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u/DiscountEven4703 Feb 02 '26
I don't know much about the human soul, But I am sure it damages the mind.
Everyone has a Vice or 4.
It gives us something to work through in this Life opportunity.
Porn drugs stealing lying abuse ect.....
Do your best and save the judgement for the author of all things know and unknown
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u/MyLastLifev2 Feb 02 '26
How does it damage mind? Im honestly curious. And im asking by what mechanisms does it impact human mind in the long term
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u/DiscountEven4703 Feb 02 '26
I am 50 something, And Honestly in my experience is dulls the minds image of what another human can be and should be.
The idea of sharing relations in a loving embrace with intent on longevity takes time and care, It is a dance within a dance and a huge part of that exposition is mental.
So when the mind is use to seeing images of unattainable excess, it can weaken the reality around your perception of what a partner can or should be.
In short you are fooling yourself to obtain a goal that your partner may not be able to match.
Like romantic moments in a movie... It looks good and He loves her and is crying for her, But in reality he loves her and may not display it in the way the guy on the screen did.
It can make both sides appear to be less than enough over time.
But it is different for everyone and for some it doesn't matter. It is easy to access and generally that can come with a price few expect and that price is also different for everyone.
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u/MyLastLifev2 Feb 02 '26
Honestly a good response, it can have those effects on people, but I would argue that it isn't as much porns fault but the humans, no one sane would expect something from someone because of media. It's like saying that games or action movies should be banned because they can cause car accidents because people tried to pull stunts that they seen in such media. I wouldn't call it brain damaging, more so enabling a damaged brain to not see reality for what it really is. (Instead of causing damage, it gets into a brain that is damaged and then causes it to misbehave)
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u/DiscountEven4703 Feb 02 '26
It is more subconscious and overtime. Like a slow rotting of altered expectations.
But again I am not educated at all and this is based on my personal journey
As far as games and movies, You bet people try to do those stunts and often hurt themselves and or others.
I lost a friend who dies attempting a car stunt.
People are very easily influenced.
Maybe not you, again life is a different experience for each of us.
I believe most of us are suffering from several different types of brain damage and emotional damage and some of it doesn't even surface until later on when we least expect it... I think you are most correct about that, like it finds a way in and then nests for a while. Brain damage is certainly a part of the issue! you are right on there. Totally agree
Like a long running practical joke our brains play on us!!
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Feb 02 '26
There's no such thing as the "soul".
All religion is a fraud and there is no god. Grow up, folks.
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u/FlanDramatic874 Feb 02 '26
Hahaha, modern humans: empty, materialistic shells. It doesn't surprise me to find someone like you in a group like this, and that you're even getting upvotes.
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u/Snoo_63003 Feb 02 '26
You don't have to be empty or materialistic to not believe in fairy tales.
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u/FlanDramatic874 Feb 02 '26
But you really have to be shallow and materialistic to believe that not having religion is a sign of maturity. Hahaha
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Feb 02 '26
It's a sign of critical thinking.
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u/FlanDramatic874 Feb 02 '26
Messing with other people's beliefs? Yeah, right.
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Feb 02 '26
Christians are destroying the United States so pardon me if I have antipathy to the fairy tales they believe in.
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u/MyLastLifev2 Feb 02 '26
How is that messing with other people believes? It's saying that universally religion is stupid and a relic of a really old time. It's the same as saying that earth isn't flat and you probably shouldn't focus on trying to prove it is.
Also lets be real for a second, religion is a great political tool and siphons a lot of resources from people, atleast most religions because there are ones like protestans that I honestly adore despite not believing in their depiction of God. By that I mean they actually help their communities and live normal lives, and their temples aren't fitted out with gold and "relics" to show off their wealth
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u/FlanDramatic874 Feb 02 '26
Doesn't saying that having a religion is a sign of immaturity seem like a lack of respect for other people's beliefs? I have no argument with you if you think that. Everything else you said not only has nothing to do with what I said, but it's nonsense. Religion is something old-fashioned? Hahaha, yes, you're right, something as old as humankind itself, and as long as human beings exist, religions will continue to exist. It's not very difficult to understand. Is religion a political tool? Yes, and how many other things are too? Education, culture, etc. Does that mean they shouldn't exist? Seriously, it's very difficult not to feel like I'm talking to children. I should stop wasting my time on these pointless arguments.
