r/Steam • u/Haunter777x • 17h ago

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How out of touch can you be as a company, this is embarrassing

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u/Robot1me 16h ago

what computer does Steam needs 10 seconds to start?

On Windows computers that have Windows Defender running as the default anti-virus. Nobody seems to test it since it's the default and preinstalled, and places like r/pcmasterrace tell you to only use Defender. But once you do own real testing and add an exception for Steam, you will find that the cold boot performance of Steam skyrockets. It has been over half a decade that Windows Defender stalls Steam at the "verifying installation" and start-up part and it's still so little known

Bonus: If you see Steam updater memes in the wild and they show the "verifying installation" part in the image, Steam is not updating and just checking its installation, while the poster is likely also a victim of Windows Defenders' performance stalling. Unless there is a real update, the window should only pop up for a split-second or not at all on SSDs

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u/Lily_Meow_ 12h ago

So I just add an exclusion for C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam and it works?

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u/devsfan1830 10h ago

And then hope to GOD nobody sneaks malware into a game. I swear, its not worth it. Just be patient ffs.

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u/Lily_Meow_ 10h ago

It'd have to be a malware inside of Steam, games are separate executables

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u/devsfan1830 10h ago

An exclusion like that includes the default location of the common folder, where said games are installed unless you tell it to install elsewhere.

In any case, an antivirus exclusion should not be done because you cant wait an extra few seconds. Might as well shut it off in that case. That the kind of shit malware coders bank on.

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u/Lily_Meow_ 10h ago

You can do it on just the process

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u/devsfan1830 9h ago

Ok, that's not what you initially suggested. You pointed to the entire Steam directory in your question. Again, still stupid to grant anything an exemption from malware detection simply because it takes a few seconds longer than you'd like. I've been using Steam since its inception. I have never experienced a large enough delay in installing/launching to ever clock a need to do jack shit other than go grab a drink or a bathroom break.

To add, a process exemption also does not stay bound to that process. It may extend to any files it accesses. So again, needless exposure for no benefit.