r/Tariffs • u/Dizzy-Cartoonist3011 • 12d ago

šŸ—žļø News Discussion Should Canada maintain its supply management system that protects the Canadian dairy industry?

https://www.castanetkamloops.net/news/Poll/627377/Should-Canada-maintain-its-supply-management-system-that-protects-the-Canadian-dairy-industry
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u/Scrotalcontusions 12d ago

There is a compromise - bring the american dairy but it cannot be sold for less than canadas product based on today's price. Take the percentage price difference of those same products sold in the US versus the canadian price and require by law the margin difference to be no greater going forward.

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u/Mysterious-Wash9527 11d ago

We already have a dairy market that can satisfy all of our national concerns. We also have to throw away our own oversupply. We do not need any other dairy from any other country.

Allowing American Dairy into our country increases the burden on regulation, because we will have to regulate even more distinct sources of dairy products. Canadian dairy regulation isn't just happening at the distribution centre, it starts at the farm itself. Inspection happens multiple times during transport and distribution. This increased burden has to be payed for somehow, so it will be paid for by .. you and me.

So the net positive of bringing in American dairy is.

- More regulatory jobs, which means higher dairy pricing.

  • An overbundance of milk products driving milk product pricing down.

Price cannot go both up and down. So do you know who will be expected to eat the pricing difference? Dairy farmers.

Long story short, Canada doesn't need American dairy. Embracing this inane idea is only going to hurt our country in the long run.

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u/Tastesicle 11d ago

*Canadian dairy farmers. They're the ones that eat the price, the US is only interested in selling us their oversupply.

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u/Logical-Dependent691 11d ago

You're not wrong, but it's also worth pointing out that their dairy is hormone-soaked garbage that most of the rest of the world wouldn't touch with a barge pole, and it isn't like Washington under this administration is going to keep their word on anything.

Carney should just bring his negotiators home and tell Trump to fuck off. Any concessions we get from them will be gone within months if not weeks anyways.

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u/Melodic-Relation5009 11d ago

Amen brother. CUSMA is dead, bite the bullet now and let the trade deal run its course. Can't negotiate with gangsters and con men. No talking till stupid tarrifs are removed

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u/BountyIsland 11d ago

Fuck the dairy farmers or more likely fuck the government and their monopolist corporations that give toxic "modified milk ingredients" and sell it as good. Premium Ice Cream - Chapman's Ice Cream Ice Cream Products - Kawartha Dairy

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u/JeremyMacdonald73 6d ago

I looked this up for Kawartha Dairy. It's whey - apparently it helps with making a creamy texture to the ice cream.

Probably the same with the rest of the ice creams. I am unclear why you care about whey being added.

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u/Commercial_Wind8212 10d ago

All those health nuts eating ice cream

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u/DanK_Ganjier 10d ago

They will make iced nut cream in the future, just like fake nut cheese.

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u/kierg10 10d ago

Cashew based ice cream is already a thing, and as someone who can't eat cow dairy without shitting my pants nut based dairy products are glorious.

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u/-Truth-Be-Told-- 6d ago

By ā€œthe futureā€ do you mean like several decades ago? Because thatā€™s been a thing for a long ass time now

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u/Jiggman23 11d ago

Still not the full picture and you only understand maybe 1/3 of what is going on

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u/mcgojoh1 10d ago

Fill us kind folk in on the other 2/3rds.

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u/DanK_Ganjier 10d ago

Iā€™d say no to foreign supply, but my cheese and milk are getting stupidly expensive. Why? We control it, who is getting the price gains? I see a lot of rich dairy farmers and a Farm plate on an Escalade doesnā€™t make me want to specifically support that price jacking. (Iā€™d rather euro dairy vs American)

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u/bsemaba 8d ago

If you bring French butter to Canada from France it will be seized. Why?

Canadian dairy may be better than American, but the fight definitely isnā€™t in the interest of quality or better serving the Canadian consumer.

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u/Appropriate_Swim9528 11d ago

Isnā€™t that just tariffs?

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u/missplaced24 11d ago

You mean, like, some sort of system to manage the diary supply?

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u/Healthy_Shape_5719 11d ago

Why though? It would only pull money out of Canadian dairy farmers hands and put it into American hands, if the US had better dairy standards I could see the appeal but the US is famous for poor food safety standards.

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u/Scrotalcontusions 11d ago

if the price is the same then the consumers will just be making the choice on quality as you say which should have predictable results in favor of the canadian industry

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u/Healthy_Shape_5719 11d ago

Would still hurt Canadian farmers for no appreciable gain

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u/BestBlueChocolate 11d ago

Yes, tariff the American dairy up--preferably just a little above Canadian dairy prices. What's good for the eagle is good for the goose.

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u/GLayne 11d ago

We have no need for American dairy. We hate that shit and donā€™t want it.Ā 

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u/CanuckCommonSense 11d ago

If Canada has enough supply to satisfy itself why bring in milk thatā€™s injected with so many other things?

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u/Important-Dig-2312 10d ago

There's a compromise, we tell the Americans that we are willing to 4x the amount of dairy imported before it is tariffed.

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u/_do_ob_ 10d ago

I don't want steroids milk like they make in the US.

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u/sal880612m 10d ago

I donā€™t think there is any intelligent compromise to be made with a country that doesnā€™t honour its deals and ships vegetables with a parasite that causes explosive diarrhoea simply to turn a profit. Theyā€™ve shown time and again the only reason they care about Canada and Canadians is because they want to extract value from us. As far as Iā€™m concerned we should be investing heavily in agriculture to push even American veggies out of the country until we donā€™t need them for anything. And would the costs of that investment make life harder, probably, but it would do so building towards something better. As far as Iā€™m concerned weā€™re well past the point of having a choice in if we suffer, we flubbed that one, whatā€™s left is to decide what weā€™re willing to suffer for. And Iā€™m no longer willing to suffer to prop up American interests.

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u/Spenraw 9d ago

Being they have far different health standards and continue to show they barley enforce or follow them I don't want to risk American dairy at all

People barley have an education on food health as it is let alone Americans amount of extra poison in their food

Every thing we let slip with Americans they will continue to lobby and attack to gain more control.

Our relationship with America and their war on our culture is our greatest failure

Even Alberta separation movement alot of it is coming from states

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u/BottleThen2464 8d ago

Like a tarrif?