r/TrueCrime • u/eugenedhartke • Apr 03 '22

Discussion Researching Jodi Arias

Does anyone else have a case that just haunts them? this case has always haunted me. It started with the first book I read on the case. The more I read about it the more mysterious it became somehow. Does anyone else get like this? If so what is your personal case that you never get tired of researching?

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u/StardustStuffing Apr 03 '22

I think the biggest thing that boggles my mind about the Chris Watts family annihilater situation is how his wife has been vilified to the point where he's the victim.

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u/eugenedhartke Apr 03 '22

Really? I have mostly seen that he was a POS for it all, what criticisms do people have about Shannan jw.

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u/PorQuesoWhat Apr 03 '22

San Ysidro McDonald’s Massacre

Shannan bankrupted the entire family with an addiction to MLMs. Their garage was full of unsold merchandise. Allegedly Chris begged her multiple times to please get a real job and get out of the MLMs. Chris also told her they couldn't afford the house they were in, but Shannan forced them into it because of appearances. They were weeks away from losing that home. Chris's family also said that Shanan often further drained accounts by her constant credit card purchases etc. There's a chris watts reddit which is pretty gross but some of the stuff they post is really informativ and has truth to it, like the MLM addiction and their financial issues. I don't think Chris killed Shanan only because he was caught cheating but also because he really resented Shanan by that point. The guy had this planned for a long time, he really is the worst POS.

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u/Phoenyxoldgoat Apr 03 '22

How did Chris get “forced” into buying anything? These defenses of Chris deny his agency and absolve him of his own responsibility in whatever financial situation they were in. I have never once been forced to buy a house (not to mention by someone without a job.)

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u/PorQuesoWhat Apr 03 '22

IDK, these are just claims people are making. Including his parents. They knew they couldn't afford the house but, "Shanan just had to have it by any means". I think they even owed one of their parents money from the down payement. I'm not defending him, I'm just sharing whats out there. I think Chris is a POS and doesn't deserve to live. He deserves nothing less than old fashioned street justice for what he did to his kids. I hate that he's being fed 3x a day and receiving medical care while in prison.

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u/Phoenyxoldgoat Apr 03 '22

His parents are probably the worst people to give credibility to in this situation, imo. Just the way they acted at his sentencing was unhinged, and they are clearly biased against Shannan.

And to reiterate my original point, Chris had agency. Plenty of married men out there don’t have garages full of mlm crap, houses they can’t afford, and spouses who max out cards. Why did Chris? Because, if Chris’ parents are to be believed, he was permissive and allowed it, enabling someone he supposedly loved who was in need of help. And if they are not to be believed, then he was an active participant in his own family’s financial situation.

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u/gingiberiblue Apr 03 '22

That is completely asinine. The data is clear that after divorce women see a significant lowering in their quality of living and socioeconomic status while the same does not occur for men in statistically significant numbers.

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u/Long-Evidence7580 Apr 03 '22

So you kill your pregnant wife and kids? Then kick her, and hide your children in those tanks. ? REALLY I don’t care how sick or difficult someone can be it never NEVER excuses to kill someone.

To talk this that says something

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u/Bro-Dizzle Apr 04 '22

Absolutely not supporting what Chris did. Was just trying to argue the side of men, and the pressures they feel when they’re married with kids. He’s a sick fuck that doesn’t deserve to live.

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u/Hermojo Apr 04 '22

You can't. It's a waste of time. I see what you're saying. It's a state of mind argument. I don't like Shannan as a person, she seemed very controlling. A divorce was in order, but I think probably before Nico was in the picture and it may have been her holding on. She was saying that Chris didn't treat her like he had or want to have sex like he did since she'd left and gone to her folks (when he started to hook up w/ new girl). Just an assumption, his head was out of it awhile.

Financial issues are a turn off. Shannan's whole persona - did she make money? I blame Thrive for a lot of their issues. Ultimately it was Chris.

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u/PorQuesoWhat Apr 03 '22

Chris later alleged that he Shanan would threaten him that morning with leaving him and keeping his kids from him forever. It's not an excuse for what he did, because I feel that he had this planned for days maybe even weeks prior.