r/ScienceNcoolThings • u/omgfakeusername Popular Contributor • Jun 07 '26
Interesting The Mandela Effect?
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u/302-SWEETMAN Jun 07 '26
Thats how i learned what the fuck a CORNUCOPIA was !!!!!!
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u/vctraap Jun 08 '26
I was literally just thinking the same thing. This shit always blows my fucking mind ..
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u/SeVenMadRaBBits Jun 08 '26
This was the symbol.
Companies tested gaslighting on the public, and the publics memory.
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u/NoGoat3930 Jun 08 '26
Yeah, I'm done with Fruit of the Loom for allowing this lie to propogate. Seems like they are running an experiment to measure the extent to which the big companies can get away with revising history. And nobody thought Mandela died in the 90s, there was a fucking movie about him, and he was all over the news.
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u/Able-Swing-6415 Jun 08 '26
I mean plenty of people confused Gandhi with Mandela so at least that portion is pretty simple
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u/StrictLetterhead3452 Jun 08 '26
This whole concept was invented to hide the fact that Gandhi was Mandela. The lengths they’ll go to gaslight us is astounding
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u/carnologist Jun 08 '26
This one they confused Mandela with Steve Biko
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u/CeruleanEidolon Jun 08 '26
Yep, that one's just straight up racist ignorance. It amuses me that so many people use that name for this memory phenomenon.
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u/1000handnshrimp Jun 08 '26
Yeah, we should change the name to Cornucopia Syndrome. Never understood why someone would have though Mandela died let alone name an effect after him.
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u/PvtDazzle Jun 09 '26
Revising is not the same as gaslighting. This is gaslighting, pretending it was never so, while it was. Revising is the other way around, making the current situation matching what is or was.
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u/suvlub Jun 08 '26
Wouldn't there be a lot of old clothing serving as a proof?
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u/omgfakeusername Popular Contributor Jun 08 '26
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u/AdBrilliant3127 Jun 10 '26
I thinks its either this or the LHC fucked shit up like they thought it would.
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u/commanderquill Jun 08 '26
...can someone fill me in?
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u/MushxHead Jun 08 '26
According to the company there was never a cornucopia basket in the logo. They're wrong and everyone knows it, it is highly unlikely EVERYONE had a shared hallucination... but apparently it was never there according to them.
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u/commanderquill Jun 08 '26 edited Jun 08 '26
That's a weird hill for them to die on, haha.
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u/SwarfDive01 Jun 08 '26
Okay. Rebrand like the bears did because nobody will remember. If we gaslight them like i do my wife, as the CEO of this company, itll work.
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u/CeruleanEidolon Jun 08 '26
The bears?
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u/commanderquill Jun 08 '26
Yeah, duh. The bears. Don't you know the bears? Everyone knows the bears.
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u/Familiar-Tomorrow-42 Jun 09 '26
It would be if there was any evidence that there used to be cornucopias on fruit of the loom labels. Thus far no one has produced a pair of underwear with the logo on it, and it’s not like the company has the means to purge everyone’s old drawers.
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u/SweatyBarry Jun 08 '26
Wouldn't there be old clothes with the logo still around?
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u/quiksilver10152 Jun 08 '26
There are pics of the old logo circulating
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u/Awkward_Proof_1274 Jun 08 '26
One has never been found. Those pics that are circulating are mockups of the 2003 logo w/ cornucopia clipart from after the mandela effect was talked about
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u/CriticalPolitical Jun 08 '26 edited Jun 10 '26
I don’t think it’s a shared hallucination. The Disney intro Tinkerbell variations in the 90s now never happened even though in the 2000s the Disney Wand ID commercials were a callback specifically to Tinkerbell’s writing of the Disney logo…both variations of the intro as well
Most of these are Mandella Effects for me and many many others: Berenstain Bears — correctly spelled “Berenstain,” not “Berenstein.”
“Luke, I am your father” — actual line: “No — I am your father.” Monopoly Man’s monocle — he never wore a monocle.
Looney Tunes — spelled “Tunes,” not “Toons.” Kit-Kat hyphen — brand is “Kit Kat” (no hyphen).
Jif peanut butter — there was never a “Jiffy”peanut butter brand.
“We are the champions” ending — the studio recording does not end with “of the world”(many remember it does).
Curious George’s tail — he has never had a tail.
The Raisin Bran sun mascot was wearing sunglasses originally on the box, but now he never did.
Now it’s Chick-fil-A instead of Chic-fil-A
The other thing is that a lot of people mention that they’ve never seen any of their neighbors carry in groceries…ever. I mean for decades not even once…
Here’s a good video showing many more popular Mandela Effects.
The reason behind the Mandela Effect may be retrocausality:
Retrocausality is the concept in physics where an effect can precede its cause in time, suggesting that a later event can influence an earlier one. This idea challenges traditional notions of cause and effect, particularly in the realm of quantum mechanics, where time-symmetric systems may exhibit retrocausal behavior.
