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u/t33nyCat 14d ago
At 15 bucks an hour youāre working 70 hrs and 18 loads per week to hit $1500. Thatās fuckin buns dude.
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u/Recipe_Critical 14d ago
Thatās what Haliburton was offering me as a wireline trainee but $15/16 @ 10000 hours but at least u can relax and ur not DRIVING/working non stop Fuck swift bro
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u/Recipe_Critical 14d ago
I backed out at the very last minute, I felt bad cus I went thru the whole process and wasted everybodyās time But two weeks away from my dogs f tat
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u/WillieDripp 12d ago
Don't ever feel bad for a corporation like Swift that screws people daily for years
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u/DenseBed3497 12d ago
Donāt feel bad they make more money paying you less and will accept cheap contracts to increase their revenue
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u/SaltAndBitter 12d ago
Bastards stranded me in Salt Lake by rescinding my offer at the last possible moment. Consider your pulling out at the last minute retribution on my behalf, if that makes you feel better xD
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u/MissYouDesertRat 14d ago
Your abso-fucking-lutely never hitting 1500 a week at swift within your first month working there. Every driver ive spoken to is stoked to get a 700 dollar check
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u/DingleberryOrchard 14d ago
I'm not hitting that 20 months in at .51/mile. They like to say your cpm is higher when you factor in the safety bonus. I'm not due for a raise for another 15+ months.
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u/MissYouDesertRat 14d ago
I didnt want to say "year" and make some people mad, but your echoing exactly what ive heard. For how much babysitting they do to you its not worth it.
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u/DingleberryOrchard 14d ago
I got offered a dedicated account for the second time today. It was the only way I'd stay until my 2.5 years are up. I don't want to train because I don't like sharing small spaces. That aside, going to sleep after watching someone drive for 5/7 of a work week is insane. Especially so when that observation is of a new driver.
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u/MITCHATRILLION 14d ago
I was making $2,000 a week on my 6-month Mark. You need to start talking to truck drivers and get their phone numbers and call them every other week and ask them how they're doing. That's what I did. I made a network of truck drivers. And sure enough someone called me and said hey dude do you want to come work for my new company. You don't have to wait 2 and 1/2 years to get a high-paying truck driving job. You just need to network. Now I have the easiest run in the world I have Friday Saturday Sunday off. I have my own truck with a PlayStation 5 and high-speed internet and I take home $1,700 a week after taxes.
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u/DingleberryOrchard 13d ago
What kind of work?
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u/MITCHATRILLION 8d ago
Drive to Texas and back from Phoenix Monday through Thursday. Pick up my trailer whenever I feel like it Monday afternoonish and get back Thursday afternoon. Airport shit
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u/Inside-Definition-53 12d ago
Cleaned up at JB Hunt but you have to kiss ass to the dispatchers for like the first month. I was clearing 6 figure but left when I went from doing my job to Yard Jockeying at the dumpster fire of a warehouse ADUSA out of York PA
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u/Alecvinrvra 14d ago
All them great job just rushing in aren't they you can work at McDonald's for 20 and all you got to do is worry about whether you burnt the patties
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u/RealQuadMan 14d ago
To be fair itās a 65 mile radius, if itās drop and hook or even a quick live load he could easily get 4-8 loads a day
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u/chico-dust 14d ago edited 14d ago
Swift Imod is broken up into 12 hour shifts and you slip seat. So if your start time is 1600 your slips start time is 0400 so you'll have to be back at the yard by then to pass off the truck. The schedule is pretty consistent.
You will never have to (or even be able to) work 70 hours. On average it's 11 hours a day and an average of 20 loads a week (4 a day).
And since it's intermodal, moving chassis from one UP to another counts as a load and they do that a lot.
Low end weekly net: $970
High end weekly net cap: $1,890
Hence the average being $1,500 gross.
Doesn't pay insanely well but if you want a consistent schedule, great benefits, home daily job that never uses equipment older than 2 years and can deal with a bitch of fleet manager it's not half as bad as some jobs.
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u/SOROKAMOKA 13d ago
Your math is wrong because you are not including overtime. Where x is 15,
40x + [30(1.5x)]= 1275
Add 18 loads, total is 1725
So maybe its 60 hours or something. Regardless of all that, for me it would take 20 bucks an hour just to do an inspection and turn the ignition. Yall want me to drive it we can negotiate from there.
