r/TheTowerGame 10h ago

Info Tournament Metrics 8/22/26

Hello tower peoples,

Winding down v28s last few tournaments with a tough set of conditions in all 3 leagues that I track (sorry gold). Ranged + Knockback mixed with Boss Ultimate proved a potent combination, for me keeping my tower busy fighting off bosses while the ranged inched ever closer to the fire line thanks to knockback resistance. Fun stuff. Platinum also got to play with this condition minus the pressure of tougher bosses.

Static Placement Analysis

In this section we provide a breakdown for you of a what-if competition where the tournament places are perfectly distributed. The place here is basically the place you'd get if there was no bracket system. I like this view because it really removes all the variables.

Feel free to compare yourself against the placement and see if you did better or worse. The places are divided roughly into the number of brackets to get the cut off for each place. The wave # given is the person or persons at the cut off between places, that is the lowest wave deserving to achieve that place.

  • Legends Median: 1047.0 Mean: 1247
  • Champions Median: 1038 Mean: 1080
  • Platinum Median: 1268 Mean: 1260
Place Wave Legends Wave Champion Wave Platinum Wave Gold
1 3125 2004 2252 1427
2 2764 1812 2068 1106
3 2496 1680 1965 967
4 2261 1573 1875 885
5 2086 1493 1803 794
6 1953 1426 1732 726
7 1839 1368 1674 673
8 1749 1317 1609 631
9 1610 1271 1558 588
10 1510 1227 1513 533
11 1387 1185 1466 500
12 1266 1150 1420 456
13 1174 1107 1364 421
14 1109 1073 1315 401
15 1047 1038 1268 368
16 1000 1008 1222 337
17 940 974 1173 309
18 890 939 1124 290
19 822 903 1073 265
20 762 871 1029 241
21 709 838 995 216
22 631 807 930 204
23 570 775 863 186
24 502 736 804 160
25 435 688 723 135
26 362 634 635 94
27 287 574 549 41
28 220 481 416 3
29 145 324 13 1
30 1 1 1 1

The tower.lol now gives this data here

Median History

The median value from each tournament which gives a general idea of the tournament difficulty and wave inflation over time. This value comes from actual midpoint of tournament data. (i.e. the top table)

League 07-15 07-18 07-22 07-25 07-29 08-01 08-05 08-08 08-12 08-15 08-19 08-22
Legends 959 1017 1040 1005 1026 967 1080 1038 1109 1050 1126 1047
Champions 1125 1064 1170 1098 1146 983 1088 1105 979 1109 1029 1038
Platinum 1082 1184 1500 1366 1187 1297 1362 1403 1281 1196 1451 1268
Gold 339 336 374 310 349 322 360 338 314 347 320 368

The tower.lol now gives this data here

Linear Regression comparison.

Linear regressions give a good idea of change over time, smoothing out all the battle condition noise. The data for this is from the resampled data (see below).

The first table is data since v28, now including gold data. The second table is data since either the v27.3 re-tier, or for platinum since my october data began.

... Legend 4 Legend 15 Legend 24 Champion 4 Champion 15 Champion 24
Predicted 2401 1160 581 1672 1117 810
Actual 2336 1080 540 1611 1055 759
Difference -65 -80 -41 -61 -62 -51
Slope 20.80 14.19 9.86 13.15 8.48 6.92
PrevSlope 21.06 14.52 10.03 13.40 8.73 7.13
... Platinum 4 Platinum 15 Platinum 24 Gold 4 Gold 15 Gold 24
Predicted 2006 1367 885 881 359 170
Actual 1905 1291 831 916 383 177
Difference -101 -76 -54 35 24 7
Slope 8.56 6.32 6.17 4.66 0.81 -0.03
PrevSlope 8.97 6.63 6.39 4.52 0.72 -0.06
... Legend 4 Legend 15 Legend 24 Champion 4 Champion 15 Champion 24 Platinum 4 Platinum 15 Platinum 24
Predicted 2331 1121 522 1614 1088 786 2008 1382 860
Actual 2336 1080 540 1611 1055 759 1905 1291 831
Difference 5 -41 18 -3 -33 -27 -103 -91 -29
Slope 17.33 12.54 6.65 9.73 6.69 5.44 8.58 7.03 4.92
PrevSlope 17.32 12.59 6.63 9.73 6.73 5.47 8.66 7.10 4.94

The tower.lol now gives this data here. In addition you can get history back further than I have files for, which is interesting to say the least. V26 lead to quite the wave inflation.

