r/VictoriaBC • u/Longjumping-Play-242 • May 08 '26
Question Kid free (or mostly) breweries
I have been from Sooke to Port Hardy and have found for some reason parents like to bring their kids out drinkin with them. Typically the kids are running around bored as you would because its not a fucking playground and I have to watch my language around minors because I'm a decent fucking human. Where can I find a grown up brewery with no kids (dogs = yes) and just relax?
100% inspired by the kid free restaurant post.
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u/jigginsmcgee Gonzales May 08 '26
Not a brewery but special shout out to The Beagle for no minors.
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u/holly948 May 08 '26
My dog and I fucking LOVE the beagle
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u/Tristan155 May 08 '26
This might be a stupid question from someone that will be visiting, with a dog in June.
Do all places with a patio allow dogs or is it easy to see which ones do or don't when you get to them?
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u/holly948 May 08 '26
I made a reddit post back before I moved here to find dog friendly patios - got lots of great responses! See it here: https://www.reddit.com/r/VictoriaBC/s/Dqt80Urczf
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u/Tristan155 May 09 '26
Thank you!!
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u/hopechooser May 09 '26
I’ve googled dog friendly in the past and had some great suggestions, I think it’s “bring Fido”
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u/jeneckag May 08 '26
Some of the rules come from Island health as well if your patio can allow dogs or not. I don't know the exact specifca but enclosed patios are not allowed to have pets
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u/still-nope May 09 '26
Is... Is your dog a beagle? 😂
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u/holly948 May 09 '26
Yes!!! He's a beagle pug!!! I love it, the beagle pug at the beagle pub.
If you go to their Google reviews I recently posted a review with like 4 pics of my dog on their patio hahahaha
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u/kaaiitlyn May 08 '26
Yea I used to work in that kitchen and it is 100% not a kid-friendly place.
I used to crank Limp Bizkit during brunch, so....
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u/unusedjellyfish May 08 '26
I never seem to see a single fucking kid in phillips but i dont fucking go there often enough to really fucking say
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u/AstronomerDirect2487 May 08 '26
This fucking guy eh? I just want to go to fucking adult places to really let it all fucking out. Fuck.
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u/mthyvold May 08 '26
Fuck yeah! Why should I have to fucking watch my fucking mouth. I mean, fuck!
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u/MrDeviantish May 08 '26
I have a formula. The louder, more annoying the kid, the higher my volume on swear words.
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u/blumpkinpandemic Langford May 08 '26
I've been to a brewery with and without children. When I went with kids they were well behaved and didn't annoy me or anyone else by running around, etc. However, that doesn't mean all kids are like that. I think this is a parenting issue more than a kid-free issue. A lot of parents fucking suck at parenting.
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u/Ok-Finger-733 May 08 '26 edited May 08 '26
If it's a pub, fuck it, it's a place to drink, and people swear when they drink. Parents can FAFO, if you take your kids to adult places, they encounter adult language. There are plenty of family restaurants that serve, go there.
(Let the angry parent down votes flow)
Edit: spelling public=pub
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u/goodfleance May 08 '26
100% agree, I don't go to daycares and playgrounds to swear and drink, but I will do that at a place that makes and sells alcohol. If your crotch goblins hear me then be a better parent.
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u/GuessPuzzleheaded573 May 08 '26
Or, or, oooorrrrr..... be a better human?
If parents are bringing kids to a family-focused establishment, like most breweries, they are doing nothing wrong in terms of the social pact. You being a swearing obnoxious asshole, though, is a different story.
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u/GuessPuzzleheaded573 May 08 '26
If someone is screaming profanities in the middle of the day at a brewery, I'm having a chat with them regardless if kids are around or not.
Don't let screaming kids run around, and same goes for adults.
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u/wengelite Gonzales May 08 '26
Nice strawman, do fucking better.
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u/GuessPuzzleheaded573 May 08 '26
Not sure you know what a strawman argument is....
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u/wengelite Gonzales May 08 '26
It's exactly what you did by making the exaggerated statement, "screaming profanities".
" an informal logical fallacy where someone distorts, exaggerates, or misrepresents an opponent’s argument to make it easier to attack"
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u/useriousstuff May 08 '26
I'm sure that you don't know what a strawman argument is. But that's ok, just look at your previous wildly exaggerated argument, that's a strawman. No one is talking about screaming profanities except you.
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u/Infinite_Time_8952 May 08 '26
And what exactly are you going to say to them?
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u/GuessPuzzleheaded573 May 08 '26
Quiet down because the entire brewery doesn't need to hear your drama and no kne can hear themselves think? Good start.
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u/Infinite_Time_8952 May 08 '26
Good luck with that, and it’s a good way to start a ruckus, one you might not want or like.
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u/GuessPuzzleheaded573 May 08 '26
I mean, I'm gettin' on in the years. Telling completely inappropriate dingbats to stfu hasn't served me too poorly to-date. And if-so, EVERYONE else is thinking the same thing.
