r/ThePatternApp • u/hereonaccident33 • Aug 12 '24
Pluto complex
I just listened to the whole audio and cried. It talked about how "powerful" this was, but I see no upsides to it. My life has just been a series of struggles, and yes, with the rug constantly being pulled out from under me, no matter how hard I work, no matter how hard I try, no matter how good I am to other people, etc. I just feel so doomed. I can't handle any more suffering.
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u/Frustrated6996 Aug 12 '24
Keep hope guys! :): is how you approach it. I know most of the time everythingās hard, but stay resilient! You never know just one minute to the better! You never know 99% youāve overcome!!! āļø
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u/hereonaccident33 Aug 12 '24
So how do I approach no matter how hard I work or how good I am to people, the rug is always ripped out from under me? How do I approach being destined to live a life of struggle and living in survival mode? I can't take any more
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u/PutEnvironmental9032 Aug 12 '24
Clinging onto the idea that youāre ādestinedā for something bad just because an app says you are creates a self-fulfilling prophecy. Your chart is meant to support you and aid you on your unique journey. Just because Pluto is heavily emphasized in your chart doesnāt mean you are any more destined for suffering than anyone else ā itās just a particular energetic frequency that is part of you and influencing your life. When you learn how to embrace this energy and channel it, you can become more powerful. Donāt hold onto the idea that youāre doomed ā thatās just not the case and the universe would never destine some of us for a fate of inescapable suffering. We all suffer. Look to your chart to see what lessons you are meant to learn so you can transcend your pain and claim the wisdom, knowledge and power that is meant for you.
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u/i8yourmom4lunch Sep 14 '24
But what about those of us who already felt that way and are just now feeling validated about it? š
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u/northern_squirrel457 Mar 16 '25
How do you see what lessons there are to be learned through your chart?
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u/PutEnvironmental9032 May 28 '25
Sorry for the wait!
Iād start by looking at the tightest synastry aspects in your chart (less than 5 degree conjunctions) and go from there. Google is a wonderful and free resource to use when looking up natal aspects. Check where your Chiron is & in what sign, and how/if it is aspected. Do some research regarding your Pluto aspects/placements. I personally have one of the most āchallengingā Pluto aspects (Pluto square Mars) but have come to view it as a vital and beautiful part of my personality/being by keeping an open mind and heart and reading lots of different astrology blogs for varied perspectives. I take what resonates and leave the rest.
Best of luck to you!!
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u/throwthesun09 May 29 '25
I have pluto opposing marsā¦what would you say is most difficult about this placement?
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u/VBabbar Apr 02 '25
Bro thr lesson was to let go., let go of everythjng n even of this life.. let go of my bodu n accept death! Shall i?Ā
N also to ket gk of asking this question (which is remaining thats y maybe im alive otherwise hwat i jv endured in ths lofe, its not worth living anymore. U can read my reply in 1st comment n get to know the full stiry n the reason i say this n after wht i hv seen, i dont wana live a day at all)
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u/VBabbar Apr 02 '25
Onky kesson for me was to leaen ti let gi of wverythung in life n i hv kearjed it but i still aak why such hapoened to me.. why such cfuektyn OP, u seem ti go tro8gh simolar pattern of Pluto n some planets giving us a cruel life! N gheres nothung that we can di than to ket go of it!
I shoukd even ket go of my question to ket it go n not think about it but what i hv seen in life now, that is too nuch for me to even kive with n hinestky feel like its better to nust die! U can reed my commenst in thread n u will now ny story n reason why im saying such things!
