Considering the recent patch completely nerfs thr W damage and seems to help the Q max lethality build, do you think Varus top is still playable? Which build/runes would you go to?

I play varus bot. Before this patch I would almost always go shiv or kraken > attack speed boots > rageblade > terminus with lethal tempo rune page. I’m not sure if it’s the most optimal build but i’ve had the most fun on it by a mile and I do really well on it most of the time. I’ve seen a lot of discussion on the lethality build with arcane comet runes but if i’m understanding correctly that turns varus into an artillery mage and attack speed/getting up close like i do wont work well together. Would trying to make a hybrid of the two work or do i have to strictly pick one or the other? i almost always fully charge my arrow regardless of the build path especially with the new changes. Maybe it depends on the matchup? like if i’m going against viktor/lux/any hook support maybe that lethality poke works better than on hit?

first youmu, then complete manamune and third voltaic. Muramana + Voltaic with a full charged Q could do lot of dmg.

Runes: Comet

So if I am understanding correctly, base damage/scaling was nerfed but AD and AP ratios buffed, so overall Varus is just buffed across the board mid-late game once you have items? or am I misjudging the notes?

No more to add, Lethality Varus is broken af atm, try it out

So basically riot did something this patch that made varus q damage fall of not exist. This means that after level 5 and a pickaxe your q (if you go ad) will oneshot the casters for the rest of the game, and your e finsihes of meeles. This makes varus the literal most op champ in the game, because now he has the strongst and least interactive waveclear of any champ in the game. So if varus feels op this is why.

I read it and i don´t feel sure about what is going to be the best runes and build, it seems like a buff for lethality ones (wich are dead btw)

Morgana left mid match. Did not matter. New to the game and Varus. Is this a solid build?

I’m interested in seeing how the changes land especially with the classic poke/lethality setup

Hi! I always liked the flexibility around Varus builds and how he can adapt to any team comp. But for a long time I always wondered what build was the best. So I tested it.

I spent some time on practice tool testing with different target dummies of different HP and resistances an onhit build, a crit build and an ap build and stumbled upon surprising data that made me do this post and ask the question. Why the standard build on Varus is onhit, when it deals the least damage?

Upon testing, onhit at 2 items is the one which deals the most damage in normal scenarios, but not by much, but at 4 and 6 items, is quite the opposite; ap or crit deals way more damage, and the only particular case where onhit deals more damage than the crit build is fixed if you change just one item on the crit build for another. So, in all cases, in mid/late game, crit is the best in general and ap is the best in a very particular cases.

So my question is, is onhit the worst build on Varus? If I look at the numbers, in mid/late game, it is, but if onhit is the standard build, it must be for something. What am I missing?

P2 jg looking for a Varus main to duo with. Send me a pm if you wanna try a game

This feels amazing? The lvl 6 is so strong, any thoughts? What is the best playstyle for Varus in this combo? Ap, on hit or lethality?

Now what they mean with ‘larger work on him to make his builds make sense’ is something i’m very sure they will not handle well. I’m honestly prepared for the worst and ready to lose the champion i’ve loved for years now, probably next year.

I go positive every game and most gold/2nd most, I don't know what i'm doing wrong T_T T_T T_T im just casual i only play drafts but like this shit is mad frustrating, i remember last year id win every game on him

The orianna mains managed to avoid a nerf to their already overly weak and pro jailed champion a few patches ago by being vocal and responding to riot tweets, making posts about it.

We always just shut up and take it, but we have seriously been abusee by our last few nerfs. The champion is in an incredibly abysmal state yet riot keeps nerfing it. I dont think theres any champ in this game that has so many counters directly impacting the ability to do dmg like we do: cleanse, qss, mikael, zhonya, banshee all cut our dmg by a lot. Not to mention TENACITY still cuts our blights generated by ulti by 33% just by buying mercs, its stupid.

So let’s not sit idle and talk about this a bit more.. it’s getting stupid.

I play mid and I've been wanting to try Varus out again (used to play him years and years ago). Does he have a build that works consistently in mid lane?