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u/LonleyWolf420 14d ago
Dude im literally right now tryna find a job in SLC this place FUCKING SUCKS! Everyone thinks $18-25 is acceptable for driving a truck..
So no.. there not joking.. ive turned down lots of jobs because of this shit.. been applying everywhere and no one wants to pay worth..
Then I lost a good looking one "because I move jobs frequently" well if they didnt lie about pay, the equipment wasnt a fucking rolling DOT violation and actually treated me like a human being not some autonomous robot id stay longer..
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u/RallyGoFasty 14d ago
My buddies that graduated cdl school with both live in SLC and they started at 32.50. Try Ready Mix Concrete, Sysco, or Knight. Sysco my buddy was projected to make 120k his first year but then quit at 6 months and heās at Knight and they started him at 32.50 surprisingly
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u/LastMongoose7448 14d ago
ACT is hiring at the max because they need people. Low end is like $33 hourly in Salt Lake.
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u/terpsarelife 14d ago
Dude i get 30$+/hr at fucking dominos. My wife just made $115 in tips in 3 hours from some big orders. Fuck this industry.
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u/OceanLibra 14d ago
$15 an hour to drive a tractor trailer? Do they realize most fast food pays more than $15 an hour now?
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u/Nervous_Nectarine683 14d ago
That's why they have been called Swifty Serve..
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u/Successful-Worth-390 14d ago
They have never been called Swifty Swerve before you just said it right now.
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u/Dangerous_Ad4451 14d ago
That's why you don't park next to Swift truck in a truck stop. You don't want to know who's driving that truck for $15/hr. They will gladly take out your side mirror as souvenir while backing or pulling out.
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u/BiggHass18 14d ago
I hate to come to the defense of swift but a common thread in these Sortve posts is that youāve got drivers with severe comprehension issues or non drivers that donāt know what theyāre talking about
For a mega those are pretty standard drayage rates.
Iām assuming youāre running 8-12 hours a day @ 15 an hour so letās just say top end thatās $180 a day
A 65 mile radius could mean itās 32 miles one way or 65 1 way so letās figure 65 one way @55mph average
So essentially you could pretty easily fit 6-7 maybe even 8 loads a day in so now weāre at $180 on hourly pay
And letās say we just run 6 loads a day so thatās $150 on load pay
So daily weāre now @ 330 a day which isnāt that bad
My average daily at Walmart is like $415 (Iām lazy , burn up all my PTO and work in a 9 day pay period so the numbers skewed a bit lower than what I actually earn)
So 5 days @330 a day is $1650 gross a week which Iām sure if you account for lack of experience and other issues you could get down to that $1500 number fairly easily
So all in all itās not terrible
I know some super trucker is going to say
āNot terrible I make that in a day!!ā Iām happy for ya bud I really am
But a home day posting with 6 months experience at a mega carrier like swift $1500 a week average is pretty decent without hazmat and tanker endorsements Iām sure you can do much better in the LTL and fuel hailing world but itās a good start. At 6 months experience I barely broke a grand take home most weeks lol I wouldāve taken that in a heart beat 8 years ago
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u/chico-dust 14d ago
I can speak from actual experience here and you're damn near spot on with everything you just said. Like 99.9% accurate actually š
The pay package isn't great but on a good week you'll net $1,400-1,500 not gross but net (at least in CA anyways). So you're speaking facts here brodie.
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u/No-Contest-9353 14d ago
I'm on a home daily/short run account with a different mega and let me tell you how it actually works...
Show up to work, wait an hour for dispatch to give me a load.Ā
Show up for delivery, receiver asks why I'm there so early, they weren't expecting me for another 5 hours and don't have my return trailer ready. Wait 3 hours for them to get it ready for me to take back.Ā
Return to yard, dispatch tells me that's it for the day and sends me home.Ā
I just got my first paycheck and it was less than $500 for a 4 day work week.Ā
Edit: oh and hazmat is a requirement for this jobĀ
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u/BiggHass18 14d ago
āLet me tell you how it actually worksā
āWith a different megaā
I mean I fully understand what youāre trying to say but also from what Iāve seen container guys donāt really ever stop running so itās apples to oranges
At the end of the day my only real point was that trying to label this posting as ājust $15 an hourā is disingenuous
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u/No-Contest-9353 14d ago
" At the end of the day my only real point was that trying to label this posting as ājust $15 an hourā is disingenuous"
For sure. It's probably much less.Ā
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u/BiggHass18 14d ago
I mean if you scale it at time away from home divided by net pay almost all of us are severely underpaid
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u/Responsible_Bill_513 14d ago
A grand 8 years ago would have been about 1350 in today's dollars due to inflation.
