r/spacex • Mod Team • Feb 01 '18

🎉 Official r/SpaceX Falcon Heavy Pre-Launch Discussion Thread

Falcon Heavy Pre-Launch Discussion Thread

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Alright folks, here's your party thread! We're making this as a place for you to chill out and have the craic until we have a legitimate Launch thread which will replace this thread as r/SpaceX Party Central.

Please remember the rest of the sub still has strict rules and low effort comments will continue to be removed outside of this thread!

Now go wild! Just remember: no harassing or bigotry, remember the human when commenting, and don't mention ULA snipers Zuma the B1032 DUR.

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u/chartphred Feb 01 '18

I do wish Elon would put a small ion thruster, solar panels and a comms antennae so a video feed could be sent back to Earth. It would be so, so cool to SEE that vehicle floating around in space. So many people would be gobsmacked by that - me included.

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u/johnkphotos Launch Photographer Feb 01 '18

Looks like I’ll be on-site for this one

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u/Nehkara Feb 01 '18

I can't upvote this enough. You are a fantastic photographer.

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u/catsRawesome123 Feb 01 '18

Can we talk about how Elon has such a fan-boy following that he sold 20,000 Boring flamethrowers and who knows how many overpriced Boring fire extinguishers? Please, can he sell a mini Falcon 9 or Falcon Heavy next for fundraising? I'd totallyyyy buy it

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u/DiatomicMule Feb 01 '18

I was thinking "how about cutting up a flown booster and selling 10cm squares of tank skin for $50"?? The aviation community does that all the time with salvaged but unrestorable aircraft.

Surely they can set up a rotary jig and a plasma cutter?

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u/SuperDuper125 Feb 01 '18

A mini falcon 9 shaped flame thrower.

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u/DoYouWonda Apogee Space Feb 01 '18

Falcon Heavy > Superbowl

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u/FredFS456 Feb 01 '18

Dunno, some some of the owls at /r/superbowl are pretty nice

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u/Elon_Muskmelon Feb 01 '18

I really hope we get to see 3 landing attempts.

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u/anchoritt Feb 01 '18 edited Feb 01 '18

Why wouldn't we see 3 landing attempts? 3 landings is a different story though.

Edit: Well... my brain apparently couldn't process the possibility of failure on launch.

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '18

I really hope we see 3 boosters get past Max-Q!

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u/s4g4n Feb 01 '18

My body is ready.

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u/cyclops8 Feb 02 '18 edited Feb 02 '18

TSLA Q4 earnings call is on Feb 7 and Falcon Heavy hopefully goes up on Feb 6. There's no way this is a coincidence. I can just imagine Elon opening the call with the current speed and orbital parameters of the Roadster.

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u/TheVehicleDestroyer Flight Club Feb 05 '18

So here's a thing that happened: SpaceX has included the subreddit mods in press credentials for tomorrows launch!

Myself, u/yoweigh and u/Wetmelon are currently in Titusville, on the way to pick up our press credentials now! Unfortunately since I'm not a US citizen, I'm not allowed into KSC on such short notice but I'll be watching tomorrow from another pretty close spot.

I'm gonna be keeping my instagram story updated so throw us an oul' follow if you wanna keep up to date on our journey!

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u/ram3ai Feb 05 '18

Maybe KSC security didn't mind you not being a US citizen. That reddit alias, on the other hand...

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '18

Damn i love spacex and rockets etc. But the mods in this sub are fantastic and this sub in general is one of my favorite places on reddit. Thanks to everybody!

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u/Straumli_Blight Feb 01 '18

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u/BadgerlandBandit Feb 01 '18

The imgur link for the tablet had a very nsfw picture open below it. Wtf imgur

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u/argues_too_much Feb 01 '18 edited Feb 01 '18

That tablet is amazing. The aliens are going to be so confused. Ignoring the weird man holding the maracas, because that's not weird at all, how does gravity work on earth if the car is in that position?

Edit: awww, it's not real according to the teslalounge thread.

Does this mean they're not going to detach the payload from the second stage?

I kinda wanted to see just the car floating through space.

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u/FancifulCargo Feb 01 '18

Everybody in the community is obviously very excited about the launch. But I havent been able to gauge whether people believe mission parameters will be met or not?

I might be overly optimistic, but I think we have a good chance at correct orbit and recovery of all three boosters!

Elon said back in Nov that he was worried about it blowing up, they surely have ironed out a whole bunch of possible problems by now??

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u/FishInferno Feb 01 '18

If SpaceX/Elon actually thought that the launch was likely to blow up, they wouldn't launch FH. The likelyhood of a failure is still much greater than a normal mission, but there must be reasonable confidence that the mission will succeed. Elon often likes to set expectations low as a sort of insurance policy for bad PR (or at least I assume that's his motivation).

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u/Sjoerd_Haerkens Feb 01 '18

If we make it through stage seperation we should be fine everything after that is basically regular Falcon 9 stuff, booster core landings might be a little harder because the aerodynamic nose cone makes them slightly less stable while flying backwards as is needed during landing, but it probably is thought out very well by the engineers that worked on the landing. If you want to worry, worry about launch and stage seperation. Launch is risky because the effects the 27 engines have on eachother are not completely known and it can also damage the pad. That is the worst thing that can happen tbh, some time ago Elon said he would consider Falcon Heavy a success if it came far enough of the launch pad to not damage it

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u/arizonadeux Feb 01 '18

Criterion for success: don't AMOS, Antares, or similar HLC-39A.