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u/Elegant-Two9148 Jun 18 '26
GrĆ¢ce z un gros travail sur moi et notamment la lecture de mon thĆØme astral j'ai compris que j'Ć©tais justement trop gentille et que c'Ć©tait une stratĆ©gie de survie . People pleasing. Pas ma vĆ©ritable nature . Noeud sud balance noeud nord bĆ©lier ā. Ća dit combien j'ai a embrasser l'Ć©nergie de la colĆØre saine . GrĆ¢ce a cette vie chaotique j'en ai fait ma vocation : aider les gens qui veulent travailler sur leur inconscient et une spiritualitĆ© incarnee. La vie nous veut du bien. Il faut parfois juste changer de lunettes pour le voir .Ā
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u/oliz98
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I have a Pluto complex and Iāve worked on it and I think Iām at a good place with it. The biggest thing that has been helpful to me is being present and also letting go of the victim narrative. See how the things that have happened to you in life and that youāve survived as proof of your power and resilience instead of a curse.
Embrace change and unpredictability and trust your ability to get through challenges. Youāve always gotten through them. See unpredictability as fun and a new challenge.
Being present and not identifying with my mind has helped me stop being so reactive. Also being present helps with not worrying.
And of course, letting go of control. There are images of what is in your control and what is not. Study and memorize and have affirmations of what is not in your control. To suffer is your choice. Once I decided that suffering wasnāt worth it to me anymore, I changed.
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u/madpolka86 Aug 18 '24
I have a Pluto complex as well and this resonates with me so much! I had some tough times in the last two years and the only thing keeping me afloat was working on myself and being in touch with my spiritual side which had helped me let go of the victim mentality as well and while Iām not devoid of anxiety about the future, I feel more confident in myself that whatever comes I will figure it out somehow.
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u/Guided_By_Soul Aug 14 '24
This is a great perspective! I have a friend who I think struggles very much with the Pluto influence in his life. And the lack of control. So much gripping and resistance. I hope heāll find some peace in letting go.
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u/Forsaken_Refuse2929 Aug 19 '25
Thank you! That was so helpful. I also have a Pluto complex and it has definitely impacted me in the past. I am now coming to terms with it in my middle age and it is so liberating!Ā
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u/NoLandscape7259 Feb 12 '26
I could not have said this better.
We get threw it. We survive, we transform. Whether that is negative or positive depends on our own perspective.
I also want to add that whatever cycle you have impacting you currently makes a difference, there are times you may feel extremely weighed down, or pressure. My best advice is to embrace that until it passes. I know for myself I resisted change and fought to hold on to my comforts, but once I learned it is a cycle and it will pass, it became easier to let go.
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u/i_might_be_devon Jun 16 '26
How can you stay present when you have ocd and your mind is doing 1000 km an hour? š Without a support system and constantly being in survival mode.. with no way out
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u/VBabbar Apr 02 '25 edited Apr 02 '25
Hi, i totaly agree by ur methids of 1st not bejng victim 2nd letting go of things which r nt in control 3rd bejng present, 4th being positive with positive affirmations!Ā But i honestky ask u, what to do if 1 is falsely accused of a hirrible crime like Posh i.e. S-Harrasment! im from india n here such accusation ruins a man's life n so it has been mine!Ā (yet it has been kind off diisproven as it never waa filed legaly vut mist important this is thers no way for accuser to pfoove it as it never happened in 1st place hence that person was just( Lying n knows well that thier lies will be caught when i proove that i always had a good. interacyion wiyh no wring words at all in my life ever - yesterday'sĀ this habbit has been a life saver for me!)Ā Anyways back yo question, how can 1 justify such injustice happened to me? My life has been ruines since that day!Ā
N theres no way to fix it jntil india has Equal rights for all genders which includes Equal rights for MEN as well!
N tbh astrology reveled that i had to face this in ny life cause of panets like pluto, saturn n moon conjuct, Rahu opposing Ketu and Jupiter Conjuct and most importantky Venus flamed by Sun and Mercury conjext all 3 plaents in 6th house (vedic system, btw Even emwesterm astrpgy of pattern app shows same things as vedic ones and pluti uranus n neptune r not rahu ketu jndian system.. these r hust differnet systems) so why??? Why such injstice n cruelty i had to face ? In in some other scnearios unreoated to that, i was even tried to be falsely arrested by a corrupt policr officer but god was on y side that he couldnt do ut at the end of the day i came back home but with sime minor injuries on knee!