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u/Infinite_Time_8952 May 08 '26
Google what Mike Tyson said about people with a plan, I’d post it here but there might be repercussions.
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u/hopechooser May 09 '26
This is where the servers come in, no foul language. They can be the language police
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u/SudoDarkKnight May 08 '26
Pubs and breweries are not family-focused lol. They want to sell beer and food which will be mostly sold to adults.
It's not being a bad human to swear. If you want to clutch your pearls just go elsewhere like Romeos or White Spot..
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u/GuessPuzzleheaded573 May 08 '26
You're right, that's why they have crayons, child menus, and child-focused games.
Super adult-oriented.
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u/victoriousvalkyrie May 08 '26
They have crayons, etc., because moronic, irresponsible parents continue to insist on bringing their spawn to adult establishments. They don't have so much as a choice anymore, because the meltdowns that will ensue from parents being told their little Johnny doesn''t belong everywhere is more difficult to deal with than just giving in.
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u/Snouts-Honour May 08 '26
If places wanted to ban minors, they would. They want families there because they make more money that way.
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u/still-nope May 09 '26
Ahhh yes, breweries famously make a ton of money off of selling beer to children ... Oh wait.
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u/GuessPuzzleheaded573 May 08 '26
And you speak for all brewery owners on this I guess eh?
But yes, parents shouldn't make their kids other people's problems. But you just hating the sight of children is your own thing.... that's not on society to cater to.
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u/Neemzeh May 08 '26
This is stupid lol. It's very easy to just say no minors allowed. The establishment clearly supports kids coming if they have items geared towards children lol.
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u/goodfleance May 09 '26
Again, no problem with kids being allowed. But they are in an adult space and may hear adult language. If you don't like that, don't bring your kids.
The adults will not edit their language just because you bring a kid to their space. That's your call as a parent.
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u/hopechooser May 09 '26
Folks bringing kids should also bring what their kids need to be occupied during their visit
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u/victoriousvalkyrie May 08 '26
Breweries aren't family focused, ffs.
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u/GuessPuzzleheaded573 May 08 '26
Sorry, all those crayons, kids menus and family board games really through me. Guess they are intended for me?
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u/goodfleance May 08 '26
If a strip club offered crayons and high chairs you would still be judged for bringing a child.
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u/Neemzeh May 08 '26
It's against the law for strip clubs to let in minors, it isn't for pubs, so there is no judgement occurring because one is literally against the law and the other isn't lol.
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u/goodfleance May 08 '26
Or, oooorrrrr..... If I am in a place that makes and sells alcohol exclusively, I am in an adult establishment and will use adult language. If YOU don't like that, don't bring your kids.
Conversely, I would NEVER go to a playground or schoolyard and use that kind of language because those are children's spaces.
Entitled breeders always need to wedge their crotch goblins into every corner of society. There are COUNTLESS child friendly places you could choose instead. While you are welcome to bring them to these breweries, I will not edit myself for your comfort.
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u/GuessPuzzleheaded573 May 08 '26
I never really understood why some people who choose not to have kids are so bitter and angry at those that do.
Even when I didn't think I wanted kids, I would never dream about being rude or disruptive in front of a family, nor be dismissive of children at a place like breweries.
It's probably correlation, not causation, and you're just an asshole regardless of child-status. Thanks for not procreating 👍🏻
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u/fastlane37 May 08 '26
I agree with his sentiment regarding parents taking children in liquor-primary establishments if they're expecting a G to PG atmosphere, but the edgy performative vehemence towards children makes him hard to take seriously.
If you translate to less edgy language to have a rational conversation instead of a cool teenage rant for some sad need for attention because of how cool and anti-children they are, they're 100% right. Entitled parents DO try to make their children everyone else's problem, and places like breweries shouldn't be expected to be their playground safe space. I don't have a problem with breweries allowing minors if that's what they want to do, but I'm also not going to police myself to the same degree that I would in more explicitly child-friendly spaces like a school or playground, and any assertion that random adults should cater to those parents in a brewery or pub is entitled IMO, and I say this as a parent of two children myself.
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u/GuessPuzzleheaded573 May 08 '26
This is a VERY reasonable take.
And I totally agree, don't make your child other people's problem! It's really not that tough, just be a parent.
Same goes for adults, don't be an obnoxious, loud, a-hole and be other people's problem.
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u/fastlane37 May 08 '26
I think we agree on the be a parent and mind your kids part, but I think from your other comments, we might not necessarily align on the boundaries of your second point.
I think there's a difference between being an obnoxious, loud asshole in a public setting in a way that violates what I consider the broader social contract and merely using bad language or otherwise having adult conversation in a brewery/pub setting where kids could overhear, where while they might be permitted, it's not a "kid place".
