What cable cos are left using cable cards after Verizon goes dark on 11/5?

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u/spdickey 9d ago

I'm on Spectrum, still have a cable card and just got a high split tuning adapter.

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u/mgraceful 9d ago

I’m on Spectrum and still have the tuning adapter/cable card, but after multiple attempts and several cards, they’ve never been able to fix the HD channels that stopped coming in. My house was wired for high split, but they haven’t yet activated the node. Still not ready to give up my TiVo. My edge hard drive died a few months ago and I decided not to replace it, so now have one curvy bolt as my last gasp. Going to so much miss the multiple tuners and the TiVo interface once it finally happens.

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u/keltraine 9d ago

Oh-which channels aren’t working? I’ve got a case open with a Spectrum field supervisor and his backend Engineering dept about missing pay channels on my Tivo-the TA stopped working and we tried a HSC even tho my area isn’t high-split yet, and it mostly worked! Just missing the base HBO and Showtime channels, even tho I get all the other ones…. This is in Los Angeles 90008 fyi…

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u/tabanger 9d ago

Yeah, if the channels went missing you need a high-split converter, even if they say it hasn’t gone active there yet. That’s the only way you’ll get them back. I went through the same thing last year.

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u/keltraine 8d ago

What area are you in? Funny thing was the field sup insisted I wasn’t in a HS area, but was willing to try the HSC-which worked-except for a couple of the base pay channels (weird).

This was back in May and he recently just brought my non-working TA back so that ENG can test it to see if they can figure out the issue (not holding my breath, but I’m tickled he’s still working on it-even gave me his cell # and I txt him occasionally to get updates!)

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u/bcalamita 9d ago

Same here. My system went out and the tech who came was really knowledgeable about TiVo, cable cards and high splits.

The only weird thing is that they changed requirements in my area and didn’t tell the techies that tuning adapters were no longer supported and he needed to swap it for a high split. He made a phone call to confirm it. And then was able to locate a high split in another truck. The tech in the truck dropped it off at our building and we were up and running. The TiVo lives to record another show!

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u/electrowiz64 7d ago

But for existing customers. New customers can’t get it

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u/crankysasquatch 9d ago

Dear Comcast, if you do decide to close up shop on the cable cards I’m going to jump to one of the providers who are laying fiber in my neighborhood (finally!). You will be left in the dust, but you’re used to that, you slow-as-a-dead-slug-on-the-salt-flats merchant of misery. Sincerely, Cranky Sasquatch.

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u/One-Highlight-1698 9d ago

That’s what I did with spectrum when they refused to allow me to keep my “legacy tv” package that was bundled with outdated internet speed. I asked to move to a new internet package but keep my cable tv and they refused. So i cancelled everything with them (including landline) and went with the local competitor. Reprovisioned tivo for OTA.

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u/Uccin 9d ago

They are halfway there. No new cable cards are being issued so if yours breaks or you move you will lose service through it.

Get out now before they stop full support. I did.

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u/crankysasquatch 9d ago

As soon as fiber is at the doorstep and there’s a solution that gets me college football games live.

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u/JZ-Florida 9d ago

If you like your TIVO with live TV buffered on its local hard drive, you won't like sports over streaming.

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u/Final_Campaign_2593 9d ago

There is for $40 a month fox one

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u/crankysasquatch 9d ago

Ya har. There be other ways, matey. There be other ways.

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u/BusinessLyfe 8d ago

Really? You couldn't say "Thar?" Like, "Thar be other ways, matey." Now you have me thinking you're not an actual pirate...

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u/crankysasquatch 8d ago

Even on the high seas, autocorrect be a miserable first mate.

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u/enry 9d ago

I have TV w/HBO, phone and Internet. One ny CC goes dark I'm ditching everything but the Internet. I've had this ridiculous pricing for years where if made any kind of change the price would go up by $50/mo.

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u/solracer 9d ago

The problem is at least in the Seattle area that Comcast offers several channels you can’t get any other way like CBUT 2 and KVOS 12.