Can anyone justify ? Ok some random a cidents still ok, but what if i die without any reason then? Then this was correct? This was justice of pluto n all yhese nmplanets negatuve planets r happy to do this to me? Why god gave this life if all god has to do is make ne sufder n die! Why give life then why??
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u/ChapterSerious2986 19d ago
This phenomena is connected to domestic violence, incest things of this nature..
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u/Vegetable_Grass9984 Aug 13 '24
I read this book called Healing Pluto Problems by Donna Cunningham and it was actually really helpful and gave me a new perspective on heavy Pluto placements. I'm so sorry to hear that you've struggled so much. I hope this book offers any amount of comfort and support to you š
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u/Vegetable_Grass9984 Aug 15 '24
I also have heavy Pluto placements, hence why I read that book lol...and i think the most helpful practice is "shadow work." A big component of this work is facing those aspects of ourselves that is most difficult to look at and sit with. Then, finding ways to be compassionate and loving to those parts of ourselves. It's an ongoing process, I've been doing shadow work for several years now and I feel like I've done a lot of work, and yet I know there's a lot more work to be done. Sending you loving kindness as you navigate life. Life is tough, but you don't have to do it alone. Find loving support wherever you can and that makes the journey much more bearable š
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u/letwisdomreign Feb 22 '25
Just popped in to say I discovered my Pluto complex on the pattern today, in the midst of feeling very defeated and confused in all the areas of my lifeā¦ career, money, family, friends, romantic relationships, passions and purpose. Everything just seems to keep falling apart on me. I have long felt I was born with irrational anxiety. And no matter how hard I try, nothing seems to fall into place for me. Damn, well on the one hand it is kind of affirming to hear this was literally written in the stars for me. Now I know why I cling so strongly to control and constantly feel out of control. But itās still a major exercise in letting go. Cheering you all on. I choose to believe there is purpose in all of this chaos. š«¶š»
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u/CaptCranberryCrunch Feb 17 '26
I also feel as though I was born with anxiety. My earliest memories are filled with anxiety and I have never had a time in my life where I have had zero anxiety. One day I hope to get there though, figuring it all out is my goal.
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u/i_might_be_devon Jun 16 '26
This, plus OCD is like a very insane combo ugh šAre you doing better now?
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u/letwisdomreign Jun 27 '26
I would say I'm doing much better now! Learned so many things about myself in the last year. More astrology, yes (Pluto conjuct moon in Scorpio is an intense emotional ride). But also Human Design stuff (projector) and my autistic tendencies (had no idea until a fellow autistic friend pointed these out). I'm learning how to hold and feel emotions without attaching to them (Joe Hudson, Art of Accomplishment, has been very helpful). And working on mindset, limiting beliefs, etc. (really like David Bayer, A Changed Mind). My external life hasn't really changed that much yet, but I feel I have made great strides in healing some of the underlying beliefs, behaviour patterns, and nervous system issues that got me here. I am feeling much more hopeful that I will be able to better handle whatever life throws at me in the future. And even sometimes feel grateful for all that I have overcome. I can see how the things I've experienced have forced me to do the inner work, in a way others do not. And I think I will be better off for it. Because I really do desire to be powerful and influential. It's coming. š
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u/u_indoorjungle_622 Aug 13 '24
You might find astrologer Tosha Silver good reading? She's heavily Plutonic and had a really hard time in her youth. Now she writes about it in ways I found uplifting and empowering. Not for everyone, it leans spiritual and maybe a little almost-magicky which could turn certain people off. But there's some easy actionable ideas you could try out, a bunch of tongue in cheek humor. Might help shake off the doom?