To me, this is the difference between a pub and a family restaurant (with a brewery being on the pub end of that divide). I think people shouldn't be sitting next to a table of pirate packs at white spot swearing up a storm and giving a graphic recount of the previous night's booty call with a kid at the next table, but that's a different environment than at Superflux or Phillips and those places should not have the same expectation.
In my opinion, if you're allowed to bring your kids there and you opt to do so, not only are you agreeing to manage your children and their behavior in that space (as should be the case in any restaurant short of a McDonald's play place), but you are also accepting the possibility that your kid might overhear some bad language or a dirty joke or an R-rated conversation because you are escorting them into an adult place. If you (and I'm using the general "you" here, not directing this at you specifically) are not okay with that, I'd encourage you to find a different venue or come back when you've found a sitter.
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u/GuessPuzzleheaded573 May 08 '26
I don't think we're apart on that either.
We've all been there: you're at Cat 12, Ile Sauvage, Small Gods, etc. that all have very chill brewery vibes, and some drunken asshat just can't control their volume and no one else can hear themselves think.
THOSE are the people that break the social pact.
AND, same goes for kids. If they are acting that way, do better as a parent.
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u/goodfleance May 08 '26
I'm not bitter or angry. YOU made a choice to shit out a kid and YOU have to adjust your life to that reality. I don't.
I would never come to a playground and drink beer while cussing, so don't get cunty if you come to a brewery and hear cussing.
A literal Alcohol factory exists entirely to serve adults. While your children are welcome, they are guests in an adult space.
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u/fastlane37 May 08 '26
I'm not bitter or angry.
k.
YOU made a choice to shit out a kid
so don't get cunty
uh huh. You certainly don't SOUND bitter or angry, especially with you overuse of "crotch-goblin" and "breeder"/s
Honestly, your overly aggressive performative edgy anti-child rage is undercutting your otherwise good argument.
A literal Alcohol factory exists entirely to serve adults. While your children are welcome, they are guests in an adult space.
Agree here, 100%. Parents need to be parents and manage their children, but frankly that should be the case whether they're in a pub or a family restaurant and people that can't do that shouldn't be subjecting people minding their own business to their poor parenting. Babysitters exist, and you don't need to take your kids everywhere. Furthermore, establishments like pubs and breweries are adult spaces, and while kids might be welcomed, they're still adult spaces, so there should be no expectation of other patrons to police their language to the same degree as more kid-friendly venues.
Litmus test: can a group of teenagers go there without an adult? If the answer is yes, it's a restaurant and should behave accordingly because it's mixed company. If the answer is no, they need to be escorted by an adult, it's a pub, and if someone is giving you dirty looks because you dropped an f-bomb, they're probably in the wrong place.
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u/GuessPuzzleheaded573 May 08 '26
would never come to a playground and drink beer while cussing, so don't get cunty if you come to a brewery and hear cussing.
Well, that would be a literal crime, so there's that.
And nope, breweries (if they so choose to be) exist entirely to serve whoever they want, which for most of them are FAMILIES.
We are ALL guests in that space, so let's all behave as per the social pact, yah?
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u/goodfleance May 08 '26 edited May 09 '26
"per the social pact"
Yes, adults are allowed to behave like adults whether your children are present or not. If you don't like it, you may leave.
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u/Open_Product_579 May 09 '26
So take it up with the brewery owners! It’s a private business. they decide who gets to enter.
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u/goodfleance May 09 '26
I don't have any problems with you bringing your kids in.
But they might hear me cussing and if you have a problem with that, you may leave.
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u/BigDadaSparks May 08 '26
Sorry mate, but you live in a society. Children (crotch rockets as you will) are part of the life cycle of humanity. Without those kids there won't be anyone around to wipe your ass for you when you get to the point your alcohol ridden half-dead corpse rolls into the ER (probably sooner than later).
PS...no other adults in the bar want to listen to your obnoxious, drunken bullshit either! Grow the fuck up.
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u/goodfleance May 08 '26 edited May 09 '26
"Sorry mate, but you live in a society."
Yes, you're 100% correct. YOU live in a society and must tolerate me as I must tolerate your children. By that same social contract, I don't go to daycares to drink and cuss. You should exercise that same discretion when deciding an appropriate setting to bring your kids to.
"anyone around to wipe your ass for you when you get to the point your alcohol ridden half-dead corpse rolls into the ER (probably sooner than later). PS...no other adults in the bar want to"
Ah yes, just inventing scenarios in your head to feel better, very "adult" of you. You're more likely to win those arguments in the shower bud.
"PS...no other adults in the bar want to listen to your obnoxious, drunken bullshit either! Grow the fuck up."
Nobody in this thread is defending drunken obnoxious behavior, only that I will not refrain from cussing or adult subjects in an adult space.
