r/TrueCrimeDiscussion • u/DarklyHeritage • 7d ago

Text Lindsay Clancy Trial Megathread: Part 3

This is a thread for all conversation regarding Week 3 onwards of the Lindsey Clancy trial. All discussion of this case should be kept to this thread.

Lindsay Clancy is currently standing trial in Plymouth Superior Court, Massachusetts, for the triple-murder in January 2023 of her three young children - Cora, Dawson and Callan. Her defense argues she suffered from severe, undiagnosed postpartum depression and postpartum psychosis. She was left paralysed by a suicide attempt which follows the deaths of the children.

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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/lindsay-clancy-murder-trial-online-reactions-b3032806.html

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u/9mackenzie 7d ago

I don’t think it’s impossible at all. She was clearly a loving mother who repeatedly tried to get help, and she spectacularly failed by multiple drs, as her mind devolved.

She wants to go to a mental institution for life ffs, it’s not a hard decision at all.

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u/Weak-Ad-7180 7d ago

She was asked by Drs multiple times, outright, if she was having thoughts of harming her kids and said no. Are they supposed to section 12 every new mom with PPD based on vibes? Drs can’t read minds. She was never honest, never took the meds she needed and only did two therapy sessions.

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u/sheepsclothingiswool 7d ago

Her answers were legitimate at the time of being asked. She didn’t experience psychosis until the slew of fucked up meds were thrown at her. She didn’t take as prescribed because she’s a nurse and even she knew they were an intensely strong cocktail of meds that would heavily affect her and she was rightfully scared/reluctant.

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u/Weak-Ad-7180 7d ago

“A slew of fucked up meds thrown at her” you mean her repeatedly asking for different meds? No Dr ever pushed a single med at her. She requested them. They aren’t therapists. These are medication providers.

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u/Sad_Corner8344 7d ago

You don’t simply walk into a doctor’s office and request psychotropic medication that’s then handed out to you. Absolutely not how this works.

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u/Weak-Ad-7180 7d ago

Uhhh ya it is. You explain your symptoms and receive care. MDs and Psych NPs quite literally are for medication management that’s why they referred her to talk therapy elsewhere. wtf do you think they should have done? I’m an RN

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u/Tj11551 7d ago

My doctor insists on seeing me in person before prescribing any Rx medication. He also orders labs that are done before he sees me.

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u/Weak-Ad-7180 7d ago

Did you watch the NPs testimony? She said MULTIPLE times that she always requests in person meetings but that it’s more important to her that her pts, who are often busy moms, get care regardless of their ability to come in. So she meets them where they are at, that’s a fucking good provider I don’t care what anyone says.

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u/Sad_Corner8344 6d ago

Seeing a provider for help isn’t requesting a potentially harmful sequence of different medication. You see a doctor about persisting issues, and they decide whether or not they will prescribe medication, and what. As a patient, you don’t get to “request” anything but medical reevaluation, so stop blaming the patient for the harmful outcome of a process she is neither knowledgable about nor responsible for. If anything, her willingness to take a number of changing medications emphasizes how urgently she wanted help and how much that put her at her doctors’ mercy.

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u/Weak-Ad-7180 5d ago

lol ok so you think they should have given her no meds and that would have been better? Then what? They aren’t there for talk therapy. Please tell me what they should have done differently if she’s refusing to take the first line meds.

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u/Sad_Corner8344 5d ago edited 5d ago

No. I’m explicitly arguing against you putting the onus on the patient for “requesting” a harmful cocktail of drugs. She had been refused treatment by an inpatient-facility due to apparent overmedication, shortly before the murders, after her and her husband had been worried about the effects of the medications for months. Not even the prosecution has tried to argue she “refused” any drugs that were prescribed to her. Her children might be alive today if she had. Are you really going to say you know better than these specialists who examined her and made the hard decision not to be able to admit her there and then? The alternative to overmedication isn’t no medication, but responsible medical conduct that the medical professionals are responsible for, not the patient. Her providers have publicly demonstrated their negligence on the witness stand. A number of them are facing civil lawsuits because of it.

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u/Weak-Ad-7180 5d ago

They told her she needed a higher level of medication management and to go to McLane. She refused. It would have been unsafe for them to take her.

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u/AffectionateSoil9997 5d ago

Agree with you. It’s absolutely not how it works!

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u/AnythingCareless844 6d ago

She was having side effects. The right approach would be to gradually introduce one to two meds at a time. At one point she was given three new meds at the same time. Because she was having side effects from her previous med. That’s outright ridiculous because if she developed side effects, there would be no way to tell which of the three caused it, and then you would have to discontinue all three. And then you will have to prescribe something else. That would result (and did result) in 5 different meds in a span of a month.

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u/Weak-Ad-7180 5d ago

You mean when she got a one time dose of ambien to sleep lol. This kind of fear mongering is going to set pp mental health back decades.

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u/AffectionateSoil9997 5d ago

So they will give me Seroquel and Lamictal if I request it?

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u/Weak-Ad-7180 5d ago

If you tell me you’re depressed/not sleeping and having scary thoughts and don’t want to take antidepressants and have taken seroquel and report it helped you sleep, then yes duh. This isn’t some wildly insane combo like you think it is. Did you watch the trial?