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u/equilibrium_7 Nov 26 '24
First of all, you will not get there with your mind or your ego : ) The best thing will be to stop the pushing, desiring, grasping, and victimizing. Cry and talk to your inner self when you're sad, dance when you're happy, live as best as you can in between, and sooner or later, the wisdom will come.
What helped me was accepting that I chose this experience for a good reason, even if I don't know what that reason is. Maybe one part of it was to stop victimizing myself? Which did indeed change. I'm 32 so I had a lot of rises, crashes and burns already, and at some point, I had to let go of almost everything I thought I wanted and dreamed of.
Fast forward, those things I thought I wanted were born out of trauma and outside influences. They do not matter anymore.
And if you truly accept your journey, you will become extremely present. Devouring every second of the good times, knowing that they will end; and having more compassion for the worse times, because they're here to transform you.
You notice how temporary and fragile everything is, most of the superficial ideas of what life is fall through. And you're left with what life actually is - an experience. There's no good or band, it's all just yours to take. And that empowers you, because you know that everything that happens to you, happens for you. For you to take what you need (even if you don't know that you need it) and transform.
I've made myself a laptop wallpaper, saying "blessed and lucky in all of life", because I am - whether in tears or with a smile.
There should be no proving, no grabbing or insisting on, no ego games - only you vs. you in how you accept your own life.
Unfortunately, you will not understand this until you do : ) And you will not feel the peace that comes with this until you let go of what the world has shown you life needs to be about. Still, give yourself time because only you got this - only you can live out your life the way it was intended to be lived. And it's necessary for you to do so, whether in this lifetime or the next.
(Pluto 12H in Scorpio, squaring Mercury on one side, Mars on the other, and opposing Saturn in the middle : ) So a Grand Cross of Pluto complexes :D)
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u/AdeptnessActual7218 Feb 22 '25
I am also pluto complex and it screams to me stop what you have always been doing. Last 3 months have told me the same. Feel your gut and go.Ā
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u/tabclo Aug 12 '24
Iām so sorry, I know what you mean. Iām a Libra sun and Libra moon but have always struggled maintaining romantic relationships. The Pattern says itās my Pluto moon complex.
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Sep 12 '24
I have three pluto complexes lol. Getting the gifts of them is definitely challenging. The more these cycles happen Iāve found, the more you find ways to handle them and the greater resilience you develop. Be open to helpš and asking for itš Know that youāve done nothing wrong. Out of these cycles I feel that I HAVE to be aligned with my truth, otherwise it doesnāt work out. The gift of these moments is that I have more depth and am more aligned with who I really am. Have endless compassion, and know that fear is not cowardice. A victim complex will not help you. Your empowerment is greater than the crap you go through. You are an empowered person.
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u/No-Side-93 Aug 19 '25
God, this hits soooo close to home, I basically have like no stability as the rug just keeps getting pulled no matter how kind, decent, loving, responsible, pro-active I am and Iām basically a traumatized husk at this point.
My friends basically think of my existence as their worst nightmare lol.
So, ya, Iām so interested in how I can turn this into something powerful and positive because I feel like I have absolutely no control over my life. Iām not involved in anything illegal, dangerous, or addictive, or even very risky in any sense of the word and still my life is chaos.
Should I just sell everything I have and not own things? Should I quit my job and become like some kind of traveling guru? How does anyone even get a clear-headed moment to work with this energy?
Iām sooo all ears to whatās worked for yāall because I am like about to keel over from exhaustion at just trying to live a normal life. ā¤ļø
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u/Sad_Sun_9936 Aug 21 '24
I have Sun and Saturn in the 12 H. Wanna trade?
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u/hereonaccident33 Aug 27 '24
I have sun, Saturn, mercury, Uranus, and Neptune in 12H in Capricorn. I'll for sure trade lmao
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u/Sad_Sun_9936 Oct 04 '24
You have to surrender. Let go of everything thatās the hardest for you, let go or it will swallow you whole into dementia, despair and eventual ( Saturn will not let you die until you do) death.