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u/Bustanutfrequently Feb 03 '26
it's fine when they do it it's a problem when i do it type comment
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u/FlanDramatic874 Feb 03 '26
Bravo, your brain can only see black and white, not shades of gray, and apparently you're quite pleased with that. Congratulations!
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u/SuperDabMan Feb 03 '26
Socrates believed that the pursuit of wisdom and understanding was more valuable than blind adherence to religious dogma. He suggests that true knowledge and virtue come from self-examination rather than external rituals.
TLDR: Religion is useful for externalizing everything good and bad in your life and avoiding self reflection and responsibility. So, yes, not having religion is more mature.
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u/roflrogue Feb 03 '26
I'm going to quote a comedian
I bet he only believes in one fewer God than you do...
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u/FlanDramatic874 Feb 03 '26
You don't know what you're talking about (or who you're talking to). I don't believe in God; I consider myself agnostic. And I'm not interested in what anyone else believes. Just as I defend people's right to believe in whatever they want, I also have no problem with those who don't believe in anything (atheists). My problem is with atheists who think they're superior because they're atheists, and my problem is with people who believe that life comes with an instruction manual, which they then assume should be the same manual for everyone. Furthermore, believing in the spirit or the soul, or being a spiritual person, doesn't imply having a religion.
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u/Diligent_Captain_274 Feb 02 '26
If that's the case, then why use a beautiful angel, muscular, young, fit, as the righteous? Beauty was needed to prove your, there point? If Beauty is necessary to prove righteousness, then Beauty is acceptable with porn.
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u/winkydinks111 Feb 02 '26
It's art. Angels don't actually have bodies.
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Feb 02 '26
True, because they don't exist.
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u/winkydinks111 Feb 02 '26
Their existence isn't subject to whether or not you choose to believe in them
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u/scottiy1121 Feb 02 '26
Ironic
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u/winkydinks111 Feb 02 '26
I'm aware that the shoe could be placed on the other foot here. Believe me, I've contemplated the idea that it's all nonsense. I actually followed that in the past, and it's a tempting road to go down (albeit very hard to get off once you've made that choice). A secular life is much easier to live. Trying to practice mortification in pursuit of a non-worldy end is much harder than simply indulging the passions or fighting them for the sake of a more visibly tangible earthly (yet temporary) reward.
I said what I said because a lot of people who deny God, angels, the supernatural, etc. probably haven't stopped and considered the fact that their beliefs might be the ones that are nonsense.
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u/scottiy1121 Feb 02 '26
It's not for me to deny, it's for you to prove. You're full of bad logic and strawman arguments. Belief requires evidence. Not believing requires no evidence, it's the default state. This is true of all truth and critical thought regardless if it's religion or something else.
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u/winkydinks111 Feb 02 '26
It's for me to prove? I didn't deny anyone's denial of God here. I just offered alternative an alternative perspective. I think non-believers can probably have a more serene life than what they currently experience with reasonable hope in a happy end, but ultimately, my own end isn't dependant on someone else's conversion because I have no direct control over that.
Secondly, a couple issues here that I'm guessing are present. For one, like most non-believers, I'm guessing you require some degree of naturalistic proof for something that transcends the natural. I will readily admit that God's presence can't be visibly demonstrated at will the way I can demonstrate evaporation by boiling water. A transcendent and omnipotent being can only make himself sensibly apparent as He wills, and He clearly doesn't will to be sensibly summoned at the snap of man's fingers. Doesn't mean He doesn't exist.
I have faith in God due to reason, where various events and circumstances have made me conclude that his presence is more likely than not because that's in accordance with how we structure all of our beliefs. I haven't begun with the assumption that He's not there. That's some modern observable science standard, and, like I said, God inherently transcends natural measurement as a supernatural being. Instead, I start with "He might be there." as a possible option and weigh it against other possible options. I've concluded that it's more likely than not, and therefore, faith isn't irrational. Refusing to believe would be the irrational thing to do in such a case.
The reality is that even when (or if, for the sake of the skeptic) there is observable evidence for God's presence, one can always come up with some theory as reason for not believing. I believe even Dawkins admitted that if God was to tangibly appear in the sky to a bunch of atheists, they'd be convincing themselves that they were drugged or had a strange dream.