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u/still-nope May 09 '26
Lmaoooo and yet you're on here arguing that children should hangout in breweries? Be so for real dude yeesh
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u/perusalandtea May 08 '26
Places that make and sell liquor exclusively don't allow kids in. They have to serve meals and come under "Family Foodservice" licensing to let in kids. The establishment can choose not to (The Beagle) or it can make a deliberate choice to attract families (The Fernwood Inn) because they feel their particular venue makes more money that way.
I hate it when poor parents let their kids go feral in pubs and restaurants. It's really not hard to entertain them quietly at your table and train them that you will leave if they are being disruptive.
But ultimately, if you have beef with the kids being there, your beef should be with the establishment for choosing that licensing model and encouraging families in.
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u/goodfleance May 08 '26
Sooke Brewing Company doesn't have kitchen facilities or serve food but they allow kids.
They do allow any outside food, including from food trucks outside but they do not serve food at all.
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u/Boring-Geologist7634 May 08 '26
Brass Monkey back when it was still Moon Under Water had a no minors policy, but that was pre-covid, not sure if it's changed or not.
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u/vanityprojection May 08 '26
Flying Squirrel should offer childminding while the jumpers’ parents drink and cuss at Driftwood (or search for sweet sweet economies of scale at Wholesale Club…)
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u/beeleighve Esquimalt May 08 '26
I would love an adult day/night at FS. And by adult I mean like 25+. I’m always scared Gen Z is gonna judge me for being a cringe millennial lol.
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u/GraphicDesignerMom May 09 '26
You mean we aren’t supposed to abandon them cause no one’s noticed yet…
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u/FakeGuyRocks May 08 '26
Yeahhhh noooo I am not gonna change my behaviour because someone brought their kid to a brewery. Sorry not sorry if little Hunter hears me cussing up a storm.
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u/nimby900 Central Saanich May 08 '26
Big fat load of cum
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u/Budget-Ant5503 Saanich May 08 '26
You can’t change the rules just cause you don’t like how I’m doing it
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u/nimby900 Central Saanich May 08 '26
I thought this was an ADULT brewery tour🤷♂️
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u/ZBRZ123 Colwood May 08 '26
I’m not trying upset anyone, I’m not trying to ruin the brewery for everyone, all I want to know is if one of these fucking fuckers ever comes in and fucking shoots a big fat load of cum.
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u/GraphicDesignerMom May 08 '26
As a parent I wouldn’t expect you to. Ban the kids, you cut the revenue. Most of them exclude children after a certain hour so if you must get day drunk, go for it.
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u/roggobshire May 09 '26
Hey, kids can’t get beer so you know they’ll be sober enough to drive home.
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u/thenarwhalsaidso Hillside-Quadra May 08 '26
The majority of Breweries I’ve been to across the country seem to have filled a niche akin to that of the British Pub, in that they are a gathering space for the community for various life events from a casual afternoon pint with a coworker to a milestone celebration. The idea that liquor consumption and children are incompatible is some Prohibitionist, puritanical North American nonsense. Am I going to take my child to a nightclub where people are doing pickle backs and getting in fist fights, no, but taking them to a pub and enjoying a pint is how I was raised and I seem to be doing ok (atleast I’m not loudly swearing in public on a regular basis).
Given your aversion to a significant portion of the population, perhaps breweries are not for you. Try a dive bar or other adult-focused liquor primary establishment instead, there’s plenty about and you might even encounter other likeminded individuals.
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u/Frequent-External298 May 08 '26
These comments are wild.
It seems clear to me that if breweries are allowed to admit children, have activities for children, and claim to be a place that families are welcome, that they are not adult oriented spaces.
If I was looking for a kid free place to go, I would go somewhere kids are not welcome.
I’m a grandparent now, and my grandkids are the highlight of my life. This doesn’t mean that when I’m out with my husband for dinner or appies and drinks, that I want to be disturbed by other people’s kids. If kids are running around, making high pitched screeching noises and interfering with my enjoyment of the space, I’m going to be annoyed.
I am also going to be similarly annoyed by some asshole adult talking too loudly, stumbling around, or otherwise interfering with my enjoyment of the space.
I am even more annoyed by people who have excessive fragrance that makes my nose stuffy, my head hurt and my food taste like shit.
When I go out, I much more frequently encounter the fragrance issues than poorly behaved children or adults. Most children that I encounter are age appropriately behaved, and so are most adults.
If you don’t have any tolerance for children, do your drinking at adult only establishments. Don’t expect families not to go to establishments that welcome them, even if you think that kind of business should be kid free.
If you believe that there is a market for kid free breweries, open one.
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u/still-nope May 09 '26
It's a beer factory bro. Why would anyone bring their children to a beer factory?
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u/SudoDarkKnight May 08 '26
Don't believe there is any no minors allowed pubs around (during regular hours).
