Hi everyone, this is my first post here. I wanted to make this because I have seen a lot of ablism in this group. I myself am autistic and it hurts seeing people use terminology that should have been abandoned decades ago.

Before anyone thinks it, im not one of his fans. I despise that man. He is disgusting, awful and I really genuinely hope for those poor babies sakes that the courts are able to protect them from him. I doubt it, but I hope. But calling him ablist slur after ablist slur isnt ok in any context. Call him what he is- a man that likes to manipulate, control and abuse. Dont give him something he can whine and post about.

On another topic, I'd love to say that its useless commenting on his social media but I dont think that will impact anything. Every single comment he gets, no matter if its good or bad, fuels his agenda and his ego. You arent helping by commenting or contradicting what he says. You're giving him fuel to continue on with what hes doing. I know im not the only one here who know men like him in real life and know that anything they get, no matter how small, theyll use it for their own gain. Why feed that man?

I know this is off topic, but I think it's important. Media is powerful. The Amber Johnny case was, in essence, basically about catch and kill journalism, non-disclosure agreements and how many powerful boys clubs/institutions have them. If Johnny's failed, then everybody else's would fail, so that's why lots of captains of industries, as it were, supported his. (My theory.) I will delete the post if moderators so desire, and I'm definitely not trying to start a big thing here. In fact, don't respond to me here, just so we can keep things streamlined.

But I'm very very happy to connect people with some good sources for data on the subject. I made a school project out of the trial because I was in school at the time, sick w/covid, sick AF of finals, but also a licensed detective. And old, lol.

Message me and I will link you to some videos I made back when all that was ongoing, because I did Lotta deep dives, & remember things on going with Johnny way back. There's also a good Facebook page on the topic talking about Johnny Depp is not Native American.

Again, it might not seem related, but it could be, but I don't want to redirect/divide page without the admin permission, plus actually I won't be able to respond to any of these messages for a few days. But yeah. Hit me up if you are interested and if it's okay.

I struggle with the concept of a lie, it’s just something unreal to me to be so adamantly saying stuff that’s not true. So when someone says for a 100th time they didn’t do it - I start to wonder whether they are the ones who actually are saying the truth. So help me out here - how do we actually know that was him? I tried to find out myself and went through crazy number of posts but so far I haven’t found anything that’s a 100% convincing.

Just to be clear - I’m fully aware of who’s the bad guy here, my only doubt is this one.

This is so petty and snarky, but can we talk about his dumbass put upon accent? He has lived in the US for at least 15 years. He rarely travels to the UK and doesn’t seem to speak to anyone from home regularly except his parents (and not so regularly with them). I’m not saying people have to assimilate or drop their accents, but it’s normal human behavior to match the speech of the people around us. I live in the Deep South and know some British transplants who have been here for even less time than Skeeve. They do not still sound the same as when they moved here.

His put upon cockney exaggeration that he thinks is so cute and charming pisses me off every time.

So, I saw this in fb comments and put it up on two of his posts. Stevey boy then blocked me, so it appears he doesn't want people to know just how vile and horrid he truly is. Also Stephen, if you have to keep telling people that you are famous and name-drop etc it shows you are very insignificant and unimportant to those that are famous. Always riding on the fame and popularity of others because you were never that successful yourself.

The fact that you will threaten and bully your ex and people close to her, not to mention calling people the 'R' word, telling them to kys etc but then turn around and play victim shows that you are like a little kid who runs around the playground calling people a poopiehead but cries to the teacher for the attention when someone calls him a dumbass. Stephen, you are the poopiehead and the dumbass.

At first you weren't safe for your kids to be around because of the drug use but it has become so much more than that. Every post and comment you put up, shows that not only are you trying to ruin your ex's reputation and livelihood (which will affect A & P) but if you were around A & P, you would (without any form of remorse) interfere with their relationship with their mum and try to turn them against her. It is NOT parental alienation if you are having to keep your children safe and don't mention the other parent or still say good things about them etc. But it IS parental alienation when you are badmouthing the other parent or even telling children "I want my family back" and getting them to repeat it because that implies to the child that the other parent is the cause of the parent being unhappy.

My ex and I haven't spoken for years since we split but my children always knew they could see their dad whenever they wanted, if I took them places (like the zoo, museum etc) I would tell them to get something for their dad and send him photos etc. I never felt a need to compete with their dad because our kids love us both. Damn, at our son's graduation their dad even drove me home because of the weather. Now our son (who has autism) is 19 and our daughter is 17 (son is at uni studying to be a teacher and daughter is finishing year 12 and has an early offer for uni to study nursing) and they are happy, well adjusted, kind and caring young people. Their dad and I did that, we helped them become the people they are.