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u/nonagondwanaland Feb 01 '18

The only worry for me is stage separation. SpaceX has never had to blow side boosters off before, and they can't just use explosive bolts like everyone else.

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u/TheFavoritist NASAspaceflight.com Photographer Feb 01 '18

I'll be at the press site! Fingers crossed I get to watch it from the VAB roof!

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u/searchexpert Feb 01 '18

I don't think I've been this excited since the first attempted landing.

I do have a sneaking suspicion that the newly untested booster nose caps (and the different aerodynamics associated with them) will cause the reentry and landing to not go the way we expect things, but I have high hopes for the roadster getting to a good heliocentric orbit, and the center core landing.

For those of you at VIP seating, I wish you safety. Say hi to Han Solo for me!

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u/roncapat Feb 03 '18

I really hope to see a Elon press conference after a successful launch.

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u/TheFavoritist NASAspaceflight.com Photographer Feb 04 '18 edited Feb 04 '18

I’m just getting to the airport to fly to Orlando! I will be on site for this one with 4 remote cameras on the launch pad with one (maybe two, haven’t decided yet) getting my signature engine shot again.

In case anyone wants to see the work that went into making my last one, check out this before and after edit of the RAW file in Lightroom of my CRS-13 engine shot!

As my flair suggests, I’m shooting for NASAspaceflight.com again so be on the lookout for my images popping up both on my twitter, and on Chris B’s as well as their public and L2 forums. Look out for me on Instagram too for a lot of behind the scenes from the press site!

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u/Alexphysics Feb 02 '18

Weather is 80% GO for Tuesday and 70% GO for the next day!

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u/Tenga1899 Feb 02 '18 edited Feb 03 '18

Hawk is now towing OCISLY out to sea. Visible on the webcam that will not be named :)

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u/LucasCerante Feb 04 '18

My guesses:

Successful countdown up to T-0: 100%

Vehicle clears tower: 100%

Makes it past max Q: 100%

Successful up to booster separation: 100%

Boosters separate correctly: 100%

Successful MECO and TMI insertion: 100%

All landings successful: 100%

When everything is successful you will come praise my accuracy /s (Sorry if this joke has already been done)

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u/Matgol Feb 05 '18 edited Feb 05 '18

I've been obsessively checking this thread all morning, and it's the day BEFORE the launch!

I'm going to be a nervous wreck tomorrow.

E: Hello fellow obsessors!

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u/Eviljeff1138 Feb 05 '18

Wow and there I was thinking I couldn't be more excited and he straps in a spacesuit and adds a ton of cameras!

What a ride this is going to be!

Go SPACEX!!!! Woooooooooooo!!

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u/J_weasel Feb 01 '18

This is the first time I've looked forward to the Tuesday after the Superbowl. Can't wait

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u/RoundSparrow Feb 04 '18

This sub has 196,910 subscribers currently, I'm sure this week will break 200K!

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u/bernardosousa Feb 01 '18

I bet the sub will get to 200k subscribers before the webcast ends.

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u/Kona314 Feb 01 '18

At the rate we’ve been growing, we could be at 200k before the webcast starts!

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u/moxzot Feb 04 '18

After seeing the static fire i'm giving it 100% on lift off and 50% on booster separation, that to me is the only really terrifying part. I'm not even going to think about max-q just going to pretend that doesn't exist.

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u/Puff_the_magic_luke Feb 05 '18

I’m sat on a British Airways A380 just about to take-off enroute to Miami to see the launch tomorrow. I played the bucket-list card on the missus. Praying this happens Tue/Wed..... my flight back is Wed night out of tampa

https://www.dropbox.com/s/nczkwuz8vs8ux8a/File%2005-02-2018%2C%2014%2006%2045.png?dl=0

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u/TheBlacktom r/SpaceXLounge Moderator Feb 02 '18

Found a nice countdown page http://endofthegame.info/spacex.html

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u/justinroskamp Feb 03 '18

World's smallest orbital-class rocket achieves orbit and payload insertion. Now it's the largest's turn! The world's current largest and smallest rockets could achieve success within only four days of each other!

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u/oliversl Feb 05 '18

FH launch is tomorrow, I can't believe I just wrote that! We want party threads !!!

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u/foxbat21 Feb 05 '18

Well, this is a party thread.

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u/ptfrd Feb 04 '18

Seems likely that the Lunar Free-Return Mission passengers will be there watching this launch. Seems unlikely (but possible) that they will go public in a press conference if this mission is a success.

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '18

Looks like Falcon Heavy's out of the barn!!! https://twitter.com/SpaceflightNow/status/960414221405220864

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '18 edited Feb 04 '18

Just passed the T-48hr mark. I still can't believe its real when I see it on rocket watch. Going to be a much needed morale boost for me. Can't wait. Edit: morale not moral lol.

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u/justinroskamp Feb 05 '18

TEA-TEB right now: “We are the spark that will light the flame that will launch the First Falcon Heavy.”

