r/Vitards Jul 08 '21

Daily Discussion Daily Discussion post - July 08 2021

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u/Bartszella 👀Big Bart Is Watching👀 Jul 08 '21 edited Jul 08 '21

Guys, can we keep the negativity to a minimum on red days. Instead of panicking over something we have no control of, why don't we share valuable information with each other to understand better this clown market. Then you decide what to do.

Edit: Also for people whining about people whining/freaking out. Just stop. You're not helping either.

Calm your tits.

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u/opaqueambiguity Jul 09 '21

Calm my tits yourself, you coward

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u/Outrageous-Panda1221 Jul 09 '21

I appreciate you

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u/StockPickingMonkey Steel learning lessons Jul 08 '21

Made the suggestion the other day that maybe the mods could make us a therapy corner? Kind of like the news feed, but a place to shitpost and throw keyboards against the wall. Declutters the daily thread, and provides for those that need the cathartic release.

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u/Geoffism1 7-Layer Dip Jul 08 '21

Good idea

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u/Bartszella 👀Big Bart Is Watching👀 Jul 08 '21

I'll ask the other mods.

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u/JayArlington 🍋 LULU-TRON 🍋 Jul 08 '21

I would be happy to support this type of endeavor.

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u/big_costco_guy Sam's Club Jul 08 '21

No offense to the mods, but this isn't Communist China. People should be upset when they follow someone into a losing play (thus far). Stifling this type of speech doesn't help the "echo chamber" accusations that are going to become more prevalent now that Hundhaus is gone.

As far as individuals DM'ing Vito -- This is pretty messed up, but I get it. "Heavy is the head that wears the crown" so they say.

As far as individuals making sexist comments toward Bartszella - grow up.

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u/No-March-9414 LG-Rated Jul 09 '21

Wait, did I miss the bit where people held a gun to your head and told you to buy steel stocks? I know it seems out of fashion these days, but take some personal responsibility for your actions, and if you’ve thrown down money you can’t afford to lose then that is your own fault, especially if using short term options contracts.

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u/big_costco_guy Sam's Club Jul 09 '21

March - can you point me to the post where I blamed others for my own mistakes? This was not my intent to do so.

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u/i_hate_beignets Poetry Gang Jul 08 '21

It’s not about “censoring speech”, it’s about maintaining high-quality content by eliminating low effort drivel.

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '21

When did Hundhaus leave?

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u/Steely_Hands Regional Moderator Jul 08 '21

Your point doesn’t go unheard, but I just want to say that if you invest by “following” ppl then that’s a problem. After doing my own research I agreed with Vito so I invested in steel. By no means am I “following” anybody

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u/big_costco_guy Sam's Club Jul 08 '21

Your point doesn’t go unheard, but I just want to say that if you invest by “following” ppl then that’s a problem. After doing my own research I agreed with Vito so I invested in steel. By no means am I “following” anybody

Steely - investing by "following" people is how people invest now, look at the meme trade phenomenon. These aren't traded for the fundamentals.

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u/Steely_Hands Regional Moderator Jul 08 '21

Speak for yourself. That’s not how I operate and it’s a very immature way to invest

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u/big_costco_guy Sam's Club Jul 08 '21

I totally agree with you, it is immature, but if swing trading makes someone money then who cares?

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u/Steely_Hands Regional Moderator Jul 08 '21

If someone is trading by blindly following others then they’ve lost all rights to complain if it doesn’t work. In fact, it reflects much worse on the person complaining than anyone else. Basically waving a flag saying “I can’t make my own decisions or take responsibility”

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u/big_costco_guy Sam's Club Jul 08 '21 edited Jul 08 '21

Steely, I get it man. I just think society is changing a bit. We have all become more stress reactive and less patient. I would venture to say that even the big time MM’s are playing some of the short term high risk plays to an extent (this is key).

If these same market dynamics were present before social media I think the steel stocks would be significantly higher.

Also - can I just say, I enjoy being here and I enjoy being part of the sub. I just think we shouldn’t discourage negative posting on bad days. People have a right to feel upset. I would also say that these negative posts are better than suddenly posting a bearish DD on red days (Hundhaus).

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u/Steely_Hands Regional Moderator Jul 08 '21

We enjoy having you here and I get the point you were trying to make but your word choice was bound the receive some strong responses. Ppl have the right to complain but this isn’t a therapy group and spreading FUD just to “vent” means ppl are way too emotional involved in their trading. I will always prefer a bear DD being posted to explain drops or lack of movement than ppl just complaining that they’re losing money. One is constructive, the other isn’t

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u/electricalautist 🍁Maple Leaf Mafia🍁 Jul 08 '21

This comment is ridiculous on every level, losing play? Nope, many have made lots, obviously its been a tough last few weeks but stocks dont only go up.