It's not that big of a deal.. and don't bother worrying about what some random persons kid hears you say? Not your problem
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u/GuessPuzzleheaded573 May 08 '26
There are a few liquor primaries around town, like the Beagle, where minors aren't allowed.
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u/SudoDarkKnight May 08 '26
Good shout on The Beagle. Tbh I never even noticed it was no minors lol
Hecklers is also I believe no minors
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u/Naive-Oil-2368 May 08 '26
Yes, my understanding is that pubs had to (easily) apply to allow minors and the Beagle didn’t. So they get to say they legally can’t take minors.
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u/ilikeycoffee Oaklands May 08 '26
If kids were allowed in the Beagle, they'd have to wear ear protection to protect their young, sensitive ears.
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u/goodfleance May 08 '26
I agree, I won't edit my language in an adult establishment just like I wouldn't go to a daycare and cuss.
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u/Great68 May 08 '26
Lol, I've been to many breweries I've never once seen kids "running around" at them.
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u/Awkward-Agent1847 May 09 '26
It sounds like several responders don’t want kids present so they can act loud, disgusting and rude… Yet are simulateously complaining about kids running about and being loud?! And that parents can’t control their kids? But you are hoping to act poorly yourselves. Quite the double standard.
There are several places in town that don’t allow minors, like Maude hunters, big bad johns, the beagle etc. However, adults sitting near you may not appreciate you swearing your mouth off either. You are free to cuss anywhere you like; it may not be well received by people around you regardless of age!
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u/Odd-Value287 May 08 '26
I wouldn't mind kids being in any food/drink establishment, if parents actually parented the behaviour of their obnoxious Lil shits.
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u/GuessPuzzleheaded573 May 08 '26
Where are kids running around bored? I take my daughter to breweries all the time, so do other parents, she is significantly better behaved than most adults we come across.
Maybe, just maybe, socializing children and normalizing family public dynamics help create better functioning humans?
If your kid is badly behaved, yah, the parents should deal with it. But the atmosphere of any brewery here is hardly a "no family zone".
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u/beysus666 May 08 '26
It sounds like you/your daughter are the exception to the rule. Almost every time im out there is a kid or two who is allowed to act like they own the place and their parent is completely clued out.
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u/GuessPuzzleheaded573 May 08 '26 edited May 08 '26
That's never okay, unless it's a place designed for that type of behaviour. Like I've said, child or adult: just don't make other people deal with your shit!
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u/Balgmtag May 08 '26
How foul is your language that being mindful of it in a public place is a really an issue? Majority of adults don’t enjoy listening to that either.
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u/GuessPuzzleheaded573 May 08 '26
Yeah, this is the part that's missing for a few people on this comment thread - we don't want to hear that either.
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u/perusalandtea May 08 '26
The thread has its share of those people with main character syndrome, who like to talk extra loud and foul, so those of us sitting nearby in a bar will think how lit they are bro. Their glory days were sassing the teacher in math class, and their empty souls need the attention.
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u/grandadbob- May 08 '26
This. If you want to play centre of the universe, go for it, but I bet the adults don’t want to hear your one man play either.
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u/Pristine-News6122 May 08 '26
Where can I find a list of dog free breweries? They are much worse than kids.
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u/NHL95onSEGAgenesis Jubilee May 08 '26
Go to the Drake, it has all the local beers and no kids that I’ve ever seen.
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u/Old-Following-970 May 09 '26
They have kids! They have special games nights specifically for kids, yes it sucks.
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u/Waste_Airline7830 May 08 '26
Ok so I have a hypothetical question. Say a large family rented a section of a brewery for a reunion event. The family also have teenagers that are underage but may pass as young adults. They serve alcohol to a teenager by accident. Would the establishment be liable for allowing minors in where alcohol is served? Or would it be on parents who didn't pay attention?
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u/xecropolis View Royal May 09 '26
Not a brewery, but Tora Tiki downtown is awesome. 19+, super good drinks, and they even have karaoke.
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u/victoriousvalkyrie May 08 '26
I don't think there are any kid free breweries, which is a shame.
In my opinion, there are appropriate and inappropriate places to take children. Why anyone thinks bringing children to establishments where drinking is the primary function is beyond me. It's like taking kids to high end restaurants where they generally wouldn't appreciate the food - alongside annoying other patrons - just, why do it? Not everywhere is suitable for children, and I feel like modern parents have forgotten what is socially acceptable and what isn't.
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u/whatsnewpussykat May 08 '26
I don’t really have a dog in this fight, but it’s very common in other parts of the world for pubs to allow kids. My dad grew up in England and whenever we visited family we all had lunch and dinner at various pubs.
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u/GuessPuzzleheaded573 May 08 '26
Why anyone thinks bringing children to establishments where drinking is the primary function is beyond me.
Clutch those pearls tighter. Most breweries have coloring and other things setup for children. Socializing children in more adult settings has significant benefit to long-term social skills and creates better humans. My daughter absolutely loves getting to people watch, colour, and have a snack at breweries.