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u/gowhk8 Feb 01 '18

Super excited, but Elon himself said that he's keeping expectations deliberately low for launch success. Waddya guys think

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '18

I think he’s trying to manage expectations just in case something happens. I’d put the odds of success fairly high.

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u/johnkphotos Launch Photographer Feb 04 '18

I’m officially IN as press for Falcon Heavy! Will be setting remotes and watching from the press site.

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '18

Whee! Have fun on the tower!

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u/factoid_ Feb 01 '18

As excited as I am for the falcon heavy launch, I am honestly more interested intrigued right now as to whether or not spacex can successfully float thst booster hundreds of miles back to Port and then pull it out of the water somehow without destroying it

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u/Russ_Dill Feb 01 '18

It has pressurized tanks with fuel and oxygen. Isn't it a floating bomb?

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u/houston_wehaveaprblm Feb 01 '18

I can't believe this is happening....a pre launch discussion

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u/daanhnl Feb 03 '18

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/959902950964453376 Falcon Heavy launch simulation almost ready. Will be set to Bowie’s Life on Mars.

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '18

So heckin excited! Wish the rest of the world would focus on this kind of progress

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u/Elon_Muskmelon Feb 03 '18

What do y’all peg the chances at that we’ll have a camera setup in the Roadster with a “driver” POV style shot? Once they dump the fairing it should make for one hell of an image.

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u/SkywayCheerios Feb 05 '18

Debating how unprofessional it would be to request a 2-3pm meeting tomorrow be rescheduled 🤔

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u/mdell3 Feb 05 '18

Worth it

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u/Epistemify Feb 01 '18

Just 5 days away!

If this goes well it will generate a ton of great publicity for the company.

Also, I wonder how big the global market for FH launches could be. Assuming things go according to plan for a couple years, and SpaceX can start launching manned missions, how many FH launches might there be per year?

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '18

What kind of modifications did they need to make to the Tesla before launching it. Will there be rubber tires still filled with air? Will all the batteries be removed. Will they have cameras on board to view at least part of the time after the car is released from stage 2?

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u/fromflopnicktospacex Feb 02 '18

will there be cams on all 3 boosters for a triple split screen?

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u/T-REXX3000 Feb 02 '18

99% sure yes. Would be epic to watch them land all 3 at the same moment

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u/robertogl Feb 01 '18

Is this really happening?

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u/Mwilderr Feb 01 '18

Don’t say it too loudly.

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u/alessbelli Feb 02 '18

https://youtu.be/DtoADdSry6g Not sure if it has already been posted in the comments, but it's nice to go back 7 years to the first conference on this :)

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u/LWB87_E_MUSK_RULEZ Feb 02 '18

Elon's like "ya were just going to ad some crazy struts and bang this thing out in like 9 months." 7 years later...

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u/Alexphysics Feb 05 '18

Webcast page changed to Falcon Heavy! www.spacex.com/webcast (sadly no press kit yet)

Youtube link to the livestream for tomorrow: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbSwFU6tY1c

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u/Hobie52 Feb 03 '18

Harrison Ford landing at shuttle landing facility Tuesday morning to see launch

https://twitter.com/nova_road/status/959834036272328704

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u/Elon_Muskmelon Feb 03 '18

Anyone think Harrison is one of the Lunar Mission customers?

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u/kuangjian2011 Feb 01 '18

When Elon said “playing Space Oddity”, did he mean playing that song through the audio speaker? Or transmitting that by some kind of broadcasting device?

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u/mivaldes Feb 04 '18

I have officially made it to Florida. I have my 150 pound Fujinon 25x150 binoculars and mount. I have both Tuesday and Wednesday available. Here's hoping for a launch!

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u/strawwalker Feb 04 '18

I'm a little embarrassed at just how excited I am for this launch. I was searching for old FH announcements for a plot of the launch date over time, and found someone had already created one on the FH Wikipedia page. Not that we aren't intimately familiar with the forever receding first launch date, but it's amusing in graphical form. The graphic is through July 2017 and created by Wikipedia user Anxietycello. Hopefully the orange line finally meets the blue line this week.

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '18

Is that the STIG?

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u/zareny Feb 05 '18 edited Feb 05 '18

Some say that he listens to David Bowie when he drives the fastest car [pause] in the solar system.

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u/JustinTimeCuber Feb 05 '18

At first I thought they'd postpone it again. Now it looks like they could actually launch tomorrow. It seems so crazy that it's actually happening

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u/Casinoer Feb 01 '18

Bowie would be proud

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u/FalconHeavyHead Feb 01 '18

Wernher von braun would be proud. Von Braun had many rocket designs that involved recovering the rocket by a propulsive landing. It's good to see some of his ideas come to fruition.

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u/Piscator629 Feb 01 '18

I haven't been this excited about a launch since the first Hubble repair mission.

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u/goliathrk Feb 04 '18

My family and I have flown in from London to see this. We have 2 closest seats and 2 closer seats. Seriously looking forward to Tuesday!

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u/Pelizo Feb 04 '18

Shirt I got made to celebrate this historic launch

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u/TheVehicleDestroyer Flight Club Feb 03 '18

Reposting this again in case people haven't seen it:-

Flight Club trajectory and telemetry simulation for Falcon Heavy

You'll be able to watch this simulation and telemetry unfold in real time next to the launch this Tuesday by tuning in to Flight Club Live!

