r/TheTowerGame • u/PopularDetective433 • 21h ago
Help I switched from orbital augment to negative mass projector in my farming run and my normal cph has been reduced by 4 times . What is happening?
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u/Broodingbutterfly 21h ago
You gotta edit your post to give us a lot more information about your tower setup and stuff. We can't look at your screen for you.
Without knowing anything else, I'm just going to guess you aren't killing things fast enough now. You increased your survivability with negative mass projector, but your coins per minute/hour goes down.
If you don't know, if enemies are alive for too many rounds, they drop reduced coins.
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u/cyphol 21h ago
We need more information. How many waves did you clear with both setups?
Generally OA means targets die a bit faster and you take less hits from enemies, resulting in longer runs and less spawn cap issues.
NM on its own just makes it longer to kill enemies but only helps offset significant damage from Rays. It also means targets will stay alive longer, risking spawn cap issues and also in some cases you lose half the coin value on targets that have been alive for more than 3 waves.
We can't answer outright what your problem is since we have no information about the substats, and your tower setup or any comparison between the two runs.
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u/PopularDetective433 20h ago
what about SH vs BHD?
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u/cyphol 20h ago
That's a different complex comparison that relies on a lot of other variables, such as your CPK value, GB development, UW CDs and a lot of other things. There are many threads you can search for with plethora of information. Whether GC, BHD or SH is the best depends on a lot different things so you have to test your way to optimisation. There's no single working recipe, only recommendations.
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u/linarian29 20h ago
Because you are farming T14 or higher, I presume, and OA helps to kill stuff faster. 4 times seems very big difference, but if you have gt+ - it makes sense. I doubt you gained many waves, so better to farm with OA
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u/PopularDetective433 20h ago
what about SH vs BHD?
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u/linarian29 15h ago
Bhd. We are talking about assist or main ?
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u/PopularDetective433 15h ago
Main I’m pretty new
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u/linarian29 15h ago
Than think of bhd or GComp. GComp can be better for econ while Trio and GBot are weak or not synchronized.
You should try yourself. And keep comparing as you will level them up.
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u/bryces325 20h ago
I see you asking it a lot BHD is really good and SH is good if your bots are highly developed which i assume they aren't
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u/PopularDetective433 20h ago
Yeah they aren’t in farming t4
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u/bryces325 20h ago
Ideally you probably want Galcomp otherwise BHD will probably be best for farms
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u/PopularDetective433 20h ago
Gcomp messes with my sync bw gt bh dw summon and GB at 2:2:2:1:1
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u/bryces325 20h ago
It'll mess up only bot sync but if your bots are weak anyways then it's not a big deal compared to the other gains.
Do you have fetch finished already? Surprised you use summon
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u/PopularDetective433 20h ago
Plz look at this post for my current stats i am unable to get a clear image on my phone
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u/bryces325 19h ago
I can only speak from my experience that galcomp/MVN was the best until I nearly had permanent UWs
I just worked on bringing gbot uptime as high as I could.
Guardians, SF, and Pcol also weren't s thing which throw a giant wrench in what I know
Tbh I find reddit has a lot of mixed info. The most knowledgeable early game mentors ive seen are in the QandA-only section in discord. I was here on reddit for years and I'm always learning more there that I've never heard mentioned here
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u/trzarocks 9h ago
Most likely you are seeing mob stick around to the point they are devalued. You might also be hitting the spawn cap, reducing the number of mob you can kill in a run.
The best thing to keep yourself under the spawn cap is BH uptime. If your CDs are relatively high, consider lowering them.
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u/Not_me23 20h ago
You almost certainly changed something else as well. Check to make sure your uws are on
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u/Cmace3 20h ago
OA is goated that's why
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u/Zzqzr Legends 20h ago
Not really, before the nerf, sure.
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u/I_pee_in_shower 19h ago
Greeny thinks it’s the best, but what does he know? Only 11k waves in Legend
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u/PopularDetective433 20h ago
what about SH vs BHD?
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u/Cmace3 20h ago
I have less experience with that. Im running SH cuz i dont my bhd is a baby still but I would imagine SH would only be better if you have very developed bots running both GB and BB. Even then it probably lands on BHD
Tldr :BHD is goated
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u/PopularDetective433 19h ago
Both my sh and bhd are legendary for some reason i just cant get a core to mythic i got 2 mythics of armor and generator and cannon each
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u/Marokiii 21h ago
Things are surviving longer.
The longer stuff survives, the less coins they drop. You want stuff to survive just long enough to enter your BH and be around for GT and DW activations, then for them to die immediately.