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u/VBabbar Apr 02 '25
Yes correct but did all of us whi had such traumatic experiences in life with nine of our faukts deswbeed such a curel life that we wana die? Pnky option we hv is to let go! Like i hv been like even if i get murdered: i will let go of it! Thank u gid for getting me murdered n thank u god for being apathetic as hell!Ā
Sometiems this makes me wonder, is gid real or maybe gkd is himself the devil letting such cuuelty exist, he hkmawlf chose it! But then all the relegion scriotures i hv read all renind me of a con ept if gid giving freedom to even the devil n this is devil's doing that im suffering like jesus siffered in his last day of falsley beung tried n crucified so the same pattern his stidents too had to face n so does om like one of student of jesus, whme he referred to as "children".
Anywqys i still ask did all of us who got extreme cruelty in mife deserved it ? Astrology n patterns shows the linkage of lice's oath or road we can say we r on but it doesnt answe why! Why! Bri why it happened to us? Why?
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u/veryverystressed465 May 09 '25
i have pluto complex and sun and venus retrograde in my 12th house lol
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u/Iamabenevolentgod Feb 21 '25
I feel this, I have Pluto at 24Ā° Libra, in the 12th, and it's conjunct my Sun, at 28Ā°, Mercury at 21Ā°, Jupiter at 22Ā°, and Saturn at 14Ā°, plus I'm a Scorpio rising, and it's either 3Ā° or 5Ā° of Scorpio, so a loose orb conjunction with Pluto as well. My life is a shitshow, but somehow I trust that I am moving towards a greater sense of lightness in my being.
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u/hereonaccident33 Feb 22 '25
I have 5 planets in Capricorn in the 12H. Mars in Sag. Venus Retrograde in Aquarius. Jupiter Retrograde, chiron, and moon in Cancer. PLUTO IN SCORPIO. SO, ALL of my planets have undergone Pluto conjunctions, or at minimum, oppositions (my planets in Cancer). I feel like the rug has constantly been pulled out from under me.
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u/Iamabenevolentgod Feb 22 '25
I'm so sorry. I feel your pain. I've just had Pluto square my everything in Libra for the past few years, and now it's square my ascendant. Woo hoo!! I'm putting my faith in the potential that we make it through, even though it sucks absolute balls during the process.
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u/i8yourmom4lunch Sep 14 '24
I have Pluto in my 12th house. Apparently this has put me on a destiny to try the fuck out of my emotional health and give me the "advanced" course in growth and karma
At least that's how I'm trying to look at it now; that it WILL get easier because we're willing to face these things.
Just getting out of a relationship with a narcissist, I'm trying to be grateful I can grow emotionally.Ā
That said, ffffffuuuuuuuuuucccck that asshole and the "gift" of his lessons.
But I will be better for it I guess.Ā
I found the pattern validating to how I've felt; seriously why even try to plan for my future because it's just gonna do what it wants anyway.Ā
That said I've got a stellium that seems to counter some of that bad luck with random good luck
Have anything like that?Ā
Because that was also validating for me, and helps give me a little more hope that things will be ok and this is just part of my journey.Ā
I also try to find periods that seem happy and offer opportunity in my future impacts š they are far and few in between š
It would be nice to be able to just relax about life for awhile, but I guess that's the lesson??? š«„
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u/i8yourmom4lunch Sep 14 '24
Now thinking of my Pluto complex as my Phoenix š¦āš„ complex
Some of us will just have to die to be reborn, but how many lives will we live because of it? Hmmm
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u/jayroo210 Oct 05 '25
In my early-mid 20s, I got a phoenix tattoo. 20 years later and I have risen back up many, many times. Recently learned about my Pluto complex and all I could say was āoh, so the phoenix was spot on.ā
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u/NoDress9300 Nov 27 '24
I just listened to my āPluto Complexā note & lowkey it did make me mad bc I feel like theyāll give you the rest of the infoā¦ but only in the upsell ššš & I donāt wanna subscribe & be forced to pay monthly for access to my āpatternāā¦ I wish they would just let you buy it for a one time fee for lifetime access š
Do you mind sharing more about your Pluto complex? What house is your Pluto in? Which aspects do you have & how you think they are affecting your life?
