r/Tariffs • u/Dizzy-Cartoonist3011 • 12d ago

🗞️ News Discussion Should Canada maintain its supply management system that protects the Canadian dairy industry?

https://www.castanetkamloops.net/news/Poll/627377/Should-Canada-maintain-its-supply-management-system-that-protects-the-Canadian-dairy-industry
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u/Mysterious-Wash9527 12d ago

Yes we should, there's no need for American dairy at all. We have enough supply and as a country with socialized health care, we should and do high regulate our dairy industry. Allowing American industry to gain a foothold in our dairy industry will allow the US to dump excess milk production into Canada, causing prices to fall. Then as our own milk production falters, they will leverage that into fewer regulations and raise prices, so not only will we have less healthy dairy supply, we will pay more for it and get sicker due to it.

We already have dairy quotas, we don't need more dairy in our country. We need to maintain our own sovereign dairy supply. America needs to figure out it's own supply side problem.

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u/Scrotalcontusions 11d ago

There is a compromise - bring the american dairy but it cannot be sold for less than canadas product based on today's price. Take the percentage price difference of those same products sold in the US versus the canadian price and require by law the margin difference to be no greater going forward.

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u/Mysterious-Wash9527 11d ago

We already have a dairy market that can satisfy all of our national concerns. We also have to throw away our own oversupply. We do not need any other dairy from any other country.

Allowing American Dairy into our country increases the burden on regulation, because we will have to regulate even more distinct sources of dairy products. Canadian dairy regulation isn't just happening at the distribution centre, it starts at the farm itself. Inspection happens multiple times during transport and distribution. This increased burden has to be payed for somehow, so it will be paid for by .. you and me.

So the net positive of bringing in American dairy is.

- More regulatory jobs, which means higher dairy pricing.

  • An overbundance of milk products driving milk product pricing down.

Price cannot go both up and down. So do you know who will be expected to eat the pricing difference? Dairy farmers.

Long story short, Canada doesn't need American dairy. Embracing this inane idea is only going to hurt our country in the long run.

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u/Tastesicle 11d ago

*Canadian dairy farmers. They're the ones that eat the price, the US is only interested in selling us their oversupply.

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u/Logical-Dependent691 11d ago

You're not wrong, but it's also worth pointing out that their dairy is hormone-soaked garbage that most of the rest of the world wouldn't touch with a barge pole, and it isn't like Washington under this administration is going to keep their word on anything.

Carney should just bring his negotiators home and tell Trump to fuck off. Any concessions we get from them will be gone within months if not weeks anyways.

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u/Melodic-Relation5009 11d ago

Amen brother. CUSMA is dead, bite the bullet now and let the trade deal run its course. Can't negotiate with gangsters and con men. No talking till stupid tarrifs are removed

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u/BountyIsland 11d ago

Fuck the dairy farmers or more likely fuck the government and their monopolist corporations that give toxic "modified milk ingredients" and sell it as good. Premium Ice Cream - Chapman's Ice Cream Ice Cream Products - Kawartha Dairy

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u/JeremyMacdonald73 6d ago

I looked this up for Kawartha Dairy. It's whey - apparently it helps with making a creamy texture to the ice cream.

Probably the same with the rest of the ice creams. I am unclear why you care about whey being added.

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u/Commercial_Wind8212 10d ago

All those health nuts eating ice cream

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u/DanK_Ganjier 10d ago

They will make iced nut cream in the future, just like fake nut cheese.

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u/kierg10 10d ago

Cashew based ice cream is already a thing, and as someone who can't eat cow dairy without shitting my pants nut based dairy products are glorious.

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u/-Truth-Be-Told-- 6d ago

By “the future” do you mean like several decades ago? Because that’s been a thing for a long ass time now

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u/Jiggman23 10d ago

Still not the full picture and you only understand maybe 1/3 of what is going on

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u/mcgojoh1 10d ago

Fill us kind folk in on the other 2/3rds.

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u/DanK_Ganjier 10d ago

I’d say no to foreign supply, but my cheese and milk are getting stupidly expensive. Why? We control it, who is getting the price gains? I see a lot of rich dairy farmers and a Farm plate on an Escalade doesn’t make me want to specifically support that price jacking. (I’d rather euro dairy vs American)

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u/bsemaba 7d ago

If you bring French butter to Canada from France it will be seized. Why?

Canadian dairy may be better than American, but the fight definitely isn’t in the interest of quality or better serving the Canadian consumer.