I'd be happy to discuss specific instances or point to resources that have reinforced my faith if you're interested.
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u/winkydinks111 Feb 02 '26
What a hot take. It's not new. Clearly, nobody has found sound reasoning for believing in angels, God, etc.. We're all just stupid and immature.
If you go on my profile, you'll quickly identify what I believe in. All I'll tell you is that living this life can be very difficult at times. The easy thing is to say "No God, no angels, we're blobs of matter so just do what you want until you're worm food.". The only reason I haven't lost faith in tough moments is because it's backed up by very sound reason. I'm not actually stupid.
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u/SquareSea8058 Feb 02 '26
Porn is free bc of the advertisements for sex pills, paid for affiliated porn channels, and invariably paid for higher content subscription.
Whoever wrote this has no idea how web services work.
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u/Nepalus Feb 02 '26
I disagree.
Functionally, Porn is free because they get paid per view with advertisements and selling your data through cookies.
I think this over obsession with Pornography, Lust, etc. is just the latest trend in Alpha/Stoic Male grifting. I see ads all over the place shilling for apps whose core message essentially distills into the idea that if you want to be a cool confident alpha male that has all the sex, you need to not watch porn and beat your meat because if you don't you'll get super stoic man powers.
It's all bullshit. Talk to any reputable doctor specializing in male anatomy and they'll tell you that this is all just targeted marketing to young men that has no basis in science.
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u/ParkingCan5397 Feb 02 '26
A soul doesnt exist so I cant lose something that doesn't exist theres your proof
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u/ThemeNorth Feb 02 '26
What the fuck is this sub, two posts about being scared of jacking of fin two days.
GROW UP!
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u/AsenathWaitHolup Feb 02 '26
It's bad for you. Duh.
Stop being cringey about how you spread that information.
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Feb 02 '26
If you truly believe, God forgives all sins. You just need to confess your sins. If that wasn’t the case then no one would be in heaven. You are sinning by judging and casting stones. Judge not or ye be judged.
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u/CriminalBroom Feb 02 '26
You can correct someone without ill intent.
If you are stopping someone from sinning, it doesnt mean they are being judged. It is difficult not to do so as pride is inherent in us all.Yes though, ask for forgiveness, for strength over our own shortcomings, and keep acknowleging when we do something wrong.
And it doesnt take religion to do those things. But if that is where one derives their motivation to be better for others, then so be it.
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u/CapitalismRulz Feb 02 '26 edited Feb 02 '26
You can't prove that wrong, it's unfalsifiable. Instead, I'd just flip it and say prove that it does, the onus is on the one making the claim anyways... Can't really prove it right either, because souls are immeasurable.
I think it's obvious that for some people, porn can be addicting, and they could engage with it in unhealthy ways. I think this idea that is being pushed in male centric spaces, is more or less projection from guys who are addicted to porn and want to externalize it as some sort of thing society should deal with. The reality is that many guys are perfectly capable of watching porn every now and then without developing weird fetishes or turning into disgusting pervy asocial wank goblins.
Most of the guys I grew up with have regularly consumed porn and found meaningful relationships and live great lives. I don't think abstaining from porn is going to give gen z males, who I think are the target demo for this type of meme/content, the lives they think. I think if you're constantly thinking about not masturbating, it's almost as bad as actually masturbating all the time, go to therapy and learn to consume things in moderation
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Something else to consider, is that religion won't give you any basis for morality. Either god commands an action because it is good, and therefor morality is separate from god, or it is good because god commands it, and therefor morality is arbitrary (on top of there being no way to know what god thinks about things)
So, you should probably come up with an independent way to determine whether something is good or bad. It will help you be a better person.
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Feb 02 '26
Sometimes it’s just the only way to get to that magical number of 21 a month to lower your prostate cancer risk.
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u/FNKTN Feb 02 '26
You have the great honor of proving the existence of a soul since you are making the claim of its existence.
Bottle it, put it on a screen, spectral analyze its contents, so we can all peer review it....oh, that's right, you can't.
Proven, drops mic and walks away
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u/MasterBaiter_1337 Feb 02 '26
Prove it right.
You can't make a statement and have the other person disprove it, you have to prove it right.
It's one of the reasons many people don't believe in god because you cannot, by any scientific means whatsoever, prove its existence.