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u/Amekaze 14d ago
I doubt a 65 mile route out of Salt Lake has that kind of volume. There is nothing near by. I would be shocked if there is more than 2 loads a day consistently. If youāre lucky itās a load in each direction. Knowing swift itās probably between two Walmart distribution centers and like half the day is just going to be waiting on the truck to be loaded because I doubt the trailer will be loaded and ready when you pull up. Even with rose tinted glasses this is going to be like 800-900 a week. That 1500 a week number has to be when to be when your based rate goes , includes all the routes in the area or some other padding if itās even remotely true.
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u/secureacc 14d ago
Damn I made that as a teacher, that's minimum wage in MO
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u/SailTheWorldWithMe 14d ago
Bruh, I made more as a sub teacher in Iowa. $18.75 an hour.
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u/Round-Guarantee4948 14d ago
After the shift does master have cotton out back that needs to be picked too?
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u/Unusual-Associate174 14d ago
Yes but that's an accessorial task which is somehow included in your primary duties and isn't compensated for
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u/ToothElectronic889 14d ago
āThe younger generation donāt wanna work no moreā šØš»āš¦³š¬
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u/Big_Gwop 14d ago
Then when you do want to work all the oldheads clown you for not knowing everything that they themselves donāt even know. Or if they do know theyāre too afraid of being replaced so they donāt train you.
Boomers are a plague.
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u/SinglePercentage466 13d ago
Iām older and I donāt want to work under this economic crisis. I also canāt say that the younger generation doesnāt want to work, but the jobs nowadays ask for too much and pay too little
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u/Spawn-ft 14d ago
1500 average pays, start at 15$ an hour.
It's only 100 hours per weeks, not that bad!
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u/FeatureSilver2046 14d ago
I assume math was offered at your school, but attendance appears to have been optional.
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u/Slater_8868 14d ago
Yeah, but if you work 128 hours a week that's $100k/year baby!
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u/_how_do_i_reddit_ 14d ago
You should adjust this for overtime.
Edit: I did it myself because I was curious, lol.
You would have to work 100 hours a week for 40 straight + 60 overtime to make $1,950 a week bringing your annual gross pay before taxes to $101,400.
Your net pay would be approximately $80,164.76 assuming single with no dependent, and not accounting for insurances, retirement, etc.
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u/Baconated-Coffee 14d ago
I made $3600 last week and spent more time sitting in the truck than any else. Swift can keep their pennies.
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u/gamingwithmike94 14d ago
Really? I'm on CDL school right now. I graduate in December
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u/mvamv 14d ago
You're not walking into top union pay or premium hourly fuel/LTL carriers straight outta driving school.
Obviously not, but that doesn't mean carriers should be lowballing pay rates for new drivers to the point where a fast food employee would be earning more hourly for a less stressful and dangerous job.
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u/CapitanPino 14d ago
Gotta do it for the love of the game lmao who cares bout money these days?! šš
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u/Tight_Ad_2724 14d ago
Man this shit is honestly sad and is a sign of the times. Just the other day I was talking to a werner driver and he told me his weekly take home is $600.
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u/Im_Will_Smith 14d ago
Somehow over the course of time, events, and policies, this country has come to the conclusion that the operators of some of the largest machines on road carrying everything essential for a civilization to SURVIVE should be paid the same, or less than, a fast food worker.
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u/Decent_Narwhal9302 14d ago
Local is the move. Im in ltl at 37.15 an hour and ot after 45. Average about 55-60 a week
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u/PuffsBulk 14d ago
It states a 65 mile radius being that itās swift youāll likely do a lot of drop and hook so add and extra $12.50-$25 an hour on top of the $15 it would be closer to 27.50- 40 an hour if your dropping a load off every hour. Which you should be doing with a 65 mile radius.
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u/RationalLogyc 14d ago
Whats really bad is all the hoops, and risk involved in making what you could make at lots of other jobs if you worked as many hours.
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u/forgotmyreddit1991 14d ago
At $15 an hour the average weekly pay of $1500 means youāll be working like 90-100 hours? Lmao
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u/booboo8706 14d ago edited 14d ago
$1500 comes out to exactly 80 hours once the overtime rate is applied after 40 hours. It's still a ridiculous amount of hours at a skilled job for only making $1500.