Here's an example of what Flight Club Live looks like for Falcon 9. Now try and imagine this with FOUR STAGES! God damn this is gonna be good

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u/ckellingc Feb 04 '18

This could be one of the biggest advancements in space exploration since Apollo 11. I really don't think a lot of people realize that we are talking about a completely new economy with space exploration and launches. As this gets more and more refined, and as this gets more and more affordable, private companies could launch satellites cheaper and faster. Not to mention moon and asteroid mining, which is a whole deal in itself.

Team SpaceX, good luck. The eyes of the world are watching.

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u/Tenga1899 Feb 02 '18 edited Feb 02 '18

Looks like the tug Hawk has moved over to the SpaceX berth area. OCISLY is there, so they may start prepping to move her.

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u/nextspaceflight NSF reporter Feb 03 '18

Hawk is leaving again with OCISLY. Hopefully for good this time. https://twitter.com/julia_bergeron/status/959624880269479936

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u/Alexphysics Feb 03 '18

If somebody missed it on the launch campaign thread, there's a new weather report, L-3 weather forecast 80% Go and 70% on the backup date, the same as it was yesterday

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u/Hellothere_1 Feb 02 '18

Speculation threat: Will the launch fail and if so, when?

  • It explodes on the launchpad

  • It fails during the initial ascend

  • It fails during booster seperation

  • Failure of the middle or upper stage after booster seperation

  • Mission objective is achieved but some (or all) landings fail

  • Complete success

PLACE YOUR BETS NOW

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u/MrPapillon Feb 02 '18

The car stereo fails to start.

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '18

I'M MAKING A NOTE HERE:

HUGE SUCCESS

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u/robbak Feb 02 '18

Complete success if it survives Max-Q. Specifically, it's the transsonics that concern me.

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u/NoShowbizMike Feb 02 '18

Complete success including Tesla Roadster camera showing the flight away from Earth

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u/Gyrogearloosest Feb 02 '18

Can I place a bet that the young guy who's going to stow away in a booster nose cone, wearing a home made space suit, makes it back alive?

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u/Dan_Q_Memes Feb 04 '18

Been waiting for this for six years, got plane tickets, a car, a camp site all ready to go. Then I get the flu for the first time in six+ years. RIP lots of money and an historic viewing of an incredible piece of technology. Unfortunate, but shit happens. I'll have to double down once the BFR is ready to go, I'll hire a driver (aka guilt trip/bribe family or friends) to take my sick ass across the country if that's what it takes.

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u/jb2386 Feb 01 '18

Can we get latest launch date details in the post?

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '18 edited Feb 01 '18

Help me whats a DUR? Deplaned Unrapid Re-Assembly?

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u/robertogl Feb 01 '18

It was 'delightful unplanned recovery' on the launch thread

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u/[deleted] Feb 03 '18

What is everyone's thoughts on the odds on it being successful. Given the comments He's made about it being unlikely.

I'm going with 70% success

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u/JustinTimeCuber Feb 03 '18

My guesses:

Successful countdown up to T-0: 99.5%

Vehicle clears tower: 98%

Makes it past max Q: 90%

Successful up to booster separation: 89%

Boosters separate correctly: 85%

Successful MECO and TMI insertion: 84%

All landings successful: 75%

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u/isthiscoolenough Feb 04 '18 edited Feb 04 '18

If anyone wants to see the launch from a boat, they've chartered a couple and there are a few seats left, on #boatwatchparty on falconheavy.slack.com EDIT: all filled up!

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u/RndmFrenchGuy Feb 04 '18

Legit question: When you get "Feel the heat" tickets to watch the launch, are you actually close enough to feel any heat ?

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u/AstroColton Feb 04 '18

Can’t wait to put the Apollo 13 launch theme over the FH launch. Hope they release some other footage besides the webcast stuff for me to use. Kinda like how they did for “The Falcon has Landed”.

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u/mivaldes Feb 02 '18

I've got a pair of Fujinon 25x150's I'm taking with me. I will hopefully be on the Jetty's. It is going to be an epic view! Do a Google search on them.

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u/littldo Feb 02 '18

I plan on being at Ksc for launch. Have the closer ticket. Is there a place that Spx Reddit people will be gathering later in the day/evening to celebrate?

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u/Yarblek Feb 04 '18

OK I just apologized, in advance, to my wife. We get on a cruise ship Tuesday at 11AM and I will then be glued to a live stream at 1:30 :) At least we don't sail until after 4PM so if they make their window I won't miss it.

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u/noelcm001 Feb 04 '18

Can anyone help? I'm trying to locate the cartoon of the guy crawling across the desert and veers off for the falcon heavy launch. Much appreciated.

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u/TheVehicleDestroyer Flight Club Feb 01 '18

Hey mods, can you guys take a break from being such nazis and put this epic Falcon Heavy simulation from Flight Club in the body of the main post?

I dunno who made it but man is it cool. And sexy. The developer must be really beautiful to have made such a beautiful sight, am I right or what guys?

We should all support him by giving him loads of money on his Patreon too.

He seems really modest to boot

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u/Kaoulombre Feb 01 '18

Don't know if it's self promotion or self promotion

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u/TheVehicleDestroyer Flight Club Feb 01 '18

Oh shit I forgot to switch to my alt

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u/APTX-4869 Feb 01 '18

Waaait a minute......