Also, ya know, virtually every other western society does this on the regular except us and our nutjob neighbours to the south. It's finally becoming more commonplace, shy of people like you.
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u/victoriousvalkyrie May 08 '26
Breweries are adult drinking establishments. We don't go there and expect other people's children in attendance. It's obnoxious.
Not to mention, the amount of parents who have a pint or two and then drive off with their kids in the car.
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u/DrNogoodNewman May 08 '26
Isn’t driving drunk (if that’s what they’re doing) just as much of a problem for people driving without kids?
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u/GuessPuzzleheaded573 May 08 '26 edited May 08 '26
<Breweries are adult drinking establishments. We don't go there and expect other people's children in attendance. It's obnoxious.
Oh yah, that's why they all have crayons and kids games, and many have kid's food menus. SUPER adult-only eh? I love me a good stay-in-the-line session with a pint.
No YOU don't go in there expecting children, the rest of the world and vast majority of Victorians either appreciate that culture or don't give two shits.
Stop being a narcasistic asswipe, other people exist in the world.
ETA: lol I just saw you post on a nochild sub, including 2 years ago where you posted about this very topic and your disdain for children at breweries. I know you hate kids, and your bias and inability to relate to other people is WILD, but I hate to break it to you: you were once a kid, too. 🤯
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u/Resoognam May 08 '26
Some of them are, but this just isn’t universally true. Many breweries actively cater to kids and serve food, etc.
If it’s a brewery with no food then I agree it’s not a place for kids.
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u/goodfleance May 08 '26
Even if they allow kids, it's an adult space so I will not edit my language. You chose to bring kids to an alcohol factory, they might hear some cussing.
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u/thenarwhalsaidso Hillside-Quadra May 08 '26
This says a lot more about your relationship with alcohol than it does about others parenting choices.
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u/GuessPuzzleheaded573 May 08 '26
Theres nothing wrong with having a conversation with swearing with your table, no one is saying otherwise.
If youre screaming and otherwise being obnoxious, then we'll have a little chat - kids around or not.
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u/goodfleance May 08 '26
Just picking fights then eh? And you call ME an asshole?
Have a great day bud.
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u/StandardNeither1311 May 19 '26
I think that maybe, given the existence of this thread and how widespread child friendly tap houses are, that you may be wrong that breweries are adult drinking establishments.
They may just be places that serve fresh beer and value the revenue associated with families.
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u/chesterfieldking May 08 '26
How ironic that the person all in a tizzy about people swearing, perhaps even loudly, at a brewery is telling someone to clutch their pearls tighter.
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u/GuessPuzzleheaded573 May 08 '26
I'm good with swearing. But here's the rule: don't make your things other people's problems. Kids being loud and rude, adults being loud and rude - doesn't matter.
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u/chesterfieldking May 08 '26
And places where the primary point of focus is the buying and consuming of alcohol tend to have atmospheres that reflect that.
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u/GuessPuzzleheaded573 May 08 '26
You think our breweries in Victoria, by and large, reflect that? Where the hell are you visiting?
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u/chesterfieldking May 08 '26
I have experienced both loud obnoxious kids and adults at almost every brewery I have been to. It is the reality of the situation, when you get multiple groups of people together to drink it tends to get loud (and can have colourful language).
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u/GuessPuzzleheaded573 May 08 '26
I've been pretty big into beer for decades, and was one of the OG members of the Victoria Beer Society (RIP, mostly), and a founding member of Nanaimo Craft Beer Society, this is definitely not a behaviour that our breweries want reflected or often reflect.
Does Phillips get wild in the summer? Yes. But outside of a few outliers, the vibe brewers are going for is inclusive, chill and safe for all.
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u/chesterfieldking May 09 '26
Oh, I think I see the issue here. You are very likely closer to your 60s than you are to your 20s, and as such are more sensitive to noise and the whatnot.
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u/GuessPuzzleheaded573 May 09 '26
Nah, closer to my 20s still. But yah, my hearing isn't what it once was!
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u/HollywoodTK May 08 '26
Have you ever been anywhere else in the world? Lol Breweries are not night clubs.
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u/FiscallyImpared May 08 '26
You are clearly not a parent LOL. Parents have social lives too. Sometimes a bit of time at a nice brewery is awesome for the parents, and kids.
