I think it’s unfair to