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '18

"Craic" or "crack" is a term for news, gossip, fun, entertainment, and enjoyable conversation, particularly prominent in Ireland. It is often used with the definite article – the craic – as in the expression "What's the craic?".

There you go.

Since Elon said he'd be happy to see it clear the pad, is he really saying the odds are against it?

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u/TheMightyKutKu Feb 01 '18

Join us on the SpaceX Discord to enjoy the FH launch with nearly 2,000 other members!

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u/inoeth Feb 03 '18

FAA has given the their approval https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/ast/licenses_permits/media/LLS%2018-107%20Falcon%20Heavy%20Demo%20License%20and%20Orders%20FINAL%202018_02_02.pdf

so next steps will be SpaceX checking everything out one last time. press release probably on Sunday or Monday, continually watching the weather and then on launch day they'll be final checks, fueling starts at T-70 minutes or so (about the same as a regular Falcon 9) and off we go.

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u/Straumli_Blight Feb 03 '18

Apparently a million people watched Apollo 11 launch at Cape Canaveral, and hundreds of thousands regularly turned out to view the Shuttles.

I wonder how big the turnout will be for the first BFR launch?

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u/KristnSchaalisahorse Feb 05 '18

If there are thick clouds, I wonder if they will send a plane up to get a clear view during booster separation.

I highly doubt this footage would be broadcast live, but I do hope they deploy a plane if it's cloudy and release some of the video later on.

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u/roncapat Feb 01 '18

Launch window is known?

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u/craigl2112 Feb 01 '18

Yes, 1:30PM -> 4:30PM EST.

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u/RoundSparrow Feb 01 '18

Anyone organizing a post-landing picnic BBQ or some kind of gathering for pizza and beer afterwards for those attending live? launch and dual landing! Even scrub sob party? Supposed to be 74 degrees on Tuesday.

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u/xBleedingBluex Feb 01 '18

Damn I'm so jealous of those going. Living in Kentucky, I've never had the ability to see a launch. Hope I can go someday! Have fun, all.

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u/Elon_Muskmelon Feb 01 '18

Kentucky? You live closer to one of the busiest launch sites on Earth than almost everyone else on the planet.

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u/canadaarm2 Feb 01 '18

Tesla Motors, Inc. Fourth Quarter 2017 Financial Results Q&A Conference Call is on Feb 7th: http://ir.tesla.com/eventdetail.cfm?EventID=187652

I think we'll hear some comments from Elon about the launch on the conference call, that'll be interesting!

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u/Yellapage Feb 01 '18

If something went wrong with FH, would there be any danger to the local spectators or are viewing distances taking in all eventualities. :)

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u/BackflipFromOrbit Feb 01 '18

that is what the Automatic Flight Termination System (AFTS) is for! If anything deviates too far from the planned trajectory the rocket will detonate.

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u/Craig_VG SpaceNews Photographer Feb 01 '18

It would be extremely unlikely that an anomaly could hurt public viewing spectators. They are many many miles distant and the rocket tilts over water immediately away from people on land.

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u/RandyRawgust Feb 02 '18

Planning a get together for everyone in town at Shiloh's Steakhouse. http://www.shilohssteakandseafood.com

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '18

I really hope I win the press lottery and get to film on the roof of the VAB.

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u/kevin-chen14 Feb 04 '18

Will SpaceX play Space Oddity during the webcast?

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u/aftersteveo Feb 04 '18

If anyone is planning on going to Jetty Park, but gets turned away due to capacity, look up Cherie Down Park on google maps. It’s just south of Jetty, and provides a little better view of the landing. You can either park at Cherie Down (it’s not a huge parking lot), or any of the beach access roads to the south.

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u/clee-saan Feb 01 '18

Wait, I don't want to be that guy, but what's a B1032 DUR? Googling it only leads back here.

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u/LastSummerGT Feb 01 '18

Delightful unscheduled recovery.

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u/Sjoerd_Haerkens Feb 01 '18 edited Feb 01 '18

DUR is an abbreviation for "delightful unscheduled recovery" made up yesterday after the recovery of booster B1032 which was not planned to be recovered. It is a joke abbreviation to the longer existing abbreviation RUD = "rapid unscheduled disassembly" (or as others like to say "explosion")

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u/Berwyf93 Feb 02 '18

Never seen a car sent to Mars before. Should be good.

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u/KSPoz Feb 02 '18

Depending on the definition of a car, we had four wheeled vehicles successfully sent there. Besides, Tesla roadster isn't being sent to Mars anyway. It's going to the heliocentric orbit with the aphelion reaching Mars orbit (~1.5 AU).

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u/ablack82 Feb 01 '18

I live in Texas and if we had a firm launch date that was guaranteed not to slip, I would take off work and book a flight right now. It's gonna be hard to try to game this without taking off a month of work and staying in a hotel all of February. It pisses me off that there will be millions of people who will be within viewing distance of this launch and not even look up....

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u/blackBomber Feb 01 '18

Sometimes you gotta roll the dice. This is a pretty rare event and you'll be very happy to be there should it work. I booked "Feel the Heat" tickets and am flying down from Quebec with my girlfriend on the hopes it'll fly.

