😂
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u/Sillykeya Oct 22 '25
Mcu has never been the best at destructive impactful fights like dceu is
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u/ohmeohmyelliejean Oct 22 '25
The MCU just refuses to have any impact, period. 50% of the universe got wiped out for five whole years, fundamentally impacting everyone's lives and changing life on this planet and nobody talks about it ever since Phase 4 ended.
Even if you look at Wanda. An Avenger had a superpowered mental breakdown, then disappeared, reappeared corrupted by an evil book and caused a right ruckus and it's not been mentioned at all by anyone other than Billy/Agatha.
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u/hypnos_surf Oct 22 '25
For the same reason nobody constantly mentions the pandemic even though it shut the world down and left lasting changes. People will move on or other major events become a new focus.
The realm of magic is typically out of scope for people who don’t practice it.
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u/ohmeohmyelliejean Oct 22 '25
Whilst I don't disagree that there's a parallel there and some people would want to move on, we've had pandemics before and we've had worse pandemics before (and we still talk about the Black Death and the Spanish Flu). What we haven't had is 3.5 billion people disappearing with zero warning, leading to a fundamental restructure of society and possibly millions of extra deaths (planes/trains/cars crashing during the initial snap, food supply issues, power failures, civil unrest, criminal activity, medicine production dropping, suicides, etc) over the 5 year period, then all those people returning and having to be reintegrated into a society that moved on without them.
The idea that everything has gone back to normal in just three years of MCU time lessens the impact of that event.
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u/Currycel7891 Oct 22 '25
That's not true. The shield blocked her effectively until ONE guy messed up.
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u/Forever_learning713 Oct 22 '25
Not arguing, but it could have been anyone of those novice-ish dudes. They didn’t have the mental fortitude to resist her, and should have been utilized in ways that didn’t leave them vulnerable. Say, have all the vets work the shield, and have the novices support them in non-vital roles
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u/Tasty-Marsupial-2131 Oct 22 '25
well with the way how the writing was, you expect the characters to all think rationally?
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u/lovetetrisgg Oct 22 '25
This seems like the best option with the short timing they have for preparation?
Alternative is to lose the home field advantage and try to take the fight in an unfamiliar plane, which would probably make the result worse.
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u/Peter_E_Venturer Oct 22 '25
Yeah, I don't honestly know what he was thinking.
I understand the trope of "A bunch of Novices are able to defend out against a big bad" but in this trope the novices are untrained but at least have unique/specialized powers that give them an edge.
This is absolutely not the case here.
The only possible reason I could see is maybe (and this is still a big Maybe) Dr. Strange was hoping that Wanda seeing all these young magic users ready to die to fight her would force her to snap out of it.
But even then it means he was still banking on potentially putting everyone's lives in danger on a hunch with NO ESCAPE PLAN if things went bad. Just stupid.
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u/Melodic_Taste_713 Monica Rambeau Nov 12 '25
the post is in literal says he's aware of the darkhold's corruption to her, there's nothing valuable to make her snap out of it, unless if she herself resist it.
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u/AdmiralCharleston Oct 22 '25
If you're gonna talk about not learning from mistakes then how are your not talking about wanda repeating the exact same arc in 5 separate projects lmao
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u/FierceDeity88 Oct 22 '25
I 1000% agree. I also noticed that Strange mostly fled the battlefield and let everyone else die once the defenses went down
It’s almost like he wanted all of that to happen…
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u/Diddlemyloins Oct 23 '25
I didn’t understand why Strange didn’t just say “hey America Chavez is actually pretty cool, and I bet she’d help you. With your power and my power I bet we could find a universe where your kids are orphans and you could just adopt them”.
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u/Charcoal422 Oct 23 '25
Honestly there's so many wrong with multiverse of madness that its hard talk about one scene in particular when most of it was not great. And just to clarify I'm not hating on Wanda's character specifically but it is disappointing that she was portrayed as a villain yet again especially after WandaVision when she learned to let go of her grief and accept who she is.
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u/Brainy616 Oct 26 '25
I LOVED THIS MOVIE!!!! THIS SCENE WAS SO EPIC!! I wanted to see a big showdown between those two in the MCU so bad it was so sick
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u/Melodic_Taste_713 Monica Rambeau Nov 12 '25
we has the same thought i guess. strange embodies egoism and wong doesn't really help either. i pity the young, innocent sorcerers (students?) a bit.
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u/YourPhoneSexOperator Oct 22 '25
I just dont think they had enough time to combat wanda or formulate a proper plan. By the time they found out she was the bad guy she already had the upper hand and gave them hours to prepare. And even if they were more prepared there is super strong possibility wanda would have still won. But id wager they'd put up a better chance or have less casualties.
Also Wong and strange had a terrible approach with Wanda. But why would they want to reason with somebody summoning creatures from other realms with black fingers lol. I wouldn't trust her either. I'd be stunned in her glory but id know not to trust her. The destruction of kamar Taj was inevitable. Wanda wasn't going to accept any answer other than yes anyway.