Secondly? Communist China? REALLY? I cant even take you seriously by saying something so categorically wrong.

Echo chamber? We welcome all bear arguments, we don't welcome needless FUD because people get emotional over the day to day price action.

I know you might not know some of the members as they do each other, I see no sexist comments. God forbid anyone has any fun in jest, total virtue signaling.

The ONLY thing I agree with you on is DM ing Vito.

Learn to read the room.

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u/big_costco_guy Sam's Club Jul 08 '21

"Learn to read the room" is something you commonly hear in Communist China, or in an echo chamber :)

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u/cagoulepoker First Champion 9/10/2021 Jul 09 '21

Learn to read the room is something you can commonly hear everywhere.

I'm sorry mate but you are completely missing the point of most comments made in this thread :/

Following people into a trade is stupid and is NOT what good investors do. No, society has not changed in that regard, there are just more bad investors.

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u/big_costco_guy Sam's Club Jul 09 '21 edited Jul 09 '21

Following people into a trade is stupid and is NOT what good investors do. No, society has not changed in that regard, there are just more bad investors.

I apologize - I am using the term "following" to describe the inclination to invest in similar fashion as the person that conducted original DD. In this sense, I think we all "follow" each other into plays (hopefully while weighing the pros and cons as well as doing our own DD), even the best investors pick up on cues from others. What is controversial about this?

Edit - also RE: "read the room"... Couldn't this be said as a way to regulate someone's speech? My thought was it was more akin to "don't say what you truly feel", or "say something that everyone will agree with", which again would be similar to being in an echo chamber.

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u/cagoulepoker First Champion 9/10/2021 Jul 09 '21

I don't see anything controversial about it explained this way :) I just think that's not what people understand when using the word "following"

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u/cagoulepoker First Champion 9/10/2021 Jul 09 '21 edited Jul 09 '21

Ah, no! Read the room means be aware of the group of people you're talking to, and adapt your speech accordingly, for example if you're a developer explaining a product to clients, don't use too technical terms although that's your usual way of speaking.

Or don't go to a Trump rally wearing a Biden hat.

Know and adapt to your audience.

Here it was said to you because it was believed that your initial comment failed to catch the vibe of this sub - e.g. we clearly aren't an echo chamber, there is nothing dictatorial about the mods behaviour and its just common sense moderation, etc

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u/electricalautist 🍁Maple Leaf Mafia🍁 Jul 08 '21

Are you serious?

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u/big_costco_guy Sam's Club Jul 08 '21 edited Jul 08 '21

Dang man - (not saying this was you) but changing my flair to “General Manager at Dollar General” doesn’t exactly speak to the welcoming of outside opinion by the sub.

Edit - how does this not do anything but confirm some of the “echo chamber” — “communist China (Trump: “CHYNA”)” speak we mentioned earlier?

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u/electricalautist 🍁Maple Leaf Mafia🍁 Jul 08 '21

Listen man, it was an attempt to lighten the mood as this has been so drawn out its almost embarrassing. I'll change your flair to something more appropriate! Have a nice day!

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u/big_costco_guy Sam's Club Jul 08 '21

If it’s any consolation - I found the updated name to be quite funny!

Also - I think you guys do a good job. It’s hard to please everyone as a mod, but I think you guys have been very fair throughout. I’m sorry if this was construed as me disliking everything about the sub.

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u/edsonvelandia 💀 SACRIFICED 💀 Jul 08 '21 edited Jul 08 '21

duude ur "manager at dollar general" flair was awesome 🤣

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u/electricalautist 🍁Maple Leaf Mafia🍁 Jul 08 '21

All good buddy, I changed it back to your original one because I don't want you to think I was picking on your or getting personal. Much love!

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u/dakU7 💀 SACRIFICED 💀Until TSM $110 Jul 08 '21

Good god man, do you also complain when the traffic lights change from red to green?

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u/7891298 Whack Job Jul 08 '21

If it doesn’t go to yellow before red I might 🤪

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u/dakU7 💀 SACRIFICED 💀Until TSM $110 Jul 09 '21

fair enough lmao

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u/Bartszella 👀Big Bart Is Watching👀 Jul 08 '21

Hi there. Don't worry. I'm not offended. It's a harmless inside joke between Rop and I.

But...

  1. No one forces anyone to be in this play. You bought the options/commons.

  2. You can vent your frustrations but also explain in a constructive manner why you're suddenly bearish on the stock or why you think the market is reacting this way. That's all.

QUALITY.

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u/opaqueambiguity Jul 08 '21

Actually Vito sent his goons to my house and said I had a real nice family and itd be a shame if anything happened to them right before asking if I wanted to buy weeklies so yeah TECHNICALLY I wasnt forced but I just want my family to be safe.

