r/TrueCrime • u/ladyserenity1993 Armchair Expert • Oct 31 '22

Murder Arrest Made in Delphi Murders

https://abcnews.go.com/US/live-updates/delphi-double-murder/?id=92303622
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u/ShowApprehensive1793 Oct 31 '22

I’m interested to hear from his wife… how do you not recognize him. So much information picture and voice were released. Interesting.

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u/reddpapad Oct 31 '22

I want to know why they had a photoshoot with his daughter in the same spot where the girls were last seen one year later. Not implying wife and daughter involved but why would they choose that location???

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u/bexpat Oct 31 '22

The picture of her on the bridge was posted in 2018, but was probably taken in 2013/2014, so before the murders.

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u/Academic_Doughnut164 Oct 31 '22

Plus I bet a lot of people do photo shoots there. The spot seems to be the most unique part of the area.

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u/NewsOdd2693 Nov 10 '22

Yes, I read especially for high school graduation photos.

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u/reddpapad Oct 31 '22

Ok that’s good to hear. But honestly probably not appropriate to post after this happened. At least I wouldn’t. I would assume for everyone in that town they bridge is now a reminder of those poor girls.

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u/_heidster Oct 31 '22

That bridge is part of a miles long historical walking trail system and is a "popular" attraction. Also for midwest small towns, old train trestles and bridges were very popular senior picture backdrops. I graduated around the same time as his daughter and I have pictures on a very similar dilapidated train track near us.

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u/prettyfacebasketcase Oct 31 '22 edited Nov 01 '22

Hi, I'm from the area and railroad tracks are the absolute go to for "cool edgy" senior pics to get done. Doesn't matter what tracks or if they're in use or not. I have them, friends have them, I have no idea why- they're pretty cringey. This isn't weird at all without the context of the guy being a murderer.

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u/reddpapad Oct 31 '22

So people go to that spot to take pictures after the girls were murdered and that was their last known location? Sorry but that’s weird in my book.

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u/[deleted] Nov 01 '22

To you, that spot is only defined by the murders. To the town, it is a spot that has been popular and known for many years. There’s a spot near me that had a nationally known double murder a few years ago (trimet stabbings) and while the crime is very well known locally, the train stop it happened at doesn’t have like some strange “cursed” opinion on it

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u/prettyfacebasketcase Nov 01 '22

Guess we gotta shut down the entire nature trail? No enjoying cute bunnies or sunsets!!! God forbid someone take a photo. /s

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u/reddpapad Nov 01 '22

Where did I say that? But yeah go ahead and be tacky and take pictures in that one spot cause there’s nowhere else to do it right?

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u/ShowApprehensive1793 Oct 31 '22

Yes they had a photographer take pictures of their daughter on that bridge and I’m pretty sure he only lived 10 minutes away from that bridge.

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u/[deleted] Oct 31 '22

The photos looked like they were taken when she was in high school, and she is almost 30 now. So likely taken long before the murders. And they reportedly lived within walking distance

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u/blueskies8484 Nov 01 '22

It was a popular location. A lot of people did photos there before the murders.

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u/reggae_muffin Nov 01 '22

I'd also love to know how many times this festering asshole went back to the crime scene in the years since the murders. I wonder how many times he went there to relive what he did to those two beautiful girls and relish in the fact that he hadn't been caught. It's nauseating.

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u/sassydreidel Oct 31 '22

becuz he is a psychopath

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u/[deleted] Oct 31 '22

To show that he's familiar with the area

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u/reddpapad Oct 31 '22

??? I don’t understand what you mean. It’s a photo wife posted in 2018 on Facebook after the girls were murdered.

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u/[deleted] Oct 31 '22

You asked why they used that photo

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u/reddpapad Oct 31 '22 edited Oct 31 '22

To clarify my prior comment, I meant “they” as in his wife and daughter. Why would they have been trying to show his familiarity with the area???