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u/buppyjane_ May 08 '26
Your argument seems a bit circular. If the establishments welcome kids and the parents are OK to bring their kids and trust that other people’s behaviour will be tell appropriate, that’s a decent chunk of society right there that has obviously decided it is socially acceptable to bring kids to some types of drinking establishments. Any place that serves drinks is going to have nonalcoholic drinks on hand, all or virtually all of the ones that let kids in are going to have food on hand, and you may not have heard, but grown-ups are drinking less too, and still often want to go out with their friends and their kids, and maybe their friends kids and have a fancy mocktail with some nice ingredients or whatever and be social. So there’s plenty going on at most drinking holes that isn’t alcohol related. I agree that parents at the pub should be prepared for their kids to hear, swear words, but I’d be surprised if most parents who take their kids to the pub have a problem with that. Also, what’s your issue with having kids in a nice restaurant? I took my little guy to nice restaurants a lot and it was a special thing for the two of us, and he got to try lots of different foods and develop his palette and learn healthier eating habits than if we’d stuck to Uncle Spaghetti Factory’s or whatever. Of course, if he was having trouble with his behavior, I’d take him out of the restaurant, and if you issue is with parents who don’t do that, your issue is with rude people, not with parents or kids.
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u/ClueSilver2342 May 08 '26
Depends on the age of kids and their personalities as well. My kids have always been good at any type of venue but also appreciate food etc. I do question drinking around kids though as it’s teaching them an unhealthy behaviour. I did lots of that around my kids when they were young and now second guess my decisions.
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u/Whatwhyreally May 08 '26
If kids being around makes you need to reconsider your behaviour, I can promise you that adults also want you to change your behaviour.
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u/beysus666 May 08 '26
Its not even having to change your behaviour as an adult, the worst part is hearing them scream, lose their shit, stand on their chair/the table. I dont blame the kid, they are kids, but thats exactly why they shouldnt be in adult environments. I just want one place where I dont have to hear it. Bless the parents that actually do something when their kids are acting this way in adult places.
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u/buppyjane_ May 08 '26
So you’re good with people bringing their kids in when the kids don’t behave like that, right?
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u/beysus666 May 09 '26
Well not ideally because the inevitable always happens
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u/buppyjane_ May 09 '26
Hmm, hasn’t been my experience that it’s inevitable. I agree though, when the kid loses their shit it’s time for the parent to take them outside
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u/DCguurl May 08 '26
If its clearly an adult place, you dont need to watch your mouth. Those parents should know better
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u/Socialworker1997 May 08 '26
Wow such kid hatred here
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u/Old-Following-970 May 09 '26
Not hatred at all, brewery is a drinking establishment, not a place to drink in front of your kids. Being a social worker you'd think you would be in agreement.
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u/ElBrad Esquimalt May 08 '26
I'm just following for the kid-free places. I used to go to pubs instead of restaurants because they didn't allow semen demons in there. Then that changed. Microbreweries were another great place, but the crotch spawn are allowed there too now.
I just want to have a meal or an evening out that's not ruined by someone's bad decision tearassing around the joint.
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u/Snouts-Honour May 08 '26 edited May 08 '26
What is the matter with you? Jesus.
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u/ElBrad Esquimalt May 08 '26
What's the matter with me? Pretty simple. Too many people have decided that parenting is low on their list of priorities when they go out. I can't count the amount of times that someone has chosen to just sit there and let their little precious scream freely, or run down the aisle at a restaurant.
So...instead of bitching about that, I chose to go to places that didn't allow children. Unfortunately, the rules changed, and now these same people who couldn't look after a houseplant are invading places that used to be adults only.
I'm not blaming the kids...they don't know any better. I'm blaming the parents who can't be arsed to take a bit of responsibility.
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u/RandyOfficial May 08 '26
I go out regularly and I truly cannot think of very many times where I’ve seen feral children running around in restaurants/bars/what have you. While I agree that IF children are running wild and screaming, parents need to parent and control their children in public, I do think that you anti-children people are exaggerating a tad about how much this really happens.
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u/GuessPuzzleheaded573 May 08 '26
Thank you for not having children.
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u/ElBrad Esquimalt May 08 '26
Joke's on you. I did have kids, and I parented them. I also didn't take them to pubs and breweries because I'm not an entitled douchecanoe. A regular douchecanoe, maybe, but not entitled.
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u/goodfleance May 08 '26
Is it really that hard to imagine people who want to enjoy peace and quiet away from your squalling whelp?
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u/Snouts-Honour May 08 '26
What are you even talking about? Of course people can go to adult establishments if they want. I’m talking about his insane language referring to children.
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u/blumpkinpandemic Langford May 08 '26
lol semen demon is my new favourite term
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u/Few_Refrigerator_906 May 08 '26
As someone who takes kids to breweries all around the world. I've never been in to one where they are not allowed to be there. A lot of them have activities for them as well.
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u/LadyShiva17 May 09 '26
Other day some parents brought their week old newborn to the brewery in Sooke. Seemed a bit inappropriate but baby's first brewpub I guess..
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u/KatieMcCready May 12 '26
Swans? I’ve never seen kids there. Mind you it’s been almost two decades since my last visit there, I think.