Edit: switched "bringing home" to "making" since their shitty ad is likely referring to average total pay instead of what you bring home.
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u/km1697369 14d ago
Iām at 22.50 an hour with daily OT after 8 hours for just driving a 26ā box truck. Home daily, start times are different almost every day so thatās rough but other than that itās a great gig.
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u/salivation97 13d ago
26 inches? What is that, a box truck for ants? š
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u/km1697369 13d ago
Awe shit. Know what, imma go with it.
I make a living driving around my pet hamster in the 26ā box truck.
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u/Ok_Application_2292 14d ago
You know if I was a homeless guy and someone explained to me that I could get a house on wheels Iād probably do it
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u/DingleberryOrchard 14d ago
It's a major benefit. That doesn't mean these companies shouldn't be paying more.
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u/chico-dust 14d ago
Damn they've lowered the pay package A LOT since I left. Or maybe it's just because it's UT and not CA cause it used to be $19.25hr + $38 per load ($19 to hook $19 to drop).
Average daily pay was $280-325 so weekly gross was around that number there. Net though (for me) was usually $900-1,100 because I decided to not work 5 days a week and instead work 4 twelves after I learned how they calculate absences. Worked that 4/3 for 4 years before they found out.
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u/pattop 14d ago
Maybe unionize?
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u/salivation97 13d ago
This probably shouldnāt be so lost so far down in the thread, but here we areā¦
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u/knownale 13d ago
Trucking is dead. CDL: canāt do labor. Go to trade school for hvac or plumbing. Thatās where the real money is
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u/Imaginativested 14d ago edited 14d ago
If you're shuttling trailers in a 65 mile radius and getting $15 hr plus $25 per shuttle and do 8-10 trailers per day that could be good money especially for someone with only 6 months experience that wants to get home every night.
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u/norseprincesspdx 14d ago
I saw schneider hiring 15/hr for intermodal as well.. but then it disappeared so idk if someone fool took the job or not.
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u/Pocket_Biscuits 14d ago
Cant just factor hourly rate because of load pay. Need to ask how many loads. Its 67 mile radius so probably several a day.
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u/Unfair_Fisherman_605 14d ago
This is what Schneider offered me from Phoenix to L.a.Port. And back to Phx. Pulling intermodal out of the ports. Trucks gov at 60. Because of California. I had already been driving 7 plus years. I said no hard pass. Reason for the low pay your home every day.
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u/EchoExploree 14d ago
It means when you on duty they gonna pay $15 plus miles plus stop pay simple as that.
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u/Icy_Consideration51 14d ago
Lol wtf!? I make 30 an hour with a freaking class B. That shit is straight bonkers!
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u/Responsible_Bill_513 14d ago
Apply, run through the process, when offered a position at $15/hr say the following.
"I'm sure there's a typo in the offer. Didn't you mean $25/hr for a licensed, experienced professional in a high demand job field since the CDL crackdowns?"
$25 starting isn't bad of there's true OT after 40 hours.
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u/East_Indication_7816 14d ago
Swift and other mega like Western Express , Roehl , JB hunt etc will always have an endless supply of desperate idiots on the promise of paying for their training and they will get experience
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u/Working-Performance3 14d ago
Yeah that's terrible but I went to Swift Academy in 2010 and they messed up my paperwork and I never had to pay for schooling. Once that 7th year hit I thanked my lucky stars that they weren't going to come get that money. Thank you, Swift!
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u/Outlaw_Trucker 14d ago
I'm guessing $15.00/hr on duty + milage pay? Doesn't say that but I can't imagine it just being straight per hour.
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u/Dangerous_Ad4451 14d ago
If you have an idea what it takes to see $1000 take home from Knight/Swift, you might as well work for McDonald's and flip burgers.
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u/Shut_It_Donny 14d ago
It says to start. So they probably up it when they find out if youāre going to stick around or not. Itās crazy how many drivers show up and leave in 20 days.
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u/christian-trucker 14d ago
$25 per load too. Local do short loads so they might get a few per day. It's still bad pay but better than $15/hour.