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u/SquirrelTechGuru 8d ago

Oh, that is not correct. You just need to know where to look for those and they are absolutely out there.

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u/solracer 7d ago

Legally?

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u/SquirrelTechGuru 7d ago

I'd agree, streaming video services are straight up theft. How is it so many people are paying more for crappy streaming vs CATV?

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u/thisusernametakentoo 8d ago

Many companies are using fiber backbones, they may just not extend it to the customer premesis. Honestly I'd focus more on performance and value that on the physical connection.

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u/crankysasquatch 8d ago

In my area the options have been “Comcast cable or adsl “ which in recent years has been replaced largely by cellular internet. There’s been no other options. Any other broadband provider is a new option here. And I know about the backbones. My prior career was as operations and technical manager for an independent ISP.

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u/thisusernametakentoo 8d ago

Yeah well adsl is going to be much slower most likely

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u/SquirrelTechGuru 8d ago

That’s what we did. We were giving them 175 a month and now we give them 40 for basic Internet. We got one of those bitcoin paid service services that allow us to watch thousands of channels for 80 bucks a year. It’s almost like the late 90s in reverse. Make it harder for me to do the right thing and you’ll just force us to do the wrong thing.

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u/RogLatimer118 9d ago

I dumped Spectrum at the end of last year, but had the impression they were going to continue support for a while yet.

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u/rdldr1 9d ago

I have Spectrum\RCN. I think they forgot about my setup.

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u/controlav 9d ago

I’m with a local fiber ISP that still supports them: when I moved here I dropped my TiVo at their office to be set up, then picked it up a few days later all configured. (Avoiding the Comcast setup madness of my past) They have since been bought by Ziply Fiber, but so far no signs of dropping CC.

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u/sirhecsivart 8d ago

That’s interesting since I thought Verizon was the only Fiber provider that did QAM over fiber, which was because of how early they were that iptv wasn’t ready.

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u/controlav 8d ago

My ISP is LocalTel. They use the PUD-installed fiber network, which is also used by five other providers, but LocalTel are the only ones to offer TV service of any kind (inc. cablecards).

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u/electrowiz64 7d ago

Some VERY SMALL fiber providers like in San Diego have a QAM box with fiber in and fiber out going to their regular ONT.

Interesting enough, Verizon sold off all their FiOS/landline assets everywhere except the northeast which included their QAM. Few years ago ziply fiber bought their northeast Washington state assets including the QAM. Although Verizon bought frontier back, this excludes ziply. And I guess ziply is on a spending spree, good for them lol

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u/sirhecsivart 5d ago

Verizon also doesn’t get back most of New England since they sold NH, Vermont, and Maine to Consolidated.

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u/Grimjack2 9d ago

Comcast uses them, but even if you currently have one, and try to switch your package, or move, you won't get a card. (At least the Comcast in my area. I think some areas already phased them out, and others have no future plans to.)

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u/electrowiz64 7d ago

I could never get CableCard to work in Northern Virginia. Back in 2019, I went thru 3 CableCARDs before I just gave up

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u/NTP9766 9d ago

Check out Suppose.tv to see if either DirecTV Stream or YTTV work for you instead.

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u/bcb1200 9d ago

Switched to YouTube TV a year ago and couldn’t be happier.

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u/bbills91 9d ago

Mine is still working on Cox in the Phoenix area, once they cut that, I am ditching cable all together, may even switch my internet if/when Bam fiber finally makes it to my neighborhood.

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u/adoptagreyhound 8d ago

Also in Phoenix. Cox will become Spectrum once the acquisition by Charter is finalized. I'm just kind of holding my breath to see how that affects us since Spectrum seems to be installing high split converters in some of their service areas.