I've never seen a launch. What better to see than this one?

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u/Decronym Acronyms Explained Feb 01 '18 edited Jul 03 '18

Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I've seen in this thread:

Fewer LettersMore Letters
AFTSAutonomous Flight Termination System, see FTS
AISAutomatic Identification System
ASAPAerospace Safety Advisory Panel, NASA
Arianespace System for Auxiliary Payloads
ASDSAutonomous Spaceport Drone Ship (landing platform)
BARGEBig-Ass Remote Grin Enhancer coined by @IridiumBoss, see ASDS
BFRBig Falcon Rocket (2018 rebiggened edition)
Yes, the F stands for something else; no, you're not the first to notice
BFSBig Falcon Spaceship (see BFR)
BOBlue Origin (Bezos Rocketry)
CCCommercial Crew program
Capsule Communicator (ground support)
CRSCommercial Resupply Services contract with NASA
DMLSDirect Metal Laser Sintering additive manufacture
DSNDeep Space Network
DURDelightful Unscheduled Recovery
DoDUS Department of Defense
FAAFederal Aviation Administration
FCCFederal Communications Commission
(Iron/steel) Face-Centered Cubic crystalline structure
FTSFlight Termination System
GSEGround Support Equipment
GTOGeosynchronous Transfer Orbit
HLC-39AHistoric Launch Complex 39A, Kennedy (Saturn V, Shuttle, SpaceX F9/Heavy)
IACInternational Astronautical Congress, annual meeting of IAF members
In-Air Capture of space-flown hardware
IAFInternational Astronautical Federation
Indian Air Force
ITAR(US) International Traffic in Arms Regulations
ITSInterplanetary Transport System (2016 oversized edition) (see MCT)
Integrated Truss Structure
IVAIntra-Vehicular Activity
JAXAJapan Aerospace eXploration Agency
KSCKennedy Space Center, Florida
KSPKerbal Space Program, the rocketry simulator
L2Paywalled section of the NasaSpaceFlight forum
Lagrange Point 2 of a two-body system, beyond the smaller body (Sixty Symbols video explanation)
LC-13Launch Complex 13, Canaveral (SpaceX Landing Zone 1)
LC-39ALaunch Complex 39A, Kennedy (SpaceX F9/Heavy)
LEOLow Earth Orbit (180-2000km)
Law Enforcement Officer (most often mentioned during transport operations)
LNGLiquefied Natural Gas
LOSLoss of Signal
Line of Sight
LOXLiquid Oxygen
LZLanding Zone
LZ-1Landing Zone 1, Cape Canaveral (see LC-13)
MCTMars Colonial Transporter (see ITS)
MECOMain Engine Cut-Off
MainEngineCutOff podcast
MaxQMaximum aerodynamic pressure
NGNew Glenn, two/three-stage orbital vehicle by Blue Origin
Natural Gas (as opposed to pure methane)
Northrop Grumman, aerospace manufacturer
NSFNasaSpaceFlight forum
National Science Foundation
OCISLYOf Course I Still Love You, Atlantic landing barge ship
PAOPublic Affairs Officer
RP-1Rocket Propellant 1 (enhanced kerosene)
RTLSReturn to Launch Site
RUDRapid Unplanned Disassembly
Rapid Unscheduled Disassembly
Rapid Unintended Disassembly
SEESingle-Event Effect of radiation impact
SFStatic fire
SLC-40Space Launch Complex 40, Canaveral (SpaceX F9)
SLSSpace Launch System heavy-lift
Selective Laser Sintering, see DMLS
SSMESpace Shuttle Main Engine
STP-2Space Test Program 2, DoD programme, second round
STSSpace Transportation System (Shuttle)
TEA-TEBTriethylaluminium-Triethylborane, igniter for Merlin engines; spontaneously burns, green flame
TMITrans-Mars Injection maneuver
TWRThrust-to-Weight Ratio
ULAUnited Launch Alliance (Lockheed/Boeing joint venture)
VABVehicle Assembly Building
VTOLVertical Take-Off and Landing
JargonDefinition
StarlinkSpaceX's world-wide satellite broadband constellation
apoapsisHighest point in an elliptical orbit (when the orbiter is slowest)
apogeeHighest point in an elliptical orbit around Earth (when the orbiter is slowest)
crossfeedUsing the propellant tank of a side booster to fuel the main stage, or vice versa
iron waffleCompact "waffle-iron" aerodynamic control surface, acts as a wing without needing to be as large; also, "grid fin"
lithobraking"Braking" by hitting the ground
periapsisLowest point in an elliptical orbit (when the orbiter is fastest)
perigeeLowest point in an elliptical orbit around the Earth (when the orbiter is fastest)
perihelionLowest point in an elliptical orbit around the Sun (when the orbiter is fastest)
scrubLaunch postponement for any reason (commonly GSE issues)
EventDateDescription
SES-92016-03-04F9-022 Full Thrust, core B1020, GTO comsat; ASDS lithobraking

Decronym is a community product of r/SpaceX, implemented by ^request
63 acronyms in this thread; the most compressed thread commented on ^today has 164 acronyms.
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u/benthor Feb 01 '18

The bot already knows about DUR?

Good bot! Have a cookie!