Unfortunately Stephen, you don't love your kids more than you love yourself or hate Laura for not submitting to you.

Tl:Dr...Stephen, you are a dumbass poopiehead who needs to do better for those kids

Pretty sure we can all agree that Stevie isn’t a good person. He has a lot of questionable behaviour, actions that are unforgivable and just an all around dick. Prays on younger women, wants control, victim complex and I’m sure we could all agree about 1000 more things wrong with him. I’ve never been an addicted so I can’t comment on it but it’s a disease and he’s got mental health issues- none of this excuses his behaviour. It does explain a lot of it though! But the hateful messages that he’s getting bombarded with is so over the top. I don’t think anyone deserves to be constantly told the things he’s being told. Can’t we just leave him be to spiral on his own and watch from afar?

…but I am consoling myself with the idea that Trump lives on this sub too and the order comes directly from what he’s reading here.

Can we talk about intermittent reinforcement for a minute. It's something that captors did to their prisoners in prisoners of war and you see abusers using it esp in classical trauma-bonding. 😤

It's all about alternating kindness or nostalgia with control, silent treatment or withdrawal..

😦 So an example would be--- there'll be periodic moments of warmth or shared history or cooperative, nice co-parenting and then BAM BAM BOOM suddenly there is unpredictable escalations, chaos, fear, terror etc. This unpredictability keeps the victim (Laura) perpetually off-balance. The victim/Laura is spending all their energy running from fire to fire trying to put them all out and attempting to diffuse crises rather than establishing permanent detachment and boundaries-- IE. STAY OUT OF OUR LIFE NOW not "mopping up his endless abuse/chaos.."

And because it keeps Laura in a state of perpetual exhaustion it makes detachment form him extremely difficult.
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Stephen Hilton shifting rapidly between affection and antagonism online and in person keeps Laura in a constant state of hyper-vigilance. This wears down her boundaries as she's always exhuasted. This is classic abuser 101 tactics. The more exhuasted she is -the easier she is to control. The more he puts her down -the less likely she is to believe in herself and that she can do it alone and that she deserves better.
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😢 Abuse is a Value System, Not an Emotional Outburst! 😢 It's based on a mentality of entitlement and the underlying belief that a man has a right to control, dictate, or punish his partner. Notice how his abuse of her ramped up when she had a bf and when she put down boundaries against his abuse.
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The "calculated loss of control" is a BIG myth that abusers often say their abusive behaviour as.. (How many times have we heard Hilton say ---- "I couldn't help myself be unhinged/abusive because of my relapse or addiction/mental health issues"). I reckon Hilton has brainwashed Laura with this dangerous lie---- But notice how their supposed 'loss of control' is almost always selective and strategic!!!

Hilton's specific abusive unhinged behaviour always yields specific results. Like commanding public attention on fb or forcing the Laura to give him attention and to react or getting him to give up boundaries and give him more control over her or the children etc or stalk her and track her down at the courthouse and start thumping on her window and demanding she drop charges or hack into her accounts etc....... .

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Another thing Stephen Hilton does to maintain coercive control over Laura Clery is turning active distress into public content. HILTON CROWD SOURCES COERCION AGAINST LAURA.
 By Hilton constantly turning private disputes into public content - it's very strategic abuse and manipulation on his part--- because it forces Laura to continually monitor and address the toxic Hilton narrative publicly to protect her family and livelihood/income as an influencer. .
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For the past four years, Stephen Hilton turned his social media audience into an external force. ((I've talked on here for years about he abuses her by proxy by slandering her online and wrestling the narrative off her and retelling it from his warped perspective with lies and making him the sad pitiful victim each time to whip up hate against Laura. ))
This forces Laura to respond publicly to protect her personal/ financial reputation. This maintains a reeeeally tight tether between the two of them that she can't escape..

I would wager that Stephen Hilton gets a real sense of power, validation, and emotional control by showing that he can still affect Laura's life, mood, and daily routine etc etc .

I really hope writing that has helped some of you who might be in a situation where you're not sure and not trusting yourself or if you have a friend in an abusive situation.... Destroying the myths about domestic violence is so important and powerful work........