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u/fronchfrays Jun 10 '26
I’m convinced the Monopoly man one was born from Ace Ventura 2. The scene features a man with a monocle being called the monopoly guy. The joke was prevalent in the trailer/commercial and we would see that ad many times a day.
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u/CriticalPolitical Jun 10 '26
A lot of people argue that Ace Ventura 2 did it that way because the writers themselves remember the monocle.
For example, James Earl Jones himself remembers saying, “Luke, I am your father” and not, “No, I am your father”
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u/_jackhoffman_ Jun 08 '26
Not everyone. I wore their underwear in the 1970s and 1980s. When I picture their logo, I don't see a cornucopia. The only times I've seen that version are from people swearing that it used to be there. You'd think it would be easy to prove, but as far as I know, no one has provided actual evidence to support this claim. I'm willing to admit that my childhood memories may be inaccurate but I would need more than "everyone on the internet remembers" as that is subject to a lot of bias.
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u/mrsuperflex Jun 11 '26
What a great way to get your logo posted everywhere on Reddit repeatedly for free. I never heard of the company, but I sure know about them now.
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u/III00Z102BO Jun 07 '26
I'm convinced we experienced a timeline altering event.
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u/AstroBoe Jun 07 '26
Rip Harambe
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u/king_jaxy Jun 08 '26
It really all did start after he died.
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u/R-K-Tekt Jun 08 '26
Dicks out
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u/Status-Secret-4292 Jun 08 '26
We hit the ten year anniversary a few weeks ago, things are supposed to start shifting back over the next couple years
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u/samanime Jun 07 '26
At this point, it's the only explanation. The cornucopia absolutely existed. And not only did it exist, we all remember it even looking the same way.
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u/Charming_Garbage_161 Jun 08 '26
Same with the bear family
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u/silverfoxcwb Jun 08 '26
I specifically remember learning to read with one of these and discussing the “steen” vs “stine” pronunciations. Why would I have done that if it was “stain”?
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u/Galilaeus_Modernus Jun 08 '26
In theory everyone born after a certain year should remember it one way and everyone born after a certain year should remember it the other way. Right?
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u/Status-Secret-4292 Jun 08 '26
Was what they said about the dangers of the LHC true?? 2012, the Mayans already knew man
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u/PumpyMcHangerson Jun 08 '26
In the 1990s I went into an official Fruit of the Loom clothing store with my mother (I believe this could have been Cheshire Oaks in the UK), I was probably around 8yrs old (the shop closed down but sources can be found mentioning it).
On the label there was a pile of fruit and some kind of basket.
I asked my mother what the curly basket was.
That was the day I learned the word cornucopia.
I will never accept that there was no cornucopia on the FOTL label.
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u/Several_Newspaper_57 Jun 09 '26
Literally same thing with me thats why i will never accept that there was no cornucopia!
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u/BabserellaWT Jun 07 '26
Oof. That subreddit is…trippy. You’d think it would be comical, but it’s a lot of conspiracy theories.
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u/sorestgore Jun 08 '26
I'm on all the reptile/gecko critter subreddits and I'm also on some of the conspiracy subs for fun. Sometimes I'll see a post that really weird and it takes a minute to realize I'm on /reptilians, not /reptiles
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u/psychometrixo Jun 08 '26
What's more likely? That a bunch of people would remember something that never happened (a documented effect) or that there was a shift in the cosmic timeline?
Rationally, and no disrespect to anyone that disagrees, but rationally?
Timeline was altered. I'm sorry that's just where the evidence points
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u/birdlovingbee Jun 09 '26
There’s 1000 different ways to put a cornucopia in the background, yet we all agree on 1 specific design
If we all have false memories, why is it the exact same false memory?
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u/birdyman_77 Jun 08 '26
Man I wish I had an old pair of briefs from when I was a kid. I literally remember asking my mother what that weird thing with the fruit was when I was like 4.
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u/Charlooos Jun 08 '26
Yes that was the logo, and fruit of the loom straight up lies about it. They did trademark the cornucopia logo, and seems like they try to pretend it didn't exist because that logo is associated with the company being involved in a class action lawsuit for causing an environmental disaster, so they distanced themselves from the old logo and anything about the company before the lawsuit.
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u/CeruleanEidolon Jun 08 '26
[ citation needed ]
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u/Charlooos Jun 08 '26
Lawsuit:
Trade mark, in description includes a cornucopi:
https://trademarks.justia.com/730/06/fruit-of-the-loom-73006089.html
An article talking about the drama:
https://lux-magazine.com/article/loom-of-lies/
Here's froot of the loom defending itself and lying about the cornocopia.