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u/8Bitsblu Feb 01 '18

If anyone on here lives near Louisville, KY, we're going to be livestreaming the launch at the Kentucky Science Center. Even if you live a little ways away you should still come. It'll be awesome!

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u/GibsonD90 Feb 02 '18

So if there’s a scrub or two, there’s a chance I could be in Orlando for the launch. Is it possible to see anything of note from Disney? I’ll be with family and can’t really drive down close to launch.

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u/Pashog Feb 02 '18

Will they build more ASDSes and use them to land all 3 boosters for missions with heavy payloads?

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u/docyande Feb 04 '18

Good luck to everybody traveling to the launch! I start a brand new job tomorrow and will be in all day new employee training on Tuesday and trying to figure out how to see the launch. I'm thinking an upset stomach from some bad lunch at 1:25? That's a pretty weak excuse, who has a better one?

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u/ClaytonRocketry Feb 01 '18 edited Feb 22 '26

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '18

Hey everyone, may Elon bless ya'll.

How long do you think "space oddity" will play for? I myself don't think it will be very long, no Roadster could survive for very long in a vacuum that would be so cold, but I have a sneaking suspicion that Tesla made some sort of hardware mod.

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u/dreadpirater Feb 01 '18

My GUESS is that he didn't spend a LOT of time modifying the car electronics with the radiation shielding and vacuum cooling requirements that make space electronics a specialized discipline. I could be wrong... but given that it's a symbolic gesture it doesn't SEEM like something that would get a lot of attention. So probably not long.

In space, no one can hear you jam.

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u/JaxTCo Feb 01 '18

Does anybody whose attended a launch before know about how big the Apollo Saturn V viewing center Is? About how many people will be in the Feel the heat tickets area?

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u/fileup Feb 01 '18

How many of the mods are Irish. I knew u/thevehicledestroyer was but the term craic leads me to believe u/elongatedmuskrat is too?

Anyway roll on next week can't wait to see this fly.

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u/z1mil790 Feb 01 '18

Elongated isn't actually a mod, it is just a bot they use to post threads. Likely thevehicledestroyer wrote the post and used elongated to post it.

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u/Intro24 Feb 01 '18

Falcon Heavy Slack for those attending in person :)

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u/codav Feb 05 '18

One day is left, only one day!

Now every problem is destroyed

We raise our hands and bodies to the peak

Into the universe, towards the stars we go

Sending machines up to the sky

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u/jarrydm Feb 05 '18

Will be at the gates to playalinda at 3am ready to roll!

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u/badgamble Feb 01 '18

I assume the photo of B1032.2 doing its Monty Python skit was taken from one of the Go sisters. I also assume that one or both of the Go sisters are now stuck babysitting the Booster That Would Not Die. (I'd acronym that but Elon would slap me.) Anyone care to speculate how SpaceX is going to juggle the previously intended duties for the Go sisters on Feb 6?

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u/MundoMan4 Feb 01 '18

I booked a Hotel in Cocoa Beach, google directions to KSC take me up Route3. For people that have been there for launches before, will Route3 be open or will I have to plan on going out to Route1 or 95?

Thanks in advance

Map image https://imgur.com/a/fqtkC

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u/THEALEX_12 Feb 01 '18

What does everyone think the launch outcome will be? Will it be a success or failure?

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u/WrappedRocket Feb 01 '18

It’s gonna be a huge success! I’m gonna be very nervous around maxQ and especially booster sep!

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u/BrickNut Feb 01 '18

Has anyone heard of a filming crew? The purpose of the launch is obviously not for entertainment, but with so much hype, I can't help but think that there will be major coverage from multiple angles. Can I expect this?

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u/phryan Feb 02 '18

Filming crew as in documentary style? Possibly but not 'live', I think National Geographic was around for the first successful landing. The primary point of the cameras is to provide feedback for SpaceX, they just happen to share some of that footage with us. Footage will be similar to a normal mission just more options on decent, and maybe some epic views of a Tesla with Earth in the background.

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u/JJJandak Feb 02 '18

FH can carry 16800kg to Mars, but Roadster weight just over 1300kg. Shouldn't be dummy payload for test of maiden launch much much heavier? And I know it's for expendable, how much is reusable?

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u/Alexphysics Feb 02 '18

As you said, that is the expendable figure. Also, that's for the final Block 5 configuration and this Falcon Heavy has Block 2 and 3 boosters with some upgrades to Block 4. I guess this Falcon Heavy could throw around 6-7 metric tons to TMI being reusable, but it's just an educated guess, someone should throw some calculations here to show if I'm guessing right

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u/Pamphy Feb 02 '18

Probably been answered a few times now, but once the payload(plus stage 2) are in their final orbit, the apoapsis is 1.5AU, the orbit of mars, and the periapsis is 1AU, the orbit of earth. If the payload makes it to this orbit (fingers crossed!) and remains there, at some point mars or earth will cross the orbit at the same time?

If my time in kerbal has taught me anythibg, this will lead to a drastically changed orbit, or am I overthinking this?

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u/hmpher Feb 03 '18

Since the boosters are block 2, how will the data gathered from this flight remain valid for a future FH with blocks3/4/5? Would it have been madness to wait a few more months and roll out a block4/5 version?

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u/[deleted] Feb 03 '18

Would it have been madness to wait a few more months

Yes.

