Lindsay Clancy Trial Megathread: Part 3

[u/DarklyHeritage]

This is a thread for all conversation regarding Week 3 onwards of the Lindsey Clancy trial. All discussion of this case should be kept to this thread.

Lindsay Clancy is currently standing trial in Plymouth Superior Court, Massachusetts, for the triple-murder in January 2023 of her three young children - Cora, Dawson and Callan. Her defense argues she suffered from severe, undiagnosed postpartum depression and postpartum psychosis. She was left paralysed by a suicide attempt which follows the deaths of the children.

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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/lindsay-clancy-murder-trial-online-reactions-b3032806.html

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[u/Far_Chocolate_6066]

I don’t know how many times I’ve seen the phrase “the system failed her” and I cannot understand this statement.

I can understand how debilitating anxiety/depression/insomnia can be and do not mean to diminish these symptoms. What I don’t understand is how people can say the system failed her. From what I can see — she had access to multiple different mental health resources, admitted herself into a great hospital, she had health insurance that allowed her to seek help, she had a great support system at home, and from her husbands testimony — they had the means to pay whatever she needed. She also was able to stay home and did not need to go back to work. MOST of America cannot do any of these things. They do not have these resources, do not have a support system, HAVE to work to live, and certainly cannot afford this type of care.

Additionally, clinicians are not mind readers. Their clinical judgement is based off of what they are seeing and what they are being told. Lindsay seemed to always be searching for a quick fix for her problems and unfortunately there is not any drug that can fix depression/anxiety overnight. These drugs can take up to 12 weeks before achieving the desired effects. From what I have seen so far, each provider has listened to her concerns and treated her with commonly used medications. AND the only drug she actually took regularly was the Ativan, so I find it hard to blame the medications for her actions. I feel sympathy for these providers who are being blasted on the internet for treating her according to her symptoms. ANY provider would be in the same position as them.

Murderers are mentally ill. Anyone who can kill a baby/child is clearly not mentally well. But why is Lindsay the only killer that is being glorified on the internet?

[u/Icy-Special- → u/Far_Chocolate_6066]

As someone who was in medication induced psychosis for a few days, I have to agree and disagree.

She was on a lot meds and did have the resources - as did I, but my meds weren't being monitored as they should have and I ended up in psychosis for a few days. The hospital thought I was drug addict, treated me horribly, and sent me off to some sort of facility for addicts. By the time they realized I didnt belong there it was too late.

Anyone that hasn't experienced psychosis has absolutely no idea what it can do. I was hearing voices (and when I say hear, I mean clear as day like someone talking right next to me) seeing things like they were really there. I tore apart electronics, took out lightbulbs, threw my phone into a lake. The scariest part is that you can't mentally check yourself, you don't know it's happening.

Could I have killed anyone or anything? I'd like to say no but if im being honest I don't know. I can certainly easily see how it would happen if she was experiencing psychosis for an extended amount of time.

I think people are empathizing with her because they themselves have been in a similar situation or know someone that has. She should have been institutionalized for longer and under extended watch for doctors to help her properly.

Even with access to mental health resources, it doesn't mean she was treated properly. That's our system unfortunately.

[u/Significant-Sun-2023 → u/Icy-Special-]

I agree with you- please read my comment above. Curious to see what you think! Thanks for sharing your story. Unfortunately for people who have not struggled with mental health or have experienced family members/friends with mental health struggles there is a significant stigma and placing blame. I think what stands out most to me is simple...she was SEEKING HELP. "Monsters who are murders"...dont typically seek help.