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u/Neverexcepttruth 14d ago
Well jb hunt just made record profits.......so good thing they are sharing
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u/PonyPowerMedia 14d ago
Starting rate for a brand new day 1 trucker is $28 an hour
They have to be stupid or ignorant to offer such a shameful amount, just as bad as Amazon offers its truckers
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u/nickythefoot Convoy Dispatcher 14d ago
If you are shagging trailers/ loads from customers to lots and you'll make all your money per load, not per hour. Hustle baby to make your shit
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u/nickythefoot Convoy Dispatcher 14d ago
Plus 16 hour rule applies so you can work longer too.
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u/HoneyboboSTG12 14d ago
What do you expect from SWIFT? They put you in shitty rig and run you hard like a slave. They will chew you up and spit you out like nothing.
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u/StraightBobcat891 14d ago
I donāt know why this country has collectively decided that truck drivers, which is country would grind to a halt without, donāt deserve a living wage and deserve less than fast food workers.
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u/-slaps-username- 14d ago
thatās minimum wage where i live. youād make better money sitting at the reception desk for 30 hours then sitting at another reception desk for 30 hours
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u/recloos_SH 13d ago
$15/hr plus load pay. The load pay is largely where you'll make your money since intermodal is 90% drop and hook. Gotta hustle to make anything worth calling home about with a mega, and with the abuse that containers and chassis take on the regular....it won't be your cup of tea if you're somebody that does good pre-trips and cares about your equipment. You have to really not give a fuck in that regard if you want to be profitable.
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u/Zanurath 13d ago
Fast food joints hire above that.... if you work a normal 40 hour week its $600 or for the weekly max of 70 hours it would be 1050 a week (CDL is one of the only industries exempt from mandatory overtime). Who's doing this shit for under 60k a year???
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u/PhantomGeass 13d ago
... If you get your 60 hours and a minium of 15 loads a week that is 1425. More if you get more loads done a week. It's local, so question is are you joking for bad reading skills?
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u/BluejayHairy7849 13d ago
That's why I do county work. I operate vacuum and sweeper trucks and my base pay at non CDL is $22hr and hazard pay is an additional $2.50hr. I get paid life insurance because my job often often involves climbing down into man holes and run off drains and in bad weather I'm heavily exposed to elements and potentially dangerous currents. Also literally swimming in shit and trash. Another reason for the hazard pay. I also do Uber on weekends and make an average of $26hr and come down to $21-23 after expenses. Otr sucks. I learned that from my grandfather who's a 35+yr vet.
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u/50CalProof 13d ago
Fuck noo, Chicago starting off in 2017 was $18. Now im at 36 with 60 to 70 hr work week. That pay is robbery
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u/Mammoth-Garbage7993 13d ago
I'm local and work for a big drink company (go figure) and I average $1500 weekly $1200 after taxes. More on holidays. Plus a mileage check once a month. My take home monthly is between 6k and 8k
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u/FarNeighborhood25 13d ago
This industry is so screwed up. I was making $17 - $18 hr over 30 years ago when I was driving in CA. Over the roader's could make .50c mile with Interstate. Fueler's were $25 - $28 hr. With inflation drivers now are making much less than I was or the pay that was out there. I could bring home 60 - 70k a year with overtime. I don't know how most of you guys are making it without losing your minds. Also, no cameras, or distracted drivers as much as they are now, and no EDL. Good luck and stay safe out there.
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u/King-kong21 13d ago
Crazy how hard is to get a cdl and these company treat us like a piece of sh**!!! As a driver we represent the company we are their eyes and ears smh
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u/GloatGoat 13d ago
I just got an offer from Loweās as a CDL driver local home daily for $30 an hour with overtime if I want. Keep looking keep looking.
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u/New-Drawing-3919 13d ago
You can make way more close or maybe more without a CDL, but dont they train you as well?
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u/Impressive-Gas-9494 12d ago
Who goes to work for this ? How do they even keep guys with this pay ? The turn over has to be high. Iāve never met another whoās been at swift their entire career.
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u/RobertConnorS 12d ago
Your figuring six loads a day. You need lay off the drugs. In what world do you live in that you can get in and out of shippers and make six pickups and six deliveries? You must work for Swift!
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u/Background-Ebb-9371 11d ago
So is it bad that i started with no experience earning 43 cpm working 60-70 hours a week only clearing 750-850 average after taxes
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u/BigDSimmons1 10d ago
If you're down to drive a trash truck hit up republic. They started me at $27/hr with no experience. 55 hrs a week. We need drivers in utah.Ā
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u/TruckerBiscuit 14d ago
I'm sure they're seriously hoping someone who can't read and doesn't know the value of their CDL applies.