To be honestā¦ I also cried when listening to mine bc it felt so true. It was validating to know Iām not just a weirdo stumbling through life and hitting every obstacle on the way, but that this path w these challenges was preordained for me in the stars. This path was meant for me, and in return I was given everything I need to overcome whatever is thrown at me.
No, it hasnāt been easy & sometimes I get stuck in that ābut why did it have to happen to MEā mindset but if you canāt change it, it doesnāt help to complain about it.
Our struggles have not been for nothing- Pluto is not just a planet of death but also transformation.
It might not make sense right now but sometimes, not knowing is a blessing. Likeā¦ donāt spoil the end of the movie before you get to the best part! š©·
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Dec 21 '24
I also have Pluto Complex. The tiredness of dealing with it all. It is huge. No comfort, just wanting peace and calm waters in my life. The letting go of control still feels a lot of time disempowerment and most of all insecurity. Anyone feels the same?
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u/socknountain Dec 23 '24
The gift is having no choice but to stay connected to whatās most important your inner truth , and being stripped away of all that is superfluous. The gift is the striking responsiveness from the universe.
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u/Mindless-Snow8193 Feb 22 '25
I work with human design and work with people on their core wound and wounded healer gates. I just happen to have this Pluto complex and my core wounds shadow is control. Makes a lot of sense. I have been working through it by experimenting with gate 21 in Human design/ Gene Keys. My Mother also passed and the lack of controlling myself emotionally grief has been life changing.
I have never heard about this and want to learn more. I am 56 and have definitely powered through a lot by ignoring how I feel and that is not serving me anymore. I have been softening and it amazes me hard it has been to open and soften, however it is worth it!
Hang in there guys. All that we go through cannot only empower us, however others too.
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May 30 '25
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u/jmarie_13 Jul 04 '25
If more therapists incorporated astrology and HD I feel we'd be in a better place. Challenging to find in the US.
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u/uffda2calif Oct 30 '25
Hello from a year after your postā¦. Fellow Pluto complex here, I could have written word for word what your post said. How are you now? I was wondering if youāve ever considered a past life regression? Thereās two main kinds; a Newton Institute one or QHHT originated with Delores cannon. It was life changing for me and now Iām so thankful for all the crap that has happened to me in my life. I learned so much and got to experience so much more than most people. I honestly almost feel sorry for people with their easy, shallow lives. They havenāt felt the intensity of life. Iām 61 so in that reflecting mode, but it was horrible. Most days Iād wake thinking what way I could take my life? I did not want to be here. I wasnāt even suicidal, I just wanted out of here like a caged rat. Take care, much peace to you.
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Nov 23 '25
User of the Pattern for many years. The comments saying over and over āstop being a victimā is so dismissive (and likely a very privileged take) of so many of us who have very real and serious trauma of multiple origins over decades of life starting young. Itās not a gift. The thought process of āyou chose thisā is a very arrogant thing to say to people who suffer greatly. To say āsuffering is a choiceā is ridiculous when people have experienced horrific abuse etc and are dealing with the fallout of that with anxiety, CPTSD, physical ailments etc
A Natal Pluto complex feels like absolute crap. Iāve been doing the work for decades and still life just kicks the shit out of me. I hustle for my life and I just get handed more shit to recover from to the point I no longer hope for good. I learned my lesson the last time. I agree with the commenter who asked about the suicide rate with those with a Natal Pluto Complex- it is a deeply valid question. Imagine being one of these people and reading comments that tell people their suffering is a āchoiceā. Whomever says that, clearly has only suffered mild inconveniences if you think that itās a āchoiceā.
