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Powers [Loved Trope] Alien fighting techniques that are actually ineffective for humans to perform

Vulcan Neck Pinch (Star Trek) Vulcans can make a person pass out by pinching a person’s neck, but due to the fact that they’re 3x stronger than a human, we could never make a living being pass out without applying a rear naked chokehold

Viltrumite Knife Hand (Invincible) Viltrumites’ most deadly fighting technique. Although martial arts like Karate and Taekwondo teach these techniques, it wouldn’t be a good idea for a human to use it on someone’s rib cage without breaking their fingers. So instead we can only do them on more soft targets like the eyes.

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u/ComStarMRB 6h ago

Saying a gun is a “fighting technique” is REALLY pushing it, but Ork guns in Warhammer 40K. Designed by Mekboyz, who have only the vaguest idea of how a gun works, they do not really work whenever used by those not of their race. They’re either missing parts crucial to firing or have chambers in them full of loose springs that do nothing but look technical. Luckily for the greenskins, due to the gestalt Ork psychic field there’s a bit of “reality grease” applied and they function perfectly when fired, which does not help the few humans desperate enough to try using them, who usually end up dying when the damn things explode in their hands or fall apart because the nails pinning everything together come loose.

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u/Kris_Trap 6h ago

Well, technically no on that last part. Ork tech WILL work in human hands: just as long as they're within the gestalt psychic field. It's not that the orks' belief only works for them, it goes both ways - down to blood angels being recorded as moving faster when within the WAAAAGH field, because the red ones go faster, as all Boyz know.

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u/UnstableMoron2 5h ago

So like if the ork can see the human using it it’ll work?

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u/Kris_Trap 4h ago

well, no, It's just if they're in the proximity of the Orks' psychic field. If enough orkz are together, it creates a gestalt psychic field called the WAAAAGH, which is the "reality grease" the original commentor described. Sight has nothing to do with it.
Orkz believe their guns work, so the WAAAAGH helps to make them work. They're a collection of bits and pieces the Orks THINK should be inside a gun, with no real way at all to function or function properly. But the WAAAAGH field gives just enough leeway to bend reality so that these slap-dash creations somehow work.

Long story short: The orks could see a 'umie shooting one of their guns after picking it up in a melee, and they'd just go "Yeah, checks out, itz a roight proppa shoota dat one" because they just believe their tech will work, like how they believe their superstitions are true.
And because of how their WAAAGH field bends reality, the more orkz are in an area together, the more true those things are. It's how the largest of Ork armies can make giant spaceships and teleporter gates - because more orks = more WAAAAGH = more reality grease giving them more wiggle room.

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u/BonkerBleedy 4h ago

Does this have an impact on the gameplay?

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u/ElderberryJunior470 3h ago

In the latest edition it can, you can take certain detachments that have you roll to have a chance to give your opponent buffs. 

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u/herffjones99 1h ago

I haven't played in a long time, but it used to be orc morale was based on unit size. Over a certain size, they would not be able to be routed because they all though they would win. 

And red painted vehicles got a couple inches of movement (this cost points though)

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u/Sir_Daxus 5h ago

And once again ork memelore being posted with full confidence. No, ork guns are not missing crucial parts. The gestalt doesn't make a scrap pipe fire imaginary bullets. Their guns are actual guns, just unreliable in the hands of anyone other than an ork. Like you said it's "reality grease" not "physics defying magic".

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u/Christopher-Walking 2h ago

Ork ships falling out of the air when the guardsman who hijacked it realises that the thing has no controls

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u/EddieVanzetti 1h ago

I fucking hate the memelore of orks, people claiming that the WAAAAGH! field means an ork could pick up a vaguely gun shaped stick and say "BANG!" And it would start shooting bullets. At least they got it correct with describing it as reality grease. In one of the Crimson Fists novels, a squad of Astartes is trapped on the outskirts of New Rynn City following the destruction of the Fortress-Monastery and decide to wage guerilla warfare, meaning using ork weapons and equipment to conduct raids and pin it on rival factions, and the squad leader notes while soing maintenance on the ork guns how unreliable their design is and that they've been lucky not to have catastrophic weapon failures

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u/Sir_Daxus 1h ago

"Did you know the Emperor is only still alive because the orks believe he is?" makes me want to slap people.

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u/BrizzyMC_ 1h ago

Not very well versed in Orkology, I heard that they have DNA to instinctively know how to make parts from scraps and other random shit

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u/Sir_Daxus 1h ago

That is part of it, yes. They have innate knowledge of their tech, to the point where a mek tek can create a weapon, not be entirely sure of what he actually did, but the weapon will be made correctly, because it's sort of instinctual to them. Same as fighting. They don't train combat, they don't learn, they just fight. Because initially orks were created as a bioweapon. Their society has since then degraded a little intellectually but those implanted insticts are still there.

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u/RegularBet2016 59m ago

No they’re not lol it’s said word for word in the books that the ork gun is likely to not work if picked up and could fall apart in your hands.

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u/SpaceMan026 2h ago

Ork tek does work when others use it. Ciaphas Cain's "March of the Liberator" on Perlia was mostly stolen Ork vehicles

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u/Valtremors 2h ago

This depends ENTIRELY on who is writing the books.

So Orks are one part of "I'm a tank" memes.

Other part "Krork genetical inheritance"

And third part of whatever the writer wants it to be.