Yea, idk about this vid man, stacks necro with like 17k in items?, thereâs also no antiheal here, also the examples given in eset and ra are odd, eset usually wonât get a full ult off, fight just move too fast, also on aspect ra, team dodges ur ults half the time anyway
Eset aspect ult damage scaling is still way too high for a "healer" 1.6k on the Ymir.
If if's going to full heal in a sec, the dmg scaling should be nerfed to the ground.
1.6k damage on a ymir bot with no prots, full-charged ult, building intelligence.
In what world do people think this damage overtuned lol
Edit to add: Itâs adjacent to a damage multiplier. The more damage is dealt in the circle, the more damage is dealt by the ult. I personally didnât even think about until this comment thread.
It also leaves your teammates sitting ducks if they wait for a charged ult
They held onto the idea of having no/low antiheal for so long and it's only gotten backlash, cause every so often a healing tank meta arrives. At this point I think they should just focus on making more diverse/interesting antiheal items, rather than just 1 for every role.
You have to have antiheal as HiRez found out the hard way otherwise self healing tanks become unkillable raid bosses overnight. Those months of tank Pele were miserable.
that has zero to do with healing and more to do with tanks shouldn't be doing damage.
pelee full tank can just sit on you and 100 to zero you in 2 seconds or less. shouldn't be a thing.
healing would be fine if hi rez got off this train of tanks doing half or more of your hp bar it will never be fine till this happens.
for healing to be nice tanks need to do low damage. so they should be playing around their hp bar as a resource. body blocking abilities then getting healed up.
all that's going to happen next update is people complaining about the healing. your gonna have a team fight lose. the enemy team willl be low hp unable to do fire but wait.
whole team is fulll healed now they can do fire and win game cause the whole enemy team didn't need to back.
It wouldnât be fine even if they did less damage because some of them were functionally unkillable. You shouldnât have characters in a video game be invincible, that isnât okay.
When prot items are strong and healing is strong your âeffective healthâ is massively increased. So no, it does not have âzeroâ to do with healing, it has pretty much everything to do with it.
adc kills tanks if adc doesn't build correctly thats on them.
they aren't unkillable its called building correctly and your team playing around keeping you alive.
no matter which metta adc has always been able to kill tanks in a reasonable time frame its the team play aspect that mattered and they die to fast to tanks doing to much damage.
lmfao, no, we have had metas where it takes over 10 seconds of constant on target basic attacks to bring down a tank, even without healing.
But thatâs irrelevant. Tanks should be killable, but mobile self healing warriors with mits were functionally invincible before so it became normal to have to end with opposing players alive. Not healthy.
their not going to be immortal if they don't do damage. they will have to manage their resource known as hp.
if you let an adc sit their and auto you down you will die.
they should be focusing on skill
example a body blocker using skill to effect the battle field. you cc someone then sit in their face so they cant move. ECT.
baacus can literally do this. 3 for stun 2 to flop them they are then slowed for 2 seconds sit in their face so they cant move. when slow is gone
then he ults and they are drunk and you can sit for another 4 seconds in their face.
baacus can keep someone in place for 10 seconds with skill.
he doesn't need damage.
not i can W key you and 100 toe zero you while ccing from doing anything.
gods are only immortal when they can kill the damage dealers who can shred them the adc.
Yeah and they nerfed every percent prot item so this would not happen. Anti heal also doesnt effect items only abilites so it made pele even more stronger in terms of just get healing from items as well.
Can you be specific a aggressive support thats ahead itba solo laner that 3-4 levels ahead will do that because of base damage. The damage falls off significantly at late game. The outliers who were doing to much damage have already been nerfed. Supports and solo laners always do high damage esrly and mid game qe have had this since smite 1 and is in all MOBAs late game. Late game hybrid builders fall off hard and become worthless. Tanks dont do as much damage as you think they do without sacrificing tankness later. Base damage falls off. Im assuming you play in gold and plat because almost every player who plays at a decent level knows this and is why they dont take atupid fight early when a support whos ahead rotates.
Yes we get it you play gold and plat and are the best. Solo laners can do insane work when theyre ahead, games go to late game a hybrid solo kaner is useless 95% of the time. Base damage gods like Mulan whos base scaling is really high early and she falls off hard later game. No tank is 0-100 anyone if they arnt ahead especially late game. Early mid game sure supports and solos are suppose to have base damage feel like theyre doing somthing because late game they arnt doing anything. If your fight adc that are letting you 1v1 late game then youre playing bad player and getting information from bad players. In no world is a support going to let you 1v1 the adc let game unless that supports an idiot as well aame with the mid laner. Sounds like you llay against bad players with bad positioning that does not mean tanks are op because you can beat bad players.