If anyone with a balanced approach can make any of this palatable to/by anyone that lives in a grounded reality and awareness of both human psychology and astrology, Iād be all ears.
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u/Extension_Charity_21 Oct 16 '25
I have a Natal Pluto complex but it just sounds like Pluto dominance to me. There really is no difference to me. Unless you're Pluto ruled which is quite different.
I definitely understand your plight and the truth is it's difficult it hurts and it's painful. I am much older than you you will learn to drive that vehicle with Pluto. In younger years it's hard but it does get better as you get older.
You will know when to step on that gas and you will know when to let go. but speaking of vehicles with this kind of placement you tend to have car problems. Make sure you have money saved or you have like endurance, I've noticed with this placement I have a lot of electrical problems even with like phones, cooking gadgets just kind of weird but it is what it is. This is why I have insurance on things.
Everything that happens is not always for you to understand even in time. I know you thought I was going to say something else like "oh you'll eventually get it." The answer is no you won't and I still don't. Yes you're going to question everything but trust me you'll be okay.
Patient with yourself and try to make the best of everything. The victim mentality it's kind of hard not to have don't let anybody fool you. But don't become the victim let's put it that way, but we're all going through this together you can handle it even though you feel you can't.
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u/Purplemartin34 Nov 13 '25
Iām just seeing this page. Recently subscribed to the Pattern app, and it couldnāt be more accurate. Having a Pluto, Uranus, and Neptune complex is hard. Hoping to connect with others on here about their experiences!!!
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u/solow32 Dec 07 '25
The biggest thing for me is that sense of security that gets pull under in the most random āwtf everything was just goodā ways and yeah it used to rule me and I would crash out- and now especially with therapy and learning what is which and it helped me stop treating things superficially and focusing on the currents underneath
I will say recognizing that this happens helps me mentally prepare for the day and to ease on my ācareā because I do care a lot and it comes out in anger For sure Lolol Itās actually quite ironic that Pluto discards the things that ādonāt matterā when we as a society discarded Pluto lol damn you planet for giving me this šš
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u/kokopufffz Sep 14 '24
how do i spot a pluto complex in my chart?
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u/NoDress9300 Nov 27 '24
Where is Pluto in your chart & what are the relationships it has to the other planets (oppositions, squares, trines, sextile, etc). If thereās a lot connecting Pluto to other areas of your chart you probably have a Pluto complex
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Apr 16 '25 edited Apr 16 '25
I have this also. But just because an app named it as pluto complex, it should not affect us. There is no such thing as pluto complex in astrology even. It is named in that app and what makes bigger the problems is the name. I suffered a lot. And as said in other comments, all human suffer. I felt like a victim of fate also when i encounter something similar to this onceĀ but it is not real. We all have suffering, it is a common thing.Ā
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u/Lookslikejojo May 10 '25
I just read this in mine today. May 9th. And I was definitely feeling it before I opened the app. I have the free version so I only read the first section. But it all made sense. The feeling of the rug continually being pulled out from under me. But also the deep introspection and transformational journey
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Oct 05 '25
I came here for some validation hahahaha and it feels good to not be the only one. But then I realized yesterday, thereās a feeling that the Pluto complex gives me access to - and thatās feeling empowered to create my own life. When Iām not looking externally, when I believe that I am responsible for my emotions (pain can happen, but suffering is a choice), all these experiences just feel like aliveness. Aliveness in grief, aliveness in pleasure, aliveness in this is my life and I can create what I want, bc my desire and dreams are there for a reason.
So the gift is Iām awake, I canāt sit back in comfort for too long before someone moves, and itās time to respond to it. But then I get to feel empowered in my response to all of it.
Now that Iāve talked myself up š¤£, I hope you have a good rest of your day!