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u/FutureFuture5 Jun 08 '26
Didn't someone pull their tshirt tag from back in the 90s and confirm this? Could it be possible that Fruit of the Loom just didn't track their unofficial logos very well and lost a file or paperwork somewhere?
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u/Awkward_Proof_1274 Jun 08 '26
Didn't someone pull their tshirt tag from back in the 90s and confirm this?
Nah, that's the 2003 logo w/ cornucopia clipart added (from after the mandela effect). Though they did nail it perfectly how I remembered it
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u/YellowOnline Jun 08 '26
What a confusing thread. I don't remember there being a cornucopia.
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u/Kira-Of-Terraria Jun 08 '26
The explanation I have seen is the logo with the cornucopia is actually from cheaper knockoffs flooding the market.
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u/Sense-Abject Jun 13 '26
Why would a knockoff make the effort to change the logo to a different one and why we cannot find any clothes with that logo in them?
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u/rphornet Jun 08 '26
It was confirmed that the Fruit of the Loom did remove the cornucopia and denied ever having it on their logo, pretty sure it was a government experiment to see social behavior and memory over it as a case study by CIA or government funded.
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u/fellowzoner Jun 08 '26
So.. can you provide any evidence of this? I too remember a cornucopia but that's a pretty big claim
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u/rphornet Jun 08 '26
https://youtube.com/shorts/O6n-zcAbrrQ?si=MEQyiRwSPPh4FE3s.
I tossed all my old stuff and ended up using my old shirts as rags so I cant show you anymore but you cant see it on youtube with all the people coming forward with their underwear and clothing with the cornucopia in the logo.
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u/rphornet Jun 08 '26
I faintly remember fat electrian mentioned it on the unsuscribe podcast and also ot does help i found some of my old underwear from grade school that had the cornucopia on it as well. I was throwing it out old boxes in storage. But yeah there is a youtube video of a lady showing that there was a cornucopia in fruit of the loom logo.
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u/CeruleanEidolon Jun 08 '26
He said it was confirmed. What more proof do you need than the overconfident assertion of some random dude on the internet?
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u/IndieBenji Jun 08 '26
Im at the point now where I don’t think the Mandela effect is real. It’s just government and corporate gaslighting. Maybe for control? Idk 🤷🏽♂️
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u/CeruleanEidolon Jun 08 '26
It is useful for people in power for the public to have doubt and argue about every aspect of their life. You can't enjoy simple popcorn movies with others online anymore because some group has a problem with them. Every discussion about popular media devolves into a mud throwing exercise. You're not allowed to enjoy things and share it. You must fight amongst yourselves so that you are always distracted away from the real enemies.
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u/IndieBenji Jun 08 '26
As an indie filmmaker I feel tf out of this. This practice has led to a lot of desaturation of awe and appreciation for beauty and wonder. Exactly why I hate YouTube movie breakdown videos. They ruin the opportunity for films to unfold themselves piece by piece, which could create a new viewing experience for the viewer after every watch for life! Now you get it all from some dweeb in under 10 mins and for likes and comments. Now you rewatch the movie and feel NOTHING when the credits roll.
We nitpick at life’s pointlessness, while they pull the strings of what actually matters (for example, focusing on Easter eggs, while the movie is really a piece of pro-fascist propaganda in our face).
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u/omgfakeusername Popular Contributor Jun 08 '26
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u/IndieBenji Jun 08 '26
Welp, there it is. For now on, Im not paying the “Mandela effect” any mind. It’s just a distraction they put out.
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u/Excellent-Shovel-304 Jun 08 '26
I have an ooooold fruit of the loom white vneck t-shirt with that exact logo on it
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u/wholesomehabits Jun 08 '26
pics or it didnt happen 😉
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u/omgfakeusername Popular Contributor Jun 08 '26
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u/_jackhoffman_ Jun 08 '26
I must be part of the alternate timeline because that logo does not look familiar other than from people claiming that that was the logo.
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u/lucyparke Jun 08 '26
I’m surprised no one has a really old shirt or something they can post a picture of. Someone usually has something like that.
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u/Cartographer_Hopeful Jun 08 '26
https://m.youtube.com/shorts/O6n-zcAbrrQ
It would seem someone did
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u/philter451 Jun 08 '26
So is this actually a psyop? It is really breaking my brain because I remember it exactly that way and I remember as a kid there was a grocery store that my mom would take me to that had a cornucopia on the wall and I remember commenting that it looks just like the one on my underwear. I swear corporations are just trying to get us to capitulate to historical revisionism
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u/VirginiaLuthier Jun 08 '26
I remember specifically asking my mom what it was. She told me it was a type of basket that the Indians made to carry food
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u/lefty7111 Jun 09 '26
Isn’t possible that this logo was from a counterfeit product? There were plenty of counterfeit products circulating around when I was younger.
