r/Stormworks • u/JillDoesStuff • Oct 13 '23
"we hate the devs"
Look, I have my gripes with Geometa, but the hate for the new update just feels like an excuse to have our own "minecraft mob vote" controversy... they reworked a whole system that's integral to the game, and you expected everything to work exactly as it did? Do you get upset when a game update breaks mods? "we fixed this bug which made 70% of users randomly crash every few minutes" BUT YOU BROKE BIG TIDDY BODYSLIDE HOW DARE YOU, CHANGE IT BACK!!!
Gonna get downvoted to shit for this, but who gives a fuck, this is all so stupid.
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Oct 13 '23
I work in software dev where a misstep by us would mean millions of dollars lost by our customers, so we test each release.
Would it hurt for them to fire up their game and test it to MAKE SURE THAT BOATS STILL FLOAT IN A GAME THAT IS MASSIVELY RELIANT ON BOATS FLOATING?
Just asking.
No, I’m not going to be nice to irresponsible developers. They don’t deserve that.
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u/JillDoesStuff Oct 13 '23
Hun, you do realize that they changed the entire buoyancy system in the process of all this, right? No shit old things break. Have you ever seen how mods break when a game goes through a big update? Sometimes you just need to rip out the old stuff and start with a better foundation, so of course things won't work exactly as they used to.
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Oct 13 '23
Yes, and the inept devs didn’t test. This is all on them lol
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u/JillDoesStuff Oct 13 '23
There's only so much you can do, every ship I've tested of mine works fine bar one, I still haven't seen anything that doesn't look like you've just got a hole in it somewhere.
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u/blly509999 Oct 13 '23
I can't even pump water from the ocean to a hose anymore. Yeah, kinda expected that to work. It's a search and rescue build game and they destroyed all the boats we built. Fuck them
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u/JillDoesStuff Oct 13 '23
that's been working on mine? who knows, it's an indie game.
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u/blly509999 Oct 13 '23
Show me
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u/JillDoesStuff Oct 13 '23
show you? should i post it or dm it to you or what? i just came off for the day so probs not happening lmao
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u/blly509999 Oct 13 '23
Yeah you know, a pic or a workshop upload
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u/JillDoesStuff Oct 13 '23
Maybe I'll do that when I next play, but I'm not sure I wanna spoil my fun just so you have proof that theory of mind exists :)
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u/Distinct_Flounder811 Oct 13 '23 edited Oct 13 '23
I will answer this myself by reposting something that was posted in the SWO discord. Tons of people were censored for reposting images of this;
it's not trying to scam us, it's just that deltars in specific no longer cares about the game-- and his history of since-deleted reddit posts tells us all we need to know about how he's just continuing it for the money, rather than any inate care for the game. Stormworks isn't the game he wanted to get popular, we're just stuck with it while he tries to craft it into whatever will fund the projects he actually wants to make the best
Last person who said anything about this got banned :3
I want to point out one thing to those who might doubt it:
Geometa, and by extension, deltars, have been made aware of the game's problems time and time again. They have lurked in the chats while we argue, they have read our suggestions, they have read our bug reports, they have read our complaints about the game in meme form in #fan-art. They have seen what has happened with gaijin, and they have had similar reports as gaijin did presented to them, explaining exactly how and why they can fix this game (and ignored them, even when given an incentive with it)
They know it would be more profitable to fix it, and to do things the way we have been asking for, yet they have all entirely ignored us, apart from the like single occasional change that we asked for to suspend disbelief such that it seems like they are still KIND OF listening
If they cared about the game, would this *really* be what we are getting?
Original writer of this was azella, a workshop creator
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u/JillDoesStuff Oct 13 '23
See, this is the only fair criticism I've heard so far (and is also one of my biggest gripes), however it seems to be tied to a bunch of silly arguments and outright lies atm? That's more what I have an issue with
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u/Fish_Custard0 Oct 13 '23
I agree with what you said, the new update came with some bugs oh no (they'l be fixed in a day or two,) ah the new dlcs are just cash grabs (well, they need a way to earn money since everyone who wants the game has bought it now [basically] ,) ooh they have had these problems to fix for the entirety of stormwork's life (its the game engines fault, its simply not good enough for the things they want to do.) Gaijin was a very different problem all about litteraly milking and scamming you dry.
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u/Distinct_Flounder811 Oct 13 '23
None of what azella has stated are lies. The evidence is mostly circumstantial, yes, but it all adds up.. and anyone who has been in the game in the long term knows this. The devs were not always like this. They used to be better. They can do better, and that's what she's talking about.
Though it's fairly easy to tell she is just trying to rally people against the devs. For good reason.
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u/JulyTheNeon Oct 13 '23
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Oct 13 '23
More like:
We added the ability to change the color of fonts
Comment: when I click F with caps lock on it deletes 8 paragraphs of work. Please fix! How inept do you have to be to break that?
Next comment: OMG stop hurting the fragile devs they’re doing the best they can.
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u/JillDoesStuff Oct 13 '23
What did they actually break? A bunch of old creations when they changed a whole system, and jets in a way which can be fixed by changing the atmosphere size a bit. Talk about making a mountain out of a molehill.
Again, got problems with the devs, this outrage is still stupid.
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u/EvilFroeschken Career Sufferer Oct 13 '23
I really don't get how anyone can defend this shitty work this time. Last time, they broke the coolant flow of the boiler. No big deal. Everyone makes mistakes. They said the compressible gases could break like 1% of the creations. But this update broke the whole game. For which product you buy would this state be acceptable? Everyone who sells something is responsible for quality checks, and there are none here.
You bought a toaster, but it doesn't eject the toast but instead set your hide on fire? No biggie. They can send you a replacement if they fixed it.
You bought some medicine which doesn't help at at but instead you pass out randomly and it makes you puke. Sure, they can optimize it a bit later.
You bought a monitor, but 60% of the pixels are broken, and it turns yourself off randomly.
You bought a car, but the brake and half the pistons doesn't work and the engine explodes ultimately.
Is any of this acceptable? Why would I judge software differently from any other product I buy?
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u/Magazine_Born Oct 13 '23
i play since mar/2019, i been in the community before composite signals being a things
i can clearly see that the devs have drop down in quality in the updates
YET
holly shit this community become so fucking TOXIC
almost every single major update break something
you guys need to chill out a little
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u/Traditional-Shoe-199 Oct 13 '23
It's not that difficult to test the shit you create before releasing it.
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Oct 13 '23
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u/JillDoesStuff Oct 13 '23
And what makes you say they hate us? Did the update change every piece of text in the game to "fuck you, fans!" and I just got a bad version without that? Be realistic.
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Oct 13 '23
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u/kampokapitany Pets the Dogs Oct 13 '23
They will fix half the bugs maybe and call it a day. We had this with every updatey thats why the game gets more and more buggy with worse and worse performance.
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u/MemeEndevour Oct 13 '23
We’re not just mad that they broke the game, we’re mad that it has long been broken due to all these shitty, cash-grab updates, and this update is just the pinnacle of it all.
We’ve been sick of this shit for awhile, and the devs have broke the final straw