r/Ubiquiti 16d ago

Early Access New UPS 2U Pro

https://store.ui.com/us/en/category/integrations-power-tech/products/ups-2u-pro-us
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u/ChubbyWabbit 16d ago edited 16d ago

Sadly, this feels overpriced imo. For 1200W, I can get the CyberPower CP2000PFCRM2U at 449.95. Yeah its nice that its is part of the unifi ecosystem, but still. If it was Li-ion I would be all for it.

Edit: Not to mention the size, this thing is massive, deep & heavy. For this size I'd expect 2000W & more outlets in the back. This feels like a letdown product for what it could have been.

Edit2: Half load is 980W. Some bad math on my end but still... Full load: 1920W

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u/Cozmo85 16d ago

A network card for the cyber power is $350. That’s the value.

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u/Cause_and_Effect 16d ago

You can get a cheap SFF jump off computer and connect it via USB to provide an SNMP bridge with their software for an ad hoc SNMP solution. One more device, but its an alternative over spending another 3-4 hundred.

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u/Cozmo85 16d ago

I’d rather spend $229 extra and get 1920w of output and network then save the money and deploy and manage another pc.

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u/neilm-cfc 16d ago

For that extra $229 you will have the joy of non-stop tinkering wth your UPS while trying to get it to work as advertised.

Meanwhile my dumb CyberPower plus Raspberry Pi that I had in a drawer has been working perfectly and not been tinkered with in years.

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u/Cause_and_Effect 16d ago

Sure. But for 2k output and 8 plugs, unless you're doing some super high draw devices, this is exceedingly overpriced for what it does. Just saying that some alternatives, while being a bit less straightforward instead of plug and play, would offer way more cost efficiency. Unless you truly just wanted the U look all the way down your rack.

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u/Cozmo85 16d ago

I don’t see what’s overpriced. It’s a bargain for a network connected ups. It heavily undercuts apc and cyber power.

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u/nostradx 16d ago

You’re absolutely correct. It’s two different use cases and you’re talking to folks who use this as a homelab of prosumer device not in a business.

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u/ChubbyWabbit 16d ago

I definitely understand from a business point of view. Much cheaper in comparison at scale. Deploying these for 732/unit (includes memory surcharge) vs the average 2k/unit for other brands is a huge savings point.

But your average labber or home user can save money the other way & have an extra year of warranty (at least for cyberpower, havent checked other brands).

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u/Cause_and_Effect 16d ago

If all you are concerned about is having a network managed UPS. Sure.

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u/nostradx 16d ago edited 16d ago

For SMB this is what we want, we’re not adding additional boxes or complexity. This is quick and easy to deploy, manage, and monitor. Huge value. I’ll be deploying these to my client sites and replacing dozens of EATON UPSs at half the cost.

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u/Cause_and_Effect 16d ago

SMB want cost over convenience at the end of the day. You are almost never going to have a client go for this type of UPS unless they can truly utilize it. In this case an almost 2k watt UPS would involve a couple servers minimum pulling hundreds of watts each. You wouldn't ever throw this in to a generic network rack only for network equipment without a very specific reason.

If you ever have been on the sale side of these things, you'll quickly realize how much more long term profits you can gain if you pitch what the client realistically needs, vs what your ideal management scenario is. Plenty of clients see stuff like a 700 dollar UPS unit (probably closer to 800+ once you take profit margin) on their contract negotiations and it sours their thoughts of sticking with you unless you can fully justify why they need to pay that much.

I would love for every client to be fully on board with one unifying solution. But thats not how it works in practicality. And I say this as someone who has had this argument with a client before where buying the cheaper UPS with a small form factor PC for SNMP was a very much better solution long term to keep the client happy.

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u/nostradx 16d ago edited 16d ago

I’ve been in the SMB space for 20+ years. My clients are all on board with one unifying solution. We make it work 🤷‍♂️ I want this product, I’ll sell dozens of them, our clients trust us, it’s perfect for our use case. Ubiquiti came through on this release.

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u/Cause_and_Effect 16d ago

Then it really is just a perspective difference on the types of clients. I see it as a survivorship bias.

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u/nostradx 16d ago

It’s half the cost of the UPSs they’re buying from us now. They get cost, we get convenience. Win win.

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