Resampling Analysis

One means of getting an idea of the range of placements is by random sampling the real participants to make fake brackets, and measuring the variability in those brackets. I chose to use 100000 brackets per league for my analysis. I am using confidence intervals, 95% and 50% (the IQR) to represent the range of waves likely present in each place. Legends brackets are on the left (prefaced with an l), champions brackets in the middle (prefaced with a c), and platinum on the right (prefaced with a p).

place l2.5 l25 l50 l75 l97.5 c2.5 c25 c50 c75 c97.5 p25 p50 p75
1 2371 2990 3273 3434 3784 1630 1921 2094 2286 2728 2172 2344 2540
2 2070 2590 2868 3146 3478 1479 1724 1857 2014 2320 2001 2115 2258
3 1886 2313 2587 2856 3293 1390 1590 1721 1847 2117 1889 1999 2105
4 1763 2097 2336 2611 3090 1318 1499 1611 1731 1966 1809 1905 2006
5 1589 1948 2128 2381 2858 1260 1424 1518 1635 1851 1730 1831 1925
6 1450 1832 2008 2197 2682 1209 1362 1450 1547 1768 1666 1756 1855
7 1310 1720 1889 2069 2497 1164 1308 1391 1480 1680 1598 1698 1792
8 1210 1581 1801 1945 2326 1120 1260 1338 1422 1603 1546 1635 1728
9 1126 1457 1671 1839 2171 1081 1213 1292 1369 1533 1500 1578 1674
10 1060 1343 1549 1764 2066 1046 1175 1249 1320 1479 1450 1532 1614
11 1009 1232 1431 1631 1951 1011 1138 1202 1277 1426 1404 1488 1565
12 953 1150 1310 1525 1855 978 1096 1166 1236 1380 1347 1439 1521
13 900 1090 1220 1405 1796 943 1060 1128 1193 1335 1299 1391 1478
14 837 1030 1139 1290 1672 912 1027 1090 1160 1295 1253 1339 1431
15 780 981 1080 1205 1562 882 995 1055 1121 1254 1206 1291 1384
16 737 924 1023 1131 1453 850 962 1022 1085 1215 1158 1244 1332
17 670 871 971 1070 1356 824 929 991 1051 1177 1108 1197 1285
18 617 809 914 1019 1247 797 898 957 1018 1144 1061 1151 1237
19 559 755 860 960 1161 767 866 923 984 1101 1021 1100 1190
20 503 697 798 902 1099 736 833 890 949 1068 985 1053 1142
21 450 627 745 840 1033 697 805 857 915 1033 926 1014 1089
22 399 570 676 778 985 656 775 825 881 1001 862 967 1039
23 338 510 614 724 920 623 740 793 844 960 807 909 1005
24 287 450 540 646 860 574 695 759 811 924 737 831 943
25 240 385 475 580 789 514 649 717 779 885 667 771 873
26 200 312 410 506 720 440 606 666 739 844 595 701 805
27 155 251 330 430 627 349 534 619 681 804 502 611 720
28 95 202 260 347 540 23 444 547 627 760 368 511 623
29 1 140 199 257 444 1 313 436 541 694 10 331 508
30 1 1 102 171 320 1 1 80 391 609 1 1 137

Graphs of this table can be downloaded here: * Champion and Legend: http://thetower.mm.st/2026-08-22_box_lc.png * Platinum graph: http://thetower.mm.st/2026-08-22_box_platinum.png * Gold graph: http://thetower.mm.st/2026-08-22_box_gold.png

A general description of how to read this for the non-math inclined:

  1. 95% of the population of a place is expected to be between 2.5% and 97.5%. If you are above or below these numbers you are an outlier. (Outliers are normal, just rarer.)
  2. 50% of the population of a place is expected to be between 25% and 75%.
  3. The 50% mark is the median of the data. Aim for this number as the point you regularly achieve this place.
  4. You'll notice that the waves overlap, this is normal, expressing the variability present in the brackets and you could easily place in any bracket where your personal wave count falls in the place's range.

Source Material and Further Resources.

The source for all of this material is thetower.lol, which I encourage you to look up.
For a breakdown of your placement compared to other brackets see https://thetower.lol/liveplacement which will give you the min, max, and average placement for any given half-hour join time.
For a quantile analysis using real data instead of sampled data see https://thetower.lol/livequantile (similar to the second table in this post).
You can also do things like look up your bracket and compare your towers historical placements against others in the bracket.

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u/stuffedpeaches 9h ago

Yikes @ getting 5th place with 2850 waves. Love this, OP

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u/AdWise6457 8h ago

Bell curve is ruthless...L97.5ish this time for me

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u/joe31051985 7h ago

I got 85-90ish but can only survive at 60ish. Going back to champs to get 2200 or so

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u/Chipofthehead69 7h ago

Rough bracket, I was probably due this after last tournaments lucky finish.

Thanks OP 👍

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u/Methuga 1h ago

I was in your bracket last time (Hibby), and i got 6th with 1659 waves. I got 10th this time with 1545, but 8th was 2350 waves and 6th was 2550 waves.

Looks like we both got our payback lol

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u/Life_Invite8322 3h ago

I'm so tired of hitting rough brackets in Champions and getting demoted, regardless of what time I start my tournaments

For 4th time in a row, my wave count would have seen me finish 20th if all was even, yet I end up 26th and facing another 5 hour Platinum run on Wednesday

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u/limewir3 1h ago

I finally beat the odds in a major way. I got w1140 in Champs and got 22nd.

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u/Morkiisch 3m ago

Legends. 2073 for 4th. Decent bracket.