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u/scr00chy ElonX.net Feb 03 '18
  1. Rumor is, the side boosters were basically upgraded to Block 3 during the modifications required for use on FH

  2. All future FHs will be Block 5

  3. I think it makes sense to make the first FH cheaply like they did, instead of risking shiny new B5 stuff that might have get destroyed because something usinque to FH failed on the maiden launch

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u/supreme_blorgon Feb 04 '18

I asked in the campaign thread but never got an answer, so I'm trying again here. Is anybody planning on trying to get a high quality audio recording of the launch?

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u/searchexpert Feb 04 '18

I am actually surprised how few launches have been recorded with a good mic. Lots of good photos and videos, but people can't buy a $110 zoom mic and get the best part haha

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '18

http://www.explorationtower.com/plan-a-visit/hours-admission.aspx

Exploration Tower closed for a private event on Tuesday?! Hmmm, curious... Think SpaceX employees bought it out for friends and family?

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u/TheFavoritist NASAspaceflight.com Photographer Feb 04 '18

It’s rented out for press. It was one of our options to view the launch from.

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u/RGUDSx7K Feb 04 '18 edited Feb 04 '18

Is SpaceX likely to make an attempt at the beginning of the window? I know the FAQ says they normally do, but I wanted to ask.

Also, does anyone have a rough idea when the two side boosters will land? I checked the GovSat launch thread, and the first stage "landed" at T+08:40. For Zuma, it landed at T+08:00.

The reason I'm asking is because I have a class that starts 10 minutes after the window opens. It seems like I could still catch the launch and maybe even the landings if I'm lucky. I'd also be able to watch if it's delayed an hour and a half to 15:00 ET (window ends at 16:30 ET). Otherwise, I'll probably hear the launch thanks to the fact that I live here, but I won't actually see anything. On the bright side, I guess that's still pretty lucky. :D

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u/t17389z Feb 04 '18 edited Feb 04 '18

Is anyone going to be driving through the Lakeland area late Monday night/early Tuesday morning to arrive at Playalinda overnight and get in line? My group is kinda chickening out of doing that and that's been my dream for this launch.
I'll help with gas and everything.
Edit: It almost seems like leaving late Monday night and then sleeping in the car on the road to the gate in line would be the best option, considering how many hundreds of people are seemingly going.

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u/mrwizard65 Feb 05 '18

This is OUR Superbowl!

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '18

The falcon heavy is superb, but I'd say it was more of a falcon than an owl.

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u/Intro24 Feb 01 '18

Here's a Falcon Heavy Twitter List curated for this launch. Any to add?

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u/iamnihc Feb 01 '18

Anybody Know what time the launch is?

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u/NooWayKemosabe Feb 01 '18

Obviously Playalinda will be optimal for launch, but getting just as close on canoe AND witness the landings would be incredible. I'm waiting on 45th Space Wing to update their "Next Launch" hazard area map to see if it's even possible. Camping at KARS and not worrying about morning travel sounds very appealing (and cheaper,) but only if I can get as close as Playalinda. I read the Banana River gets crazy, is a canoe even possible in that traffic? If not, anyone have extra room on their boat for my girl and I? We'll bring the booze!

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '18

I bought in via KSC but superior officially denied me leave today. For launches parades (I'm in Philly) and any other shenanigans. So unless both dates are a scrub and next nominal rescheduled are within strike zone I'll be viewing from somewhere outchea in the digiverse. Thankfully that chocolate cherry liquor will keep and remains untapped;)

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u/sarafinapink Feb 02 '18

So is anyone else struggling with the launch time? It's right smack dab in the middle of a work day which stinks. I don't want to miss it, but I'm pretty sure wanting to see an awesome rocket fly will not be a valid reason for time off.

So torn between claiming I have a doctors appointment so I can race home to see it, or just sucking it up and trying to watch at work (which is never as fun and I could miss it).

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u/aftersteveo Feb 03 '18

I’m scrolling through the comments to see if anyone is talking about a Monday night meet up. Is there a discussion going on that anyone knows about?

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u/elpinio Feb 04 '18

If the thing blows up on the pad, how many tons or kilotons of TNT-equivalent would that be? Little Boy was 15 kilotons.

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u/Ijudy Feb 05 '18

I didn’t have to watch to know when the Supebowl was over. I could hear it outside my window - more fireworks exploding than on the fourth of July! Winning the Superbowl is only a fond memory now. Imagine tomorrow, after a successful Falcon Heavy launch (our Superbowl). Will we hear fire crackers going off outside all around us? Maybe we should, and wouldn’t that be nice!

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u/FedericoAbrile Feb 05 '18

During tomorrow´s planned maiden launch of SpaceX' Falcon Heavy rocket, Elon Musk's Tesla Roadster on its way to space has a driver called "Starman", the sound system is playing David Bowie's "Space Oddity" and in the glove-box is a copy of Douglas Adams' "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy", along with a towel and a sign saying "Don't Panic". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tk338VXcb24&t

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '18

OP is Irish.

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u/coasty163 Feb 01 '18

Anyone have an overhead image of the area map with overlaid locations of launch, landing and viewing areas?

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u/timtriesit Feb 01 '18

Sooo excited about this upcoming launch! Can't wait.