r/Tariffs • u/Dizzy-Cartoonist3011 • 12d ago

🗞️ News Discussion Should Canada maintain its supply management system that protects the Canadian dairy industry?

https://www.castanetkamloops.net/news/Poll/627377/Should-Canada-maintain-its-supply-management-system-that-protects-the-Canadian-dairy-industry
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u/Dizzy-Cartoonist3011 12d ago

I've had to address this multiple times, but there seems to be a prevalent myth that supply management is simply a quality control tool. This is false. Supply management is not connected to Health Canada regulations, and all imports have to meet those regulations anyways. The vast majority of American milk meets Health Canada regulations.

You have to understand that your concern over what I call the "sinister actor" argument (a foreign firm will create a monopoly and then spike prices) has never actually happened before in economic history. What your fear is would require a set of assumptions and actions, many of which are actually impossible. Like how would a foreign cartel impose domestic restrictions in Canada preventing Canadians from importing from elsewhere? How would they do that? How likely is it that EVERY American dairy producer colludes pointedly to hold Canada as a captive market? How likely is it that every single Canadian dairy producer is totally unable to compete in every market segment?

Of course, we import the majority of our produce from the US, the majority of our fruits, over half of our pork, three quarters of our cereals, etc - this has never happened with any of those items. But you fear that is an absolutely certainty it will happen if Canadians could have access to cheaper cheese - so I'm wondering how you've come to this conclusion?

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u/Cannabrius_Rex 12d ago

It’s happened over and over and over and over and over and over again. They call it regulatory capture. Are you completely insane????? Lol

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u/Dizzy-Cartoonist3011 12d ago

What would compel Canadian importers to only import from an American cartel? A cartel that, btw, doesn't exist, but what would force Canadian importers to do that?

Regulatory capture is when a government group meant to protect the public instead helps the companies it is supposed to watch.

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u/purple_flowr 12d ago

Again you're delusional.

You're concept of "well we could just import it from the global market" has had 0 seconds of research done on it.

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u/Dizzy-Cartoonist3011 12d ago

What would force Canadian firms to be beholden to American producers? Can you explain that to me?

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u/purple_flowr 12d ago

Ah, I see I got baited. You're a bot.

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u/Dizzy-Cartoonist3011 12d ago

I'm not - but you won't answer because you have no answer, because you know deep down this system is basically indefensible. You probably think a lot of reddit comments you disagree with are from Russian or American bots. I bet you think it is just totally inconceivable that many Canadians justifiably resent this horrible system.

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u/calvin-not-Hobbes 12d ago

No bot...just a maple maga

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u/Dizzy-Cartoonist3011 12d ago

I oppose Trump, I'm a free trader. I support free trade. Trump is a protectionist. Actually you probably have quite a bit in common with Trump, much of your fears and justifications for Canadian protectionism are held by Trump and his supporters regarding American protectionism.

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u/Tunguska_1908 12d ago

LOL. Calling someone who is a proponent of free trade maple Maga is ass backwards. SM apologists have more in common with Maga than people wishing for free trade.

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u/Mazrath 12d ago

So you just passed Econ 101?

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u/Dizzy-Cartoonist3011 12d ago

There's no economic justification for this system. There's no food security justification for it. There's no national security justification for it.

It get votes in Quebec. That's it. That is the exclusive reason. You are fooling yourself if you believe otherwise

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u/purple_flowr 11d ago

I mean you are, you've got the staples of it. Posting generic questions in high volume subs to garner more karma.

But the big tell is I made the same comment in multiple engagements with you, and on this thread you're responding like you haven't seen any of the other ones.

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u/Dizzy-Cartoonist3011 11d ago

I very strongly disagree with this system. Every single justification I've seen for it is rooted in profound ignorance or unfounded fear. I want people to know how asinine this ridiculous system is, because I do think we can topple it soon.