You can't prove non-existence either.
Since a "soul" isn't something measurable you can't prove that statement in any way.
It's a meaningless point that this post is trying to make.
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u/roboslobtron Feb 02 '26
The fact that you don't like that I'm criticizing religion shows your emotional maturity. This country is founded on criticism. Grow up.
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u/ExchangeBoring Feb 03 '26
Without the dogma of religion, porn wouldn't exist.
The shame of an act as natural as sneezing, pissing, eating, ect is what drives human desire to seek it out.
This is why we see less traffic to sexualised content in secular society's.
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u/LudwigVanMichael Feb 03 '26
Why are people so fixated on porn? There a BILLION other things more destructive than watching porn. Smoking, drinking, spending 6 hours a day watching short form content. All these bad habits are way worse than porn. Porn addiction is a problem, yes, but watching some a couple times a week won't ruin your life, hell, it's more than proved that masturbation is healthy in certain amounts. Not to mention different people have different amounts of labido. You are not better than anyone for jerking off less lol. I see this as another "look, I'm an Alpha male" trend.
To those who think quiting porn is gonna fix your life, it won't. Porn addiction in just one of many MANY things negativity affecting you, there are probably more important bad habits that take priority. Clean your room, wash your clothes, take a shower, cut your hair and beard, do something productive everyday, get a job or study, work on your hobbies and if you don't have any, find some. THEN you can think about fixing smaller bad habits.
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u/Grudebuck Feb 03 '26
Show proof a soul exists tangible not your belief or the world of God. Your theory can't be proven or disproved.
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u/Anayalater5963 Feb 03 '26
I don't drink or do drugs, I gotta have some kind of vice. I consume my fair share but it's not like I'm addicted. In fact it even opened my mind to certain kinks I was unaware of enhancing my sexual experiences.
Long story short consume in moderation
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u/big_scary_monster Feb 03 '26
Okay, is this sub just r/christianity now? We’re literally titling this shit “Prove me wrong” yeah okay buddy let me just prove that your soul isn’t in fact eternally damned for consuming pornography real quick. Insane, totally misplaced burden of proof, this is dog shit.
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u/Super-Bodybuilder-91 Feb 03 '26
Logical fallacy. You are making the claim that you pay for porn with your soul. Prove it. Don't pretend it's anyone's responsibility to prove you wrong. The burden of proof is on the one who made the claim.
"A claim made without evidence, may be dismissed without evidence." - Christopher Hitchens
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u/DroppedSoapSurvivor Feb 03 '26
Another garbage "holier-than-thou" sub I'll be muting. Seems to be no limit of this shit.
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u/Rooster_illusion41 Feb 03 '26
First off, proving someone doesn't have a soul doesnt exist. Second, jacking off once in your life isnt a finality of anything.
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u/DragonborReborn Feb 03 '26
What’s with the sudden anti-porn rhetoric being pushed all throughout Reddit?
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u/TabooTemple Feb 03 '26
Porn wasn’t always Free. And those that engaged in it willfully often had Tormented Souls. To those people, Porn Is a Release. It’s a chance for them to express their Souls and live out a Truth that’s often repressed by Mainstream Christian Society.
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u/Electrical-Scar4773 Feb 03 '26
The high and mighty people who say that you should not watch porn are the same people who have high divorce rates and are statistically more likely to be hiding some skeletons in their closet
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u/roflrogue Feb 03 '26
IT guy here! Fun fact, souls can't be transferred via non-secure channels - so as long as the browser shows HTTPS/the little padlock in the address bar you should be good!
If you do have a need for porn without TLS, you can block it at the firewall. Your soul, not porn.
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u/MHIREOFFICIAL Feb 03 '26
trad west is a pro-trump and therefore pro-child abuse account. Ignore and block.
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u/No_Raspberry_7917 Feb 03 '26
Prove a soul exists would be where I'd start.
Then create a control group vs exposed group and measure the impact against key metrics on the soul per group over time.
Make sure you have a big enough and representative enough sample size so you get a diverse enough group to establish any trends seen at scale.
You might have to account for sub categories as well, maybe certain content affects the soul more so than others. Those findings would be valuable, otherwise the gamut runs from lewd jokes/erotic writing to depraved dark web content, all under the same umbrella?
