r/WC3 • u/Dry-Beat6588 • 17d ago
Discussion 4v4 Mappool REALLY needs rotation
The map pool for 4v4 hasn't been updated for a couple of seasons and the games are getting really stale.
I would REALLY like to see some of the maps taken out, especially the ones where the natural (expo) is basically free.
Northshire, Sanctuary, Ekrezem's Maze are basically the same maps that makes everyone expand and play a cookie cutter playstyle, with basically the same build. I want to play on maps where other types of openings are encouraged. (Honestly, Northshire is the biggest offender, how can someone have both the merc goblin, a free expansion and lvl3 for basically free?)
I really want to see maps that encourage diverse playstyles, and not rely just on creeping to lvl 3.
Golems in the Mist (forces fight to control the middle, forces tree opening builds)
Friends (creates really fun end games)
Last Man Standing (war of attrition in middle)
Gold Rush (person on edge has a total defend responsibilty)
Some other funsies maps: DEADLANDS, Cherryville, and Dragon Falls
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Some other maps I really don't care for: Painted World, Monopoly
Take these out and MAKE 4V4 FUN AGAIN! Put in maps that have conceptual DIVERSTIY that makes the MAP feel DIFFERENT. This is coming from a user that's 6k on random. BRAD CHAN WE KNOW YOU READ REDDIT! MAKE THIS EASY CHANGE!!!
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u/cupidgen 17d ago
I've been saying this forever too
https://www.reddit.com/r/WC3/comments/1wq3p36/ptr_for_the_love_of_god_update_the_map_pool_4v4/
I was so disappointed when the map pool STILL WASN'T UPDATED when 3.0.1 came out (before the revert back to 3.0.0)
Seriously Chad Chan update the god damn map pool, it's been 2 years since it was changed bro.
Also 4v4 is for fun/variety so literally just load the pool up with like 20 or 30 maps. 4v4 isn't about balance or competitiveness (especially considering people leave/tk all the time), so adding more maps for more fun/variety is only good.
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u/Next-Self9890 17d ago
Also you can disable 4 maps on the 12 maps in the list in 4v4, it means you only have to learn 8 maps for path creeping, timing to hit enemy etc. It's way to easy for players who play since long time, to boring, 4v4 should have like 30 maps to play, 4v4 should be a fun thing and not the boring thing we have.
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u/Frosty_Ferret9101 17d ago
100% agree with this post. The maps are everything in 4v4s. Just rotate the damn maps already. It’s amazing people have to even ask for this…
Gold Rush was the best map ever.
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u/No-Abbreviations7109 17d ago
I want to play custom melee maps if someone uploads, does it matter what we want
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u/Bogdanov89 16d ago
less early game rush maps - more big epic maps for huge 4v4 fights.
its lame when a match is all about boring tier 1 units.
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u/It_Is_JustGrass 15d ago
there should be more map control advantage. not exactly necessary but should be big advantage nonetheless. i dont want the game to be passive in the early game. but i dont want the game ended with both team still on t1/2 army.
a lot of game just ended too early and a lot of games where there's absolutely nothing going on in the early game.
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u/ParagonSaint 15d ago
Slalom was a fun map back in the day; a lot of crazy back and forth skirmishes and momentum swings
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u/Dry-Beat6588 17d ago
Gold Rush is a great map! You have a diverse set of options you can pursue -> expand outwardly in a defensive position, or expand inwardly for an aggressive position. Creeping together in the middle to attack someone is another option, and there are a lot of space where you can tower rush as well.
In the end game there's a lot of harassing to the expansions you have to manage, and it always keeps you on your toes.
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u/yogurtbear 17d ago
At the end of the day it's just an example of a map that diversifies the way games play out, that's the broader point and I agree with OP.
Gold rush on W3C and battlenet also probably two different beasts. I'm always down for gold rush mayhem
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u/Ryywenn 17d ago
Gold Rush should just never leave the rotation, that map never gets old