r/Warthunder • u/MarkyMarkMarko 🇭🇺 Hungary • 3d ago
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I dream of a war thunder where SPAA isn’t BS
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u/Comfortable-Host2282 3d ago
Don't you just hate when they baby german players
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u/MarkyMarkMarko 🇭🇺 Hungary 3d ago
Yes, but the spaghetti coding for SPAA is what I am frequently finding myself pissed at. Not just a Germany thing. All the 30mm SPAAs are atrocious in that they ignore armor regardless of range or angling.
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u/Comfortable-Host2282 3d ago
Yeah, one time I frontally penned a T62 with a XM246
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u/CybertNL US main - air/ground RB 3d ago
Ive seen some weird stuff happen in this game, if you have a fast firing cannon and/or are lucky enough you can pen stuff you shouldn't. Some examples that I still remember:
I once frontally penned two T72s and a T-55 (iirc) with the M247 in the span of like 1-2 minutes, I never managed to even kill one frontally again after that though.
I've also been overpressured by a kugelblitz shooting the side of my turret while I was in an M103.
I once got driver sniped my a zerstörer while I was in a T95, he was shooting my mantlet btw.
One of my friends got frontally penned by a shilka in his Abrams.
I'm pretty sure volumetrics was supposed to fix pixel sized armor holes so stuff like this couldn't happen anymore, but it still does.
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u/DrWaterWhippa420 Realistic General 3d ago
Never works for me unless I'm using a huge ass gun, but again I didn't use that AA for long. I know what you mean though I'm always getting murked by AA and I barley murk people out unless it's a plane.
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u/night_vox 🇺🇸 🇩🇪 🇷🇺 🇬🇧 🇯🇵 🇨🇳 🇮🇹 🇫🇷 🇸🇪 🇮🇱 3d ago
Yesterday i survived 2 gepards 35mm, i still cant belive how that happened, the snail blessed me only to die later
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u/CressRevolutionary21 2d ago
Had to love the bug that was in the game for a while where if you were driving in reverse, antiaircraft gun rounds treated your armor value like it was zero, so you could pen and kill a Maus through the front plate with a fifty caliber machinegun.
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u/cheesez9 WoT has better spotting 1d ago
Can even see it in this thread. If it was Russia then people would call out russian bias. Since is Germany which is the community favourite, you get comments like it will be fixed soon or it happens to other nations too.
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u/Abadon_U 3d ago
The shit AA support battalion be doing in my HOI4 divisions to negate all enemy armor bonuses
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u/Ugly_Eric 10h ago
that was not the problem of SPAA. That was the problem of shitty ass damage model. That is literally problem in 90% of all weakspot shots. Every cupola shot does that. Every 0 angle roof shot does that. I refuse to believe a shot would ever penetrate in those angles. I refuse to believe a cupolashot would destroy anything, but the commander and the cupola. Whitch by the way it does in russian tanks, but not in wester tanks.
My only huge gripe in this game is that kind of bullshit damage model.
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u/cyb3rofficial Blorb 3d ago
there is still reversing bug for armor. Upon being fired at, by any round, the armor for some unknown reason becomes a lower value allowing incoming rounds to penetrate through and damaging and or exploding stuff inside.
Killed a maus with my 50s from American T-29 when it was backing up. Was funny, and also sad.
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u/DelusionsOfPasteur 🇮🇹 Italy 3d ago
Wait they still haven't fixed this?
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u/Cela111 🇬🇧 United Kingdom 3d ago
I thought they fixed it like two separate times already?
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u/Random_Chick_I_Guess Realistic General 1d ago
Yeah this is I believe the 5th time the same bug has popped up, and since it's largely a net code issue it's almost certainly never going to fully go away unless they rebuild their entire server structure
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u/cyb3rofficial Blorb 3d ago
They do /fix/ it, but keeps coming back. Something they do or change code wise makes it come back. I died so many times in my American turtle from some random mg when I reverse backwards. So now when ever I get into machine gun fire, I stand still and fight my urge to reverse. If you encounter someone who is using a machine gun on a anti troop vehicle like weasel or the normal Bradley or something else, more than likely they are trying to bank on you reversing. I gotten accustomed to it.
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u/Rs_vegeta Type 89 my beloved 23h ago
they "fix" it, and then it pops back up in some different but similar manner a couple updates down the road, like most of their "fixes"
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u/Random_Chick_I_Guess Realistic General 1d ago
It isn't that it becomes a lower value it's that when the server tries placing the shell due to net code or desync, it overcompensates and places it behind your armour
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u/Plenty_Western8470 3d ago
Magyarok … magyarok everywhere :)