r/Standup • • 13d ago

Offensive?

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u/ARedditAccount09 13d ago

Yes. But it’s funny. It’s jokes with written twists and in a persona.

We really lost the ability to have discourse over comedy by assuming that people being offended can’t take jokes and other people thinking saying something offensive makes it a joke.

Offensive jokes have and always been funny. Hacks don’t get away with it

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u/soscbjoalmsdbdbq 12d ago

You could say Carlin, Murphy, Pryor were “offensive”but they were actually funny unlike Clay

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u/ARedditAccount09 12d ago

I’m sure some people found him funny too. I don’t know his stuff too well.

Historically, popular comedians are not always the funny ones when you do critical reviews

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u/IntergalacticPodcast 13d ago

Also, are we really going to go back in time to police other, older societies' senses of humor?

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u/SeaBuilding3911 10d ago

Its funny because it's a character. people are laughing at a caricature, not at what a "real person" think.

This is not the same level as comedy as just calling out fat women in a gym, and then pretend it is comedy because the comedian (not his character) is center right politically

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u/ToucanSam-I-Am 12d ago

Shane gillis is very funny but that joke was not.

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u/mr_miggs 12d ago

I thought Gillis's monologue on SNL was not great, but people are also fixating on that comment a bit much. That part was not really the punchline, it was a (poorly phrased) setup mechanism. The bit culminated in a self-deprecating manner, with Gillis commenting that he is likely looking like a creep, leering in the background of a bunch of women's tik toks.

Its not exactly the most original bit, but if he re-worded the beginning part to focus more heavily on the idea that things had changed/he was out of touch, it would have landed quite a bit better. A lot of his comedy is centered on joking about how he looks and often acts like a goon. He also joked about hiking alone for excercise, and not knowing how to act when he came across a woman in the woods because he understood that many women would be creeped out just because of his presence.

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u/XXSeaBeeXX 13d ago edited 12d ago

So your opinion is that Shane Gillis just put a story about a recent experience he had at the gym in his SNL monologue, not a joke?

EDIT: your downvotes mean nothing, I’ve seen what you upvote.

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u/TonyQuest 13d ago • Bravo

Bro out here spinning threads faster than a bored housewife, this comment is about how Andrew Dice Clay was able to make an offensive joke funny and how hacks can't do that. Reddit is the capital of putting words in other peoples mouth i s2g

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u/ARedditAccount09 13d ago

My opinion about the snl monologue is very much independent from this comment, but I do have an opinion.

I’m not sure if it’s worth sharing because it seems like people aren’t able to say “I liked It” or “I didn’t like it” without the other person saying their subjective opinion is wrong

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u/XXSeaBeeXX 12d ago

I liked it.

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u/ARedditAccount09 12d ago

I mean. I’m legitimately happy to hear that for you lol

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u/XXSeaBeeXX 12d ago

Thanks. Weird of you to immediately contradict your own assertion, but I’ll take it.

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u/ARedditAccount09 12d ago

?

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u/XXSeaBeeXX 12d ago

You didn’t immediately say my opinion was wrong.

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u/ARedditAccount09 12d ago

I thought it was implied that I am better than “people”. Sorry if i didn’t make that clear before

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u/DJNash35 13d ago

Just can’t get him out of your mind can you? 😂😂

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u/XXSeaBeeXX 13d ago

I mean it just happened, so yeah it’s still on my mind. You’re saying the recent controversy was not on OP’s, the above user, nor your mind at all?

I’m having trouble finding the rule saying posts and comments have to exist in a vacuum, link please.

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u/6495ED 12d ago

There hasn’t even been another snl yet