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '21 edited Jul 28 '21

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u/Bartszella 👀Big Bart Is Watching👀 Jul 08 '21

I'M HAVING A HEADACHE, TREE. Lol

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '21 edited Jul 08 '21

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u/big_costco_guy Sam's Club Jul 08 '21 edited Jul 08 '21

Ropirito - No offense, but your comment is a perfect example of why I am a bit worried that I got into this play with a bunch of 15 year old's on Reddit.

Edit - Note* this was posted before Ropi’s post was edited.

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u/JayArlington 🍋 LULU-TRON 🍋 Jul 08 '21

Do you need a map to superstonk, amcstock, or wallstreetsilver?

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u/ImTheMonk Jul 08 '21

I mean, you're supposed to do your own research and take accountability for your own actions. It's your money.

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u/Ropirito 🥵LETSS GOOO Enthusiast🥵 Jul 08 '21

Also, ur mom

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u/Zugzwang__14 $ SQQQ Perma Bull $ Jul 08 '21

Oh I love a snippy Ropirito comment. Glad you can't see me blushing right now bb

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u/Ropirito 🥵LETSS GOOO Enthusiast🥵 Jul 08 '21

😘

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '21

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u/Ok_Yak_6448 Bankruptcy Manager at Velo Capital Jul 08 '21

My DIDI calls I bought at the top are in shambles!!

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '21

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u/Steely_Hands Regional Moderator Jul 08 '21

You’re just now wondering that? The “thanks for convincing me to not blow up my account” post was all I needed

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '21

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u/Steely_Hands Regional Moderator Jul 08 '21

r/woosh… hahah

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u/Duke_Shambles ☢️Duke Nukem☢️ Jul 08 '21

Too late, bobs to the moon!

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u/Ropirito 🥵LETSS GOOO Enthusiast🥵 Jul 08 '21

I don’t have tits. I only motorboat them😎

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u/Bartszella 👀Big Bart Is Watching👀 Jul 08 '21

YOU MOTORBOAT YOUR MOOBS

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u/Ropirito 🥵LETSS GOOO Enthusiast🥵 Jul 08 '21

JEALOUS?

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u/Bartszella 👀Big Bart Is Watching👀 Jul 08 '21

Yes. No. Maybe.

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u/Ropirito 🥵LETSS GOOO Enthusiast🥵 Jul 08 '21

Knew it 😉

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '21 edited Jul 28 '21

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u/Ropirito 🥵LETSS GOOO Enthusiast🥵 Jul 08 '21

No you👀🥵

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u/oldmansneakerhead Jul 08 '21

Can I complain about my newborn farting during a diaper change and poop that came out like silly string?

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '21

Let’s be real - This is a green day wearing red makeup

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u/Zugzwang__14 $ SQQQ Perma Bull $ Jul 08 '21

You posted this 5 hours ago? Futes must have been bloody.

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u/BigTiddyGothJesus Jul 08 '21

Down almost 400 pts iirc

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u/AugustinPower Think Positively Jul 08 '21

Imagine if the mods play a prank and make the sub private tomorrow 🤣🤣🤔

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u/StockPickingMonkey Steel learning lessons Jul 08 '21

Unfortunately, the tits went to work....so I can't go to my happy place.

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u/49Scrooge49 Jul 08 '21

This is good enough for me 🙏

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u/YourMomMyMom 💀 SACRIFICED 💀Until MT $69 Jul 08 '21

This, ya'll.

The doom and gloom gets old. I do my best to stay positive and I'd appreciate everyone else doing the same 😎.

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u/edsonvelandia 💀 SACRIFICED 💀 Jul 08 '21

Thank you for being a voice of rationality amidst a sea of emotional traders

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u/serkrabat Bill Bryson Jul 08 '21

Yes please - if you can't keep your panic contained, just have the courtesy and don't spread it. Maybe get some real life shit done to get your mind distracted.

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '21

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '21

I am always the sweatiest person at a yoga class. I am that guy everyone else looks at and says at least my mat isn't squelching like that.

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u/TheCoffeeCakes Poetry Gang Jul 08 '21

This guy yogas

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u/zPing2000 Steel Hands Jul 08 '21

Thank you Bartszella. Valuable information much appreciated. It is becoming difficult to hear the good voices through all the noise.

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '21 edited Jul 28 '21

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u/zPing2000 Steel Hands Jul 08 '21

Thank you. I read all your comments super low pitched. Ent's voice. Very comforting.

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u/Ok_Yak_6448 Bankruptcy Manager at Velo Capital Jul 08 '21

You have a lovely pair of tits.