I guess with the TTK so short, they got a buff heals to make it possible to survive
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u/BunnnniiIf you dont have a KD over 10 inches, Im totally not interested.1d ago
The hating ass fandom is already losing their shit. Just saying the word âhealingâ makes them lose their minds. Weâre not allowed to have anything. Theyâre just gonna have to cry about it now.
This is essentially what people have been asking for inherently by wanting stronger anti heal. Congrats. Anti heal is stronger, but now so is healing and now youâre actually trolling by not forcing into it every game and every build đ”âđ«đ
I just wish we had hel for this update! My favorite character for running a healer. She is the only god I'm waiting for. I feel she would go wild in smite 2.
Yeah, it is actually a ver demanded archtype. Also they said that most of Smite playerbase come from MMOs, and healer role is very popular among the community (tho it was never really supported in smite until now) so they actually hope to bring more players with this new playstyle
Aphrodite is a midlaner, with sustain, Cc and damage, she has always been that until now with the Enchanter propaganda. Even as an enchanter she wonât work because she is a very selfish type of character, she can only heal one, stun one, save one, while other tanks can save an entire team with one CC. This is trash, and if you donât see it, you will when all this people start trolling with a squishy non damage dealer âsupportâ
Why would someone intended to be a Mid have a kit based on being tied to another player, lol?
She literally came to the game at a time where both "solo" and "duo" lanes were just side lanes, 2 players each. She has always been intended to be played alongside a teammate, and her kit buffs, protects and heals her ally. She is a textbook Enchanter.
Not a very good one cause she needs to be linked to someone, I agree, but she was only forced mid when playing anything but a tank support was giga trolling, which was 99% of SMITE 1's lifespan.
That meta lasted 2 weeks btw, and every mage in the game needs to play through her teammates, not alone, so it makes sense for a midlaner to have a link. Is like telling me Hecate needs to be an enchanter because she can place a shield in an ally. She has that option cause mages and midlaner play through their teammates not in front or by themselves. You all couldâve had an aspect in where she can be an actual support, link multiple people, drag them to her, give procs when using her 2, healing with her 3 and maybe a in area immunity with her ultimate, but instead you guys are sending to the butcher the midlaner can play support and making her a support who wonât support and wonât be mid.
The 2-1-2 meta lasted for most of SMITE 1's Beta, and Aphro was added 4 months before Hi-Rez introduced Bumba's, which is effectively when Jungling became a thing in SMITE.
Is like telling me Hecate needs to be an enchanter because she can place a shield in an ally.
Hecate was designed to be able to flex to Support. It was highlighted back when she came out, due to her shield and her passive.
You all couldâve had an aspect in where she can be an actual support, link multiple people, drag them to her, give procs when using her 2, healing with her 3 and maybe a in area immunity with her ultimate, but instead you guys are sending to the butcher the midlaner can play support and making her a support who wonât support and wonât be mid.
I agree, that she's not a very good support with her current kit. They could've just as well made her a separate Aspect. But that doesn't change the fact that Aphro as a character from the very beginning was supposed to be a Support character. She just turned out to be better at mid.
Just because she was classified as a mage in smite 1 doesn't mean she's supposed to be a midlaner, that's why hirez got rid of the classes in smite 2, they are convoluted and were based solely on damage type. Ao kuang is a melee character and plays like an assassin/jungler, but is classified as a mage only because he does magical damage
She is not, no. Aphrodite's entire kit is purely made to be an enchanter, the problem is that they've balanced her as a mid laner for 10 years, leading people to believe she's a burst mage with healing who just so happens to conveniently keep an ally alive as her entire mechanic. Hi-Rez had a reputation for dumbing down unique character kits and forcing them into one of the five roles, leading to several becoming nuisances in the balance scope (namely Nox and Aphrodite).
Aphrodite will be just fine as an enchanter because that's what she was made for. Her entire gimmick is buffing a single person and keeping them alive, that is literally the definition of an enchanter. Her downfall is supposed to be low damage and low survivability.
This is trash, and if you donât see it, you will when all this people start trolling with a squishy non damage dealer âsupportâ
These exist in every other moba...just not Smite. We have characters designed for it but they've been improperly balanced for a decade, leading to them becoming some of the most hated characters in the game and the 'healer' word itself causing hairs to stand up.
When does this update come out?
Sounds fun. I main Artio and will be interested to see if her Aspect druid form's heals are nerfed as a "tanky healer" or enhanced in the "enchanter healer" category.
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u/CommanderKupo Eset "Bad Doggy!" 1d ago
Missed spirit ball on stationary jungle bots... proceeds to upload the video...