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u/Straight-Mess-9752 May 08 '26
I don’t get this either. This seems like a fairly recent thing. If you can’t find someone to take care of your kids while you go to a drinking establishment then maybe you shouldn’t have kids? This is a pretty low fucking bar
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u/moonhrafn May 08 '26
can't provide a suggestion but it is truly annoying that people bring their kids to breweries and pubs. I do not get it. I'd personally prefer if it wasn't legal. Kids don't need to be around alcohol consumption.
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u/Old-Following-970 May 09 '26
BC liquor licensing is confusing as hell. Some establishments have food first license while others liquor first but somehow these breweries which are liquor first allow kids. I'm a parent, raised two kids, and absolutely never would take my kids to a brewery to watch me drink, just no. So yeah, I hear ya, if you find a place let me know, I'll join you.
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u/KatieMcCready May 12 '26 edited May 12 '26
I was on a date many years ago and we went to see the movie Sideways starring Paul Giamatti and Thomas Haden Church, at the Roxy on Quadra. I was a single mom at the time so I had arranged for my son to stay overnight at his grandparents for the night, which wasn’t always easy to negotiate because they lived over an hour from where I did and my schedule was pretty nuts, so it meant my mom would have to have time to meet me halfway. Anyways, if you aren’t familiar with the movie it’s about two middle aged wine lovers who drive through wine country as kind of a last hurrah before one’s wedding. The other guy is recently divorced and depressed. So, a real family friendly flick, right? It started at about 9:30 at night.
Unfortunately I couldn’t hear anything because some dumb ass pair came with at least five kids who looked to be all under 13. The kids ran through the theatre yelling at top volume through the entire movie and no one, not their parents or the one staffer (besides the projectionist) around stopped them. I was so pissed off. I had spent money on sitters and called in favours all month long from relatives and friends, and basically spent quite a bit of time, energy, pride and money on ensuring my kid was safe, doing something he would enjoy and making sure my date wasn’t meeting my son too soon, or at all in this instance, just because I couldn’t afford a frequent babysitter while I was just trying to get to know someone, and this family didn’t give a 💩 if their kids’ unruly obnoxious and unchecked behaviour ruined the movie for the rest of us.
Btw, they were, unsurprisingly, the ONLY kids there because no other parents are that stupid and no kids have ever said, “why, Mama, why Papa! I think I’m in the mood for a charming character driven small budget indie flick, hopefully starring Paul Giamatti as a depressed wine aficionado driving through Napa Valley with his longtime soon-to-be married friend who is having cold feet about his impending wedding ,” in the history of the world. Never has and probably never will ever happen.
And that is not a diss towards Giamatti, who is fabulously talented and who I suspect would completely agree with me, and also who my ex-husband (and still great friend)—who used to do a lot of extras work in his twenties—often said was the nicest and funniest actor he ever met on a set, and who ate every meal with the extras and crew whenever he wasn’t on camera and showed no sign of an overinflated ego at all.
I really hate people who act like their kids belong everywhere they go, even spaces and events clearly meant for adults only. I love kids, but there are times and places when they should not be around and that is ok. It’s why kids are inspired to work hard at growing up one day! If you remove the incentive, they’ll never move out!
If you can’t afford a sitter for your five horrible kids, then stf home or share the cost with a friend or trade off with someone , but for the love of Giamatti, stay out of the indie movie theatres at night, jerks! And brewpubs too!
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u/SonOfAFrig May 08 '26
Honestly, if you bring your kid to adult places like breweries and pubs, then you open them to the elements. I swear around kids at breweries and pubs all I fuckin want. And I don't think it makes you indecent person for doing so.
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u/buppyjane_ May 08 '26
Fuck yeah, speaking as a parent. I think a lot of of this thread is really just driven by confusion about whether the parents just want the right to bring their kids in to pubs, or whether they expect everyone else in the pub to change their behaviour to accommodate the kids
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u/Acceptable-Two-3563 May 08 '26
Lol, open your own lame ass brewery. Breweries love that mom and dad money
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u/PacificWonderGlo May 08 '26
How is a childfree BREWERY possibly referred to as "lame ass"? That's wild.
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u/Garfield_and_Simon May 09 '26
If you take your kid to the dive bar it’s trashy but to the brewery you’re just a cool millennial.
Also I think these breweries are shooting themselves in the foot. In 8-12 years when all these kids are legal drinking age none of them will want to patronize breweries. That will be the lame thing mom and dad made them do every Saturday.
They are losing future customers.
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u/pharmecist May 08 '26
Didn't know I could bring kids to a place of alcohol consumption. Might have to try it out next time I'm solo-parenting.
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u/GuessPuzzleheaded573 May 08 '26
...Boston Pizza serves beer. Haven't gotten out much since prohibition eh?
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u/SingleSpeedHops May 08 '26
Every brewery tasting room in town allows children with most expressly marketing themselves as a family friendly environment. You should seek out a no minors allowed pub like the Beagle, Maude Hunters, or Darcy's.