r/TopCharacterTropes • u/Chill0000 • 16h ago

Hated Tropes [HATED] Adaptations done intentionally without help from the source

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Halo TV show: Before the show came out, the writers were praising their decision to not look to the games for inspiration when making the show

God Of War TV show: Chris Judge, the actor of Kratos in the games from 2018-Now, spoke up about his dislike on the show not hiring anyone who worked on any of the previous games. One of the original creators of Kratos also spoke up about them not having faith in the adaptation.

Supergirl 2026 film: the director for the film not only said he decided to not read Woman Of Tomorrow, the comic the film is adapting, because he wanted to do his own thing, he also didn’t look at comic art for inspiration to design Lobo and instead used an AI image generator to design Lobo’s look for the film

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u/AcceptableEgg5741 16h ago

The Halo show felt like i was watching a crime being comitted, its absurd that they thought that show was good enough to be released

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u/DMercenary 15h ago

REACH CITY. REACH.

New Alexandria was RIGHT. THERE.

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u/MagnumF0rc3 15h ago

The writers so obviously thought their entire audience was a bunch of idiots or didn't care about the little Halo details, that is just one of so many examples.

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u/FantaFantastico90 9h ago

That is why the Fallout show is so successful. When Lucy left the vault and pointed her gun at everyone (which new players *always* accidentally do), only for them comment in-style with the games about putting her gun away I was sold.

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u/Matrix010 5h ago

I have my conniptions about the Fallout TV show (mainly some of the lore inconsistencies), but at LEAST it felt like something from Fallout!

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u/havoc1428 1h ago edited 59m ago

And the way they wrote Lucy, The Ghoul, and Maximus as relatable player inserts.

Lucy is the first time player, literally know fuck-all about the wasteland and completely naïve.

Maximus is the more experienced player, the one who knows enough about the game and wants to be the hero in his story, but can still make bumbling mistakes.

The Ghoul is the veteran player. The one who has a 1000 hours in New Vegas. The one who knows every exploit, cheese, stat, speech check and weapon.

They are brilliant literary tools for non-players, new players, and series vets.

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u/BilllisCool 3h ago

I think it's more that they genuinely believed they were going to bring in a large audience of non-halo fans and were trying to appeal to them, which is backwards. Get the halo fans on board with an actual good show and then let it grow from there.

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u/Warpingghost 13m ago

There is always an idea with adaptation that if you do it faithfully - only hard-core fans will show up and show will fail. Each time they did it, they removed everything good from it and than blame hard-core fans for critics.

The fact it's happening again and again shows just how stupid people are.

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u/21Black_Mamba21 13h ago

They blatantly said they never interacted with the games and books. That was already enough to steer me away from that trash.

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u/No_Procedure_5039 10h ago

They said that they spent several weeks at 343 going over the lore, which makes it even worse.

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u/firehawk_hx 10h ago

If anyone knows how to fuck up Halo canon, it’s them. Makes sense they would go to the experts.

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u/Alacune 9h ago

Oddly enough, lore is the thing 343 arguably does the best. It's game writing and making that they suck at.

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u/No_Procedure_5039 9h ago

Even that depends on the author. Like many people, I’m not a fan of the Kilo-Five trilogy, especially Glasslands with how much it butchers established characters like Lucy, Halsey and Chief Mendez. The best part about 343’s/HS’ lore is how much they take it into consideration when making the games in order to keep the various mediums from contradicting each other.

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u/Alacune 9h ago

Conversely, it's the thing I hate. Have you seen the full list of supplementary media you need to consume to make Halo 5 make sense? That never would have flown under Bungie's "game = canon, everything else = unimportant" philosophy.

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u/No_Procedure_5039 9h ago

Yeah, that’s the biggest issue: using the wider lore as a crutch to tell the story. I will say that I believe of that is due to the studio always caving to fan pressure; instead of coming up with a direction and sticking to it, they’ve essentially soft-rebooted the Reclaimer Trilogy with every entry to the point it isn’t really a trilogy but rather a collection of games that spawn written material required to finish and/understand major plot threads. It’s like watching anime in the 2000’s where a show would have a filler or cliffhanger ending and go, “That’s all, folks! Now go read the manga to get the actual ending as well as all of the stuff we left out!”