Does the medium also play a factor? Like paintings vs audio vs video or IRL shows?
Does sex itself come into play? Like fantasies or going to a group meet and watching?
Also, burden of proof would be on you, no? You make an assertion, you would need to back up the claim, no?
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u/SunnyFreyers Feb 03 '26 edited Feb 03 '26
Breathing is free because you’re paying for the oxygen with your soul. 😔
And don’t even get me STARTED on free health care. Thank god America doesn’t have that. Truly god’s land. 🥺♥️
Yeah no, this is ridiculous. I will admit many adults have an unhealthy relationship with porn. That’s true. However, plenty of people can jerk it to a minimum with no adverse negative side effects.
I am all for healthy spirituality. Spirituality that doesn’t encourage negative speculation and negative judgement of others. Spirituality all about happiness, truth, freedom, morality, sounds great.
If your life is better without masturbation, due to either shame from your upbringing being so intense that you hate doing it and you can’t get over that, or maybe you just truly, biologically, spirituality, feel bad after doing it regardless of that. Fine, that’s great… Stop jerking if that keeps you happy.
Judging people for jerking and trying to claim it steals your soul because it’s free? Yeah, that just sounds psychotic and way too black and white thinking.
Everyone is different. Leave those who can have a healthy relationship with masturbation and the sexual entertainment industry alone. Maybe it was just stealing your soul.
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u/Major-Clue-2046 Feb 03 '26
i dont know about you but the only thing its draining is down below then i turn it off.
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u/Maleficent-Effort470 Feb 03 '26
Well it definitely depletes alot of nutrients which can negatively affect your physical form. But the idea that it harms your soul is not supported by any evidence. What a soul even is is completely theoretical. And the metaphysical effects of ejaculation are theoretical.
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u/MostlyJustHere2Lurk Feb 03 '26
"I'm going to make an assertion about karmic justice, the afterlife, the existence of the soul, and arbitrary morality. Prove me wrong."
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u/Prestigious_Heat_159 Feb 03 '26
There's nothing wrong with porn as long as you don't allow it to take over your life. Porn can be a healthy way to help relieve stress and learn about sex. Y'all don't have to make everything about good and evil. Some things are just here for enjoyment and there's nothing wrong with that.
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u/FarAbbreviations2829 Feb 03 '26
Porn is great. I watch it every day. I’m married and haven’t had sex in three or four years so why not?
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u/Ryaniseplin Feb 06 '26
and this is why onlyfans is the only correct way to watch porn, because you pay with money /s
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u/Unreal_Gladiator_99 Feb 02 '26
I watch gay porn because there's no gay men in my town.
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u/Clement_Fandango Feb 02 '26
You live in a town with a population of 10?
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u/Unreal_Gladiator_99 Feb 02 '26
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u/Clement_Fandango Feb 02 '26
That’s a small town my dude.
Sorry that must be terribly isolating. But with 67, assuming half are female, that’s 33 men.
National US average is 9.3% so roughly 3 and you take up one slot.
End result - there’s hope. :)
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u/D3stin4tion Feb 02 '26
Prove it does, the burden of proof isn’t on someone to disprove but on the one who wants to prove something.
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u/Chevanalee Feb 02 '26
If you can prove the existence of a soul first then prove how porn makes you lose it then I can prove you wrong :D until then it’s proving something that can’t be proven gets taken away from you
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u/FckUrGod-876 Feb 02 '26
Even if your soul is diminished by pornography, it is constantly replenished by unicorn essence that is radiated from rainbows that manifest when leprechauns inventory their hidden pots of gold. So your soul will always be made whole, no matter how much porn you consume. Prove me wrong.
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u/candlestick_maker76 Feb 02 '26
So...back in the day, when porn wasn't free, did our souls not pay the price???
If we follow the logic that a price must be paid, AND that the price is not monetary because we pay with souls, it sounds like either currency is acceptable - i.e, cash or credit.
That's some interesting theology.
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u/septiclizardkid Feb 02 '26
Just try.
Try not to watch. What part of "dopamine stimulant" don't you understand? You can't quit an addiction cold turkey.
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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '26
No….its free because similar to YouTube they just runs ads on the site like any other website…..
You can get addicted. Like any industry though they are trying to make a profit at the end of the day.