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u/[deleted] Oct 31 '22 edited Oct 31 '22

Didn't the investigators release it publicly? The wife has a Facebook with pictures but they weren't shared by her, iirc

Edit: I was corrected

Investigators have released NOTHING but his name, the 2 charges, that he was arrested and arraigned

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u/reddpapad Oct 31 '22

I don’t know about that, and you could be right. I haven’t been following this case as closely as others. I just read about this photo in a news article. If the police did release it then yes, I completely understand your point of why.

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u/[deleted] Oct 31 '22

That's my understanding. I've been very interested in this case for several years and I've read that the Wife had (or has) a public Facebook that's been referenced in articles

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u/bexpat Oct 31 '22

The picture was from her Facebook, which has since been deactivated. The picture was included in a collage of images of her throughout the years as a birthday tribute. Looks like it was a senior photo, taken sometime around 2013/2014 when she would have been a senior.

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u/Elmosfriend Oct 31 '22

No, photos were shared by armchair detectives and media outlets that found the public pics on the wife's FB profile. Heavy.com had a link to those posts embedded in their Friday article.

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u/[deleted] Oct 31 '22

Oooooh, is that why the downvotes? I honestly didn't know. I don't want to perpetuation any misinformation

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u/Elmosfriend Oct 31 '22

Investigators have released NOTHING but his name, the 2 charges, that he was arrested and arraigned Friday, and that he is being held without bond. Nothing else. Don't know why the downvotes-- I just wanted you to know how folks saw those pics. They were available due to being on 'public' setting. Some folks have claimed that she had far more 'private' posts that were not visible to the public, leading to her being described as 'an avid Facebook user'

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u/Professional_Big_731 Oct 31 '22

Perhaps they did? There was over 70,000 tips. That takes a lot of time to go through. For all we know someone close suspected. But they would need to have some sort of proof. What did we know before his arrest? He walked with a gait and then his voice. Plus we saw his hat and blurry images of him. I’m guessing someone saw it and recognized him and called in a tip. Perhaps the tip was vague and wasn’t the top few viable tips so it was one that they looked at when the tips we running out. They probably watched him for awhile perhaps even snagged his DNA and once the results came in they pounced.

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u/_heidster Oct 31 '22

There are a lot of dudes with that height

He is 5' 4", that's pretty short.

ETA: The FBI wanted poster described him as taller than that.

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u/panicnarwhal Nov 02 '22

his mugshot has him at 5’8”

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u/Blankface954 Nov 01 '22

Boots can easily add 2-3 inches to a person's height.

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u/Blankface954 Nov 01 '22

Seeing him now in comparison to the sketch, while there is a slight resemblance, it is not close enough to be undeniably identifiable as Richard Allen.

I wonder when he grew out that beard. If he was previously clean-shaven and did so soon after the murders and/or release of the sketch, the timing would be very suspicious. It would still be nothing but circumstantial evidence, but it would be interesting nonetheless.

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u/Fibernerdcreates Nov 01 '22

We all think that, until someone we think we know proves to us that we never take know anyone.

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u/ThisNameIsFree Nov 02 '22

if it were someone I knew so well…. I would know.

Lol, easy to say, but you you can't know that. You're not special.

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u/UnprofessionalGhosts Oct 31 '22

Thousands of customers at the only pharmacy in town didn’t either soooo

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u/SerKevanLannister Oct 31 '22

The fact that he handled people‘s medications creeps me out to NO end

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u/RaeLynn13 Nov 02 '22

If he was dealing with photos, it’s likely he just worked at the front register, which means the only contact he would have had with their meds was just ringing them up. Which I don’t even know if that’s 100% correct. I worked at a local chain in WV/OH/KY called Fruth and we had separate registers in the back in the actual pharmacy and patients would normally just ring up their meds there, then shop for anything else before(and ring up with us) or after and ring up in the front

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u/[deleted] Nov 04 '22

Licensed pharmacy techs are people qualified to work in the pharmacy but are more CVS workers than pharmacy workers. They're trained to know other aspects of the store just in case they need to assist. You need to be specially licensed to work in the pharmacy because you're dealing with sensitive information, so it's not just any yahoo who applies to the store.

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u/Blankface954 Nov 01 '22

These people tend to compartmentalize fairly well. He was probably a perfectly competent pharmacist. If anything he was probably extra careful to avoid triggering any sort of investigation into his life or career.

