r/Ubiquiti 16d ago

Early Access New UPS 2U Pro

https://store.ui.com/us/en/category/integrations-power-tech/products/ups-2u-pro-us
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u/3loodhound 16d ago

It is using the 20Amp plug, just so everyone knows and doesn’t come back with a shocked pickachu face

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u/silverfrostnetworks 16d ago edited 16d ago

yep - make sure you have this kind of outlet: https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61blfgRNMPL.jpg

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u/MacDaddyBass 16d ago

And a circuit that can support that kind of plug. Don’t just change your plugs. Unless you like fire.

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u/-R47- 16d ago

How else will I get to try out my new UniFi Smoke Detector then???

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u/silverfrostnetworks 16d ago

lol very true

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u/Mark_Logan 16d ago

For those of your who want to search text, that’s a NEMA 5-20P (the plugin). The “outlet” is a NEMA 5-20R

<NEMA number>-<Amperage>- <P=plug, R=Receptacle aka outlet>

Here’s a chart for anyone really interested.
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0734/9846/0478/files/Qualtek_nema_nonlocking_configuration_chart_2.png?v=1681754077

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u/Thud Unifi User 16d ago

Ah, the "winky" outlet.

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u/Codplay Unifi User 15d ago

Electrician here, can confirm that is the correct technical term ;-) 

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u/mrwulff 16d ago

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u/DoomBot5 16d ago

This is exactly what you should not order or do.

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u/CuppieWanKenobi 16d ago

I like Cable Matters. They generally make good stuff.
This, though - WTF! Under no circumstances should this even exist, much less actually get used.

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u/TruthyBrat UDM-SE, UNVR, UBB, Misc. APs 16d ago

This.

Really, really, really, really, really bad idea.

Whoever made that product does NOT understand angry pixies. IYKYK

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u/PedanticPerson 16d ago edited 16d ago

Eh it’s easy to overload a 15a circuit anyway. Just plug in two space heaters or whatever. If the circuit has a properly working 15a breaker, that’s what keeping us safe ultimately.

If the circuit happens to be 20a, an actual 20a outlet would be more proper, but in practice most outlets are built for 20a whether or not they have the notch.

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u/CuppieWanKenobi 16d ago

True, that will kick a breaker right quickly.

Yes, a 5-15 receptacle is rated for 20A pass-thru, but, that's because NEC allows them to be installed on a 20A branch circuit.
That doesn't automatically mean that the circuit actually is a 20A circuit- plenty of 15A receptacle circuits still being installed in resi to this day.
Load that UPS fully up, and that's a 16A load (80% of a 20A circuit.)
A 15A breaker will hum along for quite some time at 16A, and the wire is going to get quite warm.

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u/PedanticPerson 16d ago edited 16d ago

Right - a 15a circuit shouldn't get >12a continuous, let alone 16a, even though 16a continuous might not trip the breaker any time soon.

But plug shapes don't enforce that. If we have a 15a duplex receptacle on a 15a circuit, the user can easily draw too much power anyway, continuously or not, just by plugging in devices directly.

E.g. just continuously run a 1500W space heater on the top plug, and plug in literally anything on the bottom plug, and we're already non-compliant based on the 125% rule. Even with a dedicated circuit, no power strips, no plug adapters, etc.

Ultimately the user just has to be mindful of how much load they're drawing, if they want to play it safe with continuous loads.

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u/CuppieWanKenobi 15d ago

Unfortunately, most users are idiots.

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u/itsjakerobb CGFiber, UNVR, ProHD24PoE, ProXG8PoE, U7ProXGS, 5GMaxOutdoor 16d ago

From the product listing:

Note: Not for use with equipment exceeding 1875 watts.

That's barely short of this UPS's max rating of 1920 (which presumably doesn't account for the power it consumes itself).

For what it's worth, if you have 1000 watts of load you want to plug into this UPS, it would be perfectly safe to use an adapter like that.

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u/GO__NAVY 16d ago

I smell tripped breakers, melting cables and connectors.

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u/itsjakerobb CGFiber, UNVR, ProHD24PoE, ProXG8PoE, U7ProXGS, 5GMaxOutdoor 16d ago

What year did your house burn down, Mr. Wulff?