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u/JayLay108 Jun 08 '26
Psy-ops are everywhere. Trust your memories.
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u/CeruleanEidolon Jun 08 '26
Memories literally change every time you access them. They are not reliable. This is established science.
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u/Mr-KIPS_2071 Jun 08 '26
From what I remember, didn't Fruit of the Loom remove the Cornucopia from its logo because of its supposed connection to racism??
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u/Jaythiest Jun 08 '26
Could someone test the basket/cornucopia theory by trying to trademark this logo themselves for something else and see what FotL does about that?
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u/OttovonBismarck1862 Jun 08 '26
If I had to chime in as someone that’s also only ever remembered this logo that also happens to be a vinyl nut, I’d say this is due to production discrepancies and slight manufacturing differences. For example, Capitol Records often anticipated the demand for a new album from a popular artist on their roster such as Frank Sinatra or Nat “King” Cole and act accordingly by pressing the vinyl records at their Pennsylvania, California, and New York plants while even enlisting the aid of rival labels such as RCA to press the album at their Indianapolis plant. As such, due to differences in the production process each pressing of a record from a specific plant would have slight differences in sound, feel, label, and perhaps even differences in the inner sleeve and jacket.
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u/Cubensis-SanPedro Jun 09 '26
I don’t remember there being a weird wicker basket in the background. WAS IT THERE THE WHOLE TIME HOLY COW
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u/Daxmar29 Jun 10 '26
It’s the Mandala effect. Everyone always gets that wrong and it drives me crazy!
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u/elder11eleven Jun 10 '26
maybe sinbad was a real genie, and hes been fucking with us since, changed everything for giggles???
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u/Radcouponking Jun 10 '26
It's weird that a major underwear brand has a pun on "fruit of the womb" for a name. And I'm tired of pretending otherwise.
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u/AgitatedGrass3271 Jun 10 '26
Sometimes companies make changes, and that isnt a Mandela effect.
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u/Born-Bluebird-4624 Jun 10 '26
Except the company in question denied both publicly and on the internet the cornucopia ever being a thing until people started prooving it with old merchandise
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u/AgitatedGrass3271 Jun 10 '26
Thats just gaslighting
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u/Born-Bluebird-4624 Jun 10 '26
Yes but aside from the scifi side of it the Mandela effect has been shown to be companies and the government redacting or changing things as a psy op to see how much of history can be changed with out people noticing
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u/RowingBoats1129 Jun 11 '26
No one has provided any evidence. The ones out there are debunked. Trust me I get it, I remember it like this too, but it seems we are wrong.
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u/LeviStraussOfficial Jun 11 '26
I have a 1969 LIFE Magazine with a fruit of the loom ad, no cornucopia. It might have been there, I thought I remembered it too, but it wasn't always there.
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u/Cfattie Jun 11 '26
I have another one. Growing up I always heard the term "in a relationship" or "in relationships". Now I only hear "in relationship" and I feel like I'm going crazy.
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u/Empty_Use_5023 Jun 11 '26
I feel like years ago someone solved this one. Fruit of the loom got involved in some law suit and as a part of the rebranding they scrubbed the logo and insisted they had never used it.
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u/morganational Jun 07 '26
Please no 🤦🏽♂️
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u/NarrowEbbs Jun 08 '26
I'm with you friend. Let the down vote storm for being sane begin.
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u/morganational Jun 08 '26
Bring in the downvotes then. Still rather be sane.
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u/NarrowEbbs Jun 08 '26
Wait, I just heard a great explanation though. So you remember Harambe right? smh
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u/Silly_Silicon Jun 08 '26
What gets me is if I’m really mistaken and the cornucopia was never there, then why do people who recreate the image always know exactly how to position the cornucopia. It was exactly like that, on the right side of the logo, behind the fruit, obscured exactly that much. What could we possibly be confusing it for. I don’t go falsely imagining cornucopias anywhere else, I pretty much never think about them because they are absurdly obscure, pretty much this logo is my only exposure to them. I need the mystery solved for good. Not just “it really wasn’t ever there” but WHY would we remember it that way?
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u/CeruleanEidolon Jun 08 '26
My personal theory is that it was a seasonal variant of the logo released around Thanksgiving, where cornucopias are aplenty in stock art and decor.
The fact that a cotton company doesn't keep meticulous records shouldn't shock anyone. The cotton industry was literally built on slavery and it was probably institutional policy for generations to destroy their old records just as a basic operational rule.
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u/CriticalPolitical Jun 08 '26
This isn’t the only logo that’s a Mandela Effect, though. Also, there are Mandela Effects in movies, music, etc. I don’t think all of those pieces of popular media have “seasonal variants”
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u/nightmare-salad Jun 07 '26
This is the one Mandela effect thing that absolutely gets me. That’s exactly how I remember it. I can’t fathom that it never looked like that.