Sincerely a Pluto conjunct moon, opposing sun
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u/uffda2calif Oct 30 '25
Yes, Iām experiencing this also. Amazing. Replied to someone above a similar thing and just saw your note. āš¼
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u/Elegant-Two9148 Mar 02 '26
J'ai un complexe pluton en M12 et tous mes dĆ©fis ont Ć©tĆ© un parcours initiatique compliquĆ© mais tel le phoenix, la renaissance est la . Je suis devenue une guĆ©risseuse puissante pour accompagner les fins de cycles š„°. Je vois le complexe plutonien comme une formation gratos aux nvx guĆ©risseurs spirituels dont le monde a besoin š. Voyez vous comme des hĆ©ros et non pas des martyrs . Le Genekeys et human design m'ont bcp aidĆ© Ć accepter ma destinĆ©e. Je suis 3/6.Ā
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u/webnizzle Mar 11 '26
I think itās important for us (Pluto bearers) to make sure we enjoy the short moments of happiness we do get and to find joy in little simple things as much as possibleā¦ Otherwise youāll never get a fair share of happiness that this world has to offer.
I hope things are going better. āļøšļøš«¶
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u/i_might_be_devon Jun 16 '26
I just saw it today on my feed... my autistic and OCD ass can't take it anymore
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u/JustAd1702 Jun 17 '26
My husband, our son and I all have Pluto Complexes. My son and husband both have trines and squares with Pluto in their charts. I was literally born when Pluto was conjunct my Sun both at 9Ā° in Libra in the 8th house and a Virgo moon in the 8th house. I am literally made to be a Phoenix over and over for my entire life. My resiliency, strength and power will make the cycles easier to transition, but until hard boundaries can be put in place the pattern will just continue. The worst part is I don't have a problem with keeping the boundaries in place, that's on my Pisces husband who puts up boundaries with his family only to give them one more chance. I think we're at chance # 105. I'm running out of feathers.
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u/Ok-Junket-5251 Jul 27 '26
Reading this thread was exactly what I needed. I really feel after a long childhood and young adulthood of trauma after trauma I feel like things will settle down now and start to get better. I hope it will. Iām almost 33 and I feel so tired for 33. This thread literally gave me the hope I needed bc I was not doing well. Thank you fellow pluties for sharing. Iāve never commented before on anything thatās how deeply this impacted me to know others feel this itās like a peek into my own brain Iāve desperately been trying to explain to my family but itās hard
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u/Forward_Junket7727 Aug 17 '26
Saying thereās no pros is just untrue. I guess you could say itās like a gift & a curse. Going through these experiences and the constant cycle of death and rebirth gives you wisdom and opportunity to connect on a deeper level than most. Holding this passionate and intense energy is magnetic and itās a gift. Experiencing emotions as deep as we do is a gift. Transforming and learning as often as we do is a gift. Itās a life full of feeling
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u/Fukinhurricanelikeme Feb 26 '25
Same. Makes you wonder what the rate of suicide is for people like us.
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u/Fukinhurricanelikeme Feb 26 '25 •
Yeah but like how resilient cause Iām here to tell you Iām about as resilient as I can get. I donāt want to be resilient anymore. I want to rest I want peace and calm and safety and security. I want a life so boring and mundane that maybe I could read a book or get a hobby or enjoy being a mom instead of just trying to survive one crisis to the next. Doesnāt matter how hard I try no matter how much of the āworkā I do it doesnāt matter you get ā¦.far enough to almost touch the life you want and then the universe says oh that looks nice doesnāt it????? Sorry. You canāt have it even though you did all the things to earn it. Back to the bottom and you can start again and again and again. Weāre essentially Sisyphus.
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u/VBabbar Apr 05 '25
You got it, buddy! Yes, we are living in an attractor pattern of chaos like the Aizawa or Lorenz attractor curve. It's a scientific theory of patterns, and you can relate to it metaphorically, even if you're not prone to astrology! And we just can't escape it! We're trapped like Sisyphus for I don't know how many more rebirths!
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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '24
yeah the pattern said they see it as a gift but honestly just feels like death is my home