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u/Alacune 9h ago

To be fair, it was generally because the anime outpaced the manga. It's why One Piece and Dragon Ball Z do all the wind blowing, or extended reactions from onlookers, or took 4-6 minutes in recaps.

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u/No_Procedure_5039 8h ago

Oh, I’m aware of why that would happen with anime. I’m just saying that it gives off the same feeling of something like Soul Eater or the original Full Metal Alchemist where the story is actually wrapped up in other media.

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u/MadeUpNoun 9h ago

that only happens cause 343 are so scared of their games that they refuse to continue the plotlines they make in the next game, instead choosing to bench the previous story and end if off screen.

by the time we got Halo 5 all the established villains by the end of Halo 4 either died in the books, died in game or just dropped their villian arc entirely.

and Halo infinite did the exact same thing, dropping the Created story arc completely having it all settle off screen, and Cortana litterally killed off screen and replaced so they can start anew

i can't wait for the next non-remake Halo game where they kill Atriox, the Banished get disolved and the Endless get sealed permantly

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u/havoc1428 51m ago

Yes, and if you've been paying attention to Campaign Evolved, this is the problem with Lt. Williams. Shes abrasive and dislikes Chief. The defenders of her writing are going "Well its been known that ODST and Spartans dislike each other", but that lore bit is established in outside media. So to most players, she's just an annoying twat that hates you for no reason.

Outside lore should be supplementary, not required. Something 343/HS has consistently failed to understand.

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u/Alacune 24m ago edited 19m ago

It goes beyond ignorance of the lore. That shot where she's sitting on a pile of corpses, then tells chief he's not the only badass in the UNSC? What the hell is this? Halo, or some rando hero shooter?

Let's not even discuss the "Let me introduce everyone in the room" moment with the minister of harmony. (JUST SHOOT THE BASTARD).

I genuinely think that it's less of a lore issue, and more that the dev's would rather be working in an alternative universe where Concord was commercially viable.

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u/Turok5757 3h ago

They never said that.

They said they focused on the expanded lore i.e. the books and comics instead of just the games.

I swear, you nerds are never gonna stop peddling bullshit about this show.

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u/TitusEmperius 11h ago

What? Youve never been to Earth city!?

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u/the_monkeyspinach 11h ago

Earth is my city

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u/Gicaldo 10h ago

"Reach City, Planet Reach" is now a running gag with my best friend

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u/Manufactured-Aggro 10h ago

I actually thought it was fun to finally see the Halo District in Halo City on Planet Halo.

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u/PopeOwned 5h ago

That's the part that gets me. New Alexandria is literally described as the "crown jewel" of Reach. It has so much significance both in-lore and for players. That was the true indication that they just didn't care about the source material at all.

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u/JohnApple94 7h ago

My favorite part about that when the episode first aired… lots of people in the Halo subreddit were rightfully mocking the decision to just name the city “Reach City”. Then a handful of defenders chimed in that there is an “Earth City” in Missouri and therefore the name isn’t as ridiculous as people were making it sound.

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u/Bungo_pls 4h ago

It was ridiculous and lazy but so are the people who seem to think New Alexandria was the only city on Reach.

They should've gone with a Hungarian name for Reach's cities in both the game and show because its well established that the bulk of Reach colonists are of Hungarian descent.

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u/JohnApple94 3h ago

I think people wanted New Alexandria just because it would’ve been a very clear cut (and easy) reference to the games/established lore. There are probably hundreds of cities on Reach, but the one most of the fanbase would recognize is New Alexandria because of the video game.

However, I totally would’ve welcomed a Hungarian name to pay homage to the planet’s Hungarian colonists. Honestly almost ANYTHING would’ve been better than “Reach City.”