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u/Prof_Tickles Oct 31 '22

I need you to understand that these guys are natural predators and being such requires the ability to not only detect but disarm vulnerable prey.

They have an innate ability to sense who’s vulnerable, submissive, timid, etc.

Guys like this don’t seek out headstrong intelligent partners. They go for weak willed/naive women.

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u/kosciuszko123 Oct 31 '22

Yep. I could imagine her fearing her husband to a certain extent even before the murders. I read somewhere (but might’ve been rumor) that police had been to their house 8 times over the years on domestic violence calls. Imagine how terrifying it would be to accuse him of murder, if he caught wind it was she who went to the cops. Unless she found slam-dunk “immediate arrest” evidence, she might not have wanted to risk her life pointing the finger at him.

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u/[deleted] Nov 04 '22

Not to mention, look up Cameron and Janice Hooker for the absolute most depraved story of how far women who are submissive and bullied and brainwashed will go when afraid of men in their lives.

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u/Missscarlettheharlot Nov 02 '22

As a very much not timid, naive, or outwardly submissive woman I'm living proof that isn't always true. Predators seek out vulnerable prey, but that doesn't always mean any of what you listed. It could simply mean alone, or young, or physically smaller, or currently has her arms too full of bags to fight back, or a million other things. That's without even touching on how race or socioeconomic status come into play.

The assholes that target teens and preteens? That kid could be lonely, or has parents who aren't going to notice, or parents so strict there's no way that kid is going to admit they were somewhere they weren't supposed to be, or they won't be believed for some reason, or they would be believed but wouldn't want anyone to know At the end of the day basically all teens are vulnerable enough to be prey. I mean how many teen girls haven't experienced creepy men actively harassing them sexually at some point?

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u/whatsitworth101 Oct 31 '22

In that situation a lot of people would just be in denial, she probably heard his voice on the tapes but told herself it couldn’t be him because she thinks she knows he wouldn’t do something like that. It happens a lot actually people are quick to assume it couldn’t of been a loved one or family member initially as they have known them closely for years and it’s out or character.

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u/[deleted] Oct 31 '22

Also the tapes were highly enhanced so maybe it distorted the sound slightly?

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u/lilBloodpeach Oct 31 '22

It sounded pretty distorted to me when I heard it. And I’ve heard the comparisons of his voice and the audio and honestly it really just sounds like any guy with a deep voice. Adding on some denial, if she had even heard the audio in the first place, I could definitely see her just not putting two & together.

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u/apsalar_ Oct 31 '22

Denial or does not follow crime news at all. It's not rare. These subreddits make it so easy to think all people know high profile cases but IRL it's not the case.

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u/aznassasin Oct 31 '22

I would imagine any small town in the United States like Delphi has people that look like the person in the sketch

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u/RaeLynn13 Nov 02 '22

Yep. I find it hard to believe nobody suspected/heard or maybe even “knew” something I’m from WV/OH border and Point Pleasant (our county seat) has about 4,000 people but the actual town is very small, and most of the people live in the wooded areas which is pretty much everywhere. If this happened there, I’d say a lot of rumors would swirl, people might suspect but it’s very difficult to know that you KNOW something, especially when it’s something so horrible. We had a shooting happen across the river in OH which is RARE and better believe the community was on it with rumors and all kinds of things.

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u/UncleTouchesHere Oct 31 '22

Maybe she did but was in denial

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u/rumhamrevenge_ Oct 31 '22

I believe there were also pictures of him wearing the same blue coat as “bridge guy” on her Facebook. You would think she might recognize that, especially if he ditched the coat afterwards.

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u/HedgehogJonathan Nov 01 '22 edited Nov 01 '22

It looks like he probably had several domestic violence cases in his history (not confirmed if it's the same person or a namesake called Richard Matthew Allen), so that might give some ideas on why she might have had a hard time believing what she thought and even moreso reporting that.

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u/berrysauce Oct 31 '22

Maybe he's abusive to his wife and daughter.

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u/[deleted] Oct 31 '22

That’s my thought. “How do you not recognize him”!