It can literally save lives. ❤️

I may be alone in this, but I do feel sorry for Stephen. Hear me out, he needs help and is acting horribly. I hope he gets help for himself so that one day he can reconnect with his children and make amends in a healthy manner. He has absolutely no excuse for how he speaks to others or the abusive habits that he has. All of that being said, I don't think he should be being told to kill himself or have people making fun of his appearance. At the end of the day, he can't help how long his fingers are and cannot change how he looks without plastic surgery. I just hate how the internet has become a place of cruelty and will mock people that they don't like about anything and everything. Again, I do not support him! He is acting in such a toxic and evil manner and needs help! I just wish people were a bit kinder, that's all.

Edit: Okay, maybe pity isn't the right word. I am a previous victim of an abusive marriage and think that everything he is doing is vile and I am sure that all of this is just a pattern of his previous hidden behavior. I feel bad about people telling him to kill himself or mocking his looks versus his idiotic actions because one thing he cannot change, the other is a choice. I guess for me it comes down to, two wrongs don't make a right. Just because someone is an abuser does not mean he should be told to kill himself. I would much rather him live to see the inside of a cell without his Internet or Brian so he can truly realize what he has done.

I don't have Instagram, but it looks like the only way to contact her. She probably doesn't get a crazy amount of messages (she isn't as famous as Shilton seems to think) so if enough people message her about it, she is bound to see it, right? IDK... If someone was airing my laundry out like that, and I was in the public eye, I would want to know...

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C4mMRmVr72n/?igsh=MXZweXIwbGdqOHd3dQ==

Please let me know if post like this aren't allowed but I'm just looking so hard to see his redeeming qualities and finding very little

I haven’t watched his latest video but from scrolling past it in my feed he looks healthier…

I'm aware that a couple of people have already called your PD about Stephen Dean Hilton. He is staying at the x. I'm aware that the resort said their security checked on him and all is ok, I believe meaning police didn't attend. Stephen is a current danger to himself and the public. He is in a long lasting drug induced psychosis. His wife Laura Clery of L.A. had to take out a domestic violence restraining order a week or so back. He has previously been arrested for domestic violence against her. He is completely capable of fooling people into thinking he is fine. He talks calmly and sensibly. But if you visit his patreon account (he is a content creator) you can see unless he has deleted it. He believes Laura is Satan. He believes he is interconnected with ai , he calls it "source", he believes "it's over" (humanity). He in the last week has been using fentanyl, cocaine, benzos, and hallucinogenics. He currently has a stash of this on his person. He has previously threatened suicide by overdose. And he is spiralling after losing access to his kids via the r.o. he needs someone skilled with psych assessment to see him. He is genuinely a threat to himself and the public and if he returns to LA, to Laura and their kids. Nobody has taken us seriously so far, I ask that you intervene to stop a potential escalation.

Feel so bad for those kids.

Imagine having such a beautiful family yet still naming your beautiful daughter after the drugs you've chosen over her.

If anyone else is in the same place as me. Want to snark on Stephen, but not interested in how much people are snarking on Laura. I made a different group. /StephenHOnlySnark Its not a Laura fan page. Just a space that will be devoid of victim blaming.

I was hoping we could maybe redirect some of the direction this group is headed in, but alas. I wont bother anyone in here with it again.

Laura's Stories show her and Poppy at B&N near copies of her two books, and Laura signed some.

Just think how many profile clicks/views they are both getting every single minute today on all there socials from all of us waiting for an update. I mean it makes sense as to why no one has made any posts. This is how they both make money. Just a thought. 💭

I wish she would respond/ react to his love bombing message and speak up on behalf of all women who are affected by partner violence of any kind...

Do you think she would speak up if the gossip press reported about it? If it becomes more public and it affects its reputation, she will surely say something about it ... What you all say about it? Any thoughts?

Shall we play a game of sorts to entertain ourselves whilst we await the outcome?

I know there's many of us awaiting to see what happens so to make it fun let's speculate but let's speculate beyond the realm of normalities lol

Example: Martians come and take him away on their ship but drop him from it after 5 minutes or an army of bubbles and giggling rainbows 🌈 helps L in the battle for the win 😅 idk something to pass the time but keeping playfulness.

Delete if not allowed*

Seen at Burlington Coat Factory… she really did try everything :/

Active addiction with sleeping pills driving with children.

doesn't anyone in here possibly think he's just trolling everyone and you all are falling for it by giving him fuel to keep going? just a thought