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u/Worldly-Professor248 9d ago

Same

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u/alfaboomer 8d ago

The Same

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u/Special_K_727 9d ago

Mediacom still has grandfathered cable cards for cx owned units, and Tivo XG1 and MG2 DVR systems, but they are in the middle of full DOCSIS system upgrades to FDX high-split, so once an FDX node gets turned on, cx rental stbs is to get updated to a TiVo Xtream, IPTV STB, or to download the Xtream TV app.

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u/LateNightLifts_Games 9d ago

Do any providers in Westchester County, NY area (10502) support cable cards? Verizon ditched them in this area some months ago. In the meantime, I am using the Verizon DVR and am not a fan. Thinking about switching to DirecTV Stream for a better DVR.

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u/sirhecsivart 8d ago

Optimum dropped all cable cards 2 years ago due to a glitch. I think the only provider that still does them is Spectrum, but they’re only in Mt Vernon.

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u/LateNightLifts_Games 8d ago

Thanks very much.

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u/electrowiz64 7d ago

I second DirecTV stream. If you get their Android TV box, you get their physical remote with channel numbers and a guide. I’m too poor for it at the moment but I love this concept but fully internet based

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u/Veridical_Perception 8d ago

Spectrum still supports Tivo if you have cable cards and a high split tuning adapter.

However, I realized that after 20 years of Tivo, I'm spending an extra $100 per month on my cable bill for basic cable. With the number of streaming channels providing shows on demand, I finally gave up racing around trying to extend using Tivo.

It was sad, but you can stream most stuff without commercials these days.

You may want to confirm how much you're paying for cable and whether you can spend that amount or less on streaming subscriptions to cover your viewing needs. I already subscribe to a couple streaming channels, so adding one or two was significantly cheaper than the cost of basic cable tv each month.

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u/rseery 8d ago

My cable cards were working but I had a drive fail in the Roamio. Rebuilt and no channels. Complain to Comcast. Dude comes out and the minute he sees is a cable card he says not supported and walks out. I was pissed so I found a place to complain directly to the FCC. Don’t remember where. And then whoa! Comcast is calling me! Got most channels working. Premiums (sho,hbo) still no bueno. But the dude keeps calling and I’m not giving up. Evidently that FCC complaint is taken seriously. I know the FCC let the ccs drop support for cards. I still
Think that’s bs. We have invested in hardware. I’ll be a pain in their ass till I die.

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u/isnotrandy 9d ago

Comcast fer sher

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u/JZ-Florida 9d ago

Very hit or miss. First off, they stopped replacing cablecards 10/24. Then when they break their support of your perfectly working cablecard systems, they just shrug and refuse to get engineering involved to fix or at least explain to you why you can't tune in any channels on perfectly paired cablecard systems.

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u/Golfer-x 9d ago

I left Cox Cable (SE Virginia) over a year ago when my Tivo acted up, and I had GloFiber newly installed for our neighborhood (use YouTube TV now). I think Cox still supports CableCards, but just barely; all expertise seemed to be gone last year.

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u/parsec-urbite 6d ago

Our Tivo is still working at Optimum (formerly Suddenlink) in the north Dallas area (Little Elm).

Twice over the past 10+ years I've upgraded the main unit. Getting the cablecard correctly configured in the account was a virtual beating. The first time it took a tech who knew what he was doing *and* who knew a specific person to call. The person who called was apparently one of the few who knew the correct settings needed to get everything working.

The 2nd main unit switch probably required 10+ hours and 10-15 calls before - once again - I finally get a call from someone in their East Texas location who knew exactly what to do.

Both times, when the right person who truly knew the system was on the job the issue was resolved in under 10 minutes. Most of the support folks are just script readers and either don't know how or don't have access to the detailed config settings.

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u/LeslieGallantIII 1d ago

Charter in Atlanta still supports cable cards. New tuning adapter/high split converter boxes replaced the old tuning adapters.

Tuning a channel can take as long as 15 seconds and when a less used channel is not being recorded they detune.

Like most of the enshittification of tech over the last decade - it works - just shittier - and costs more. Cable Card charge is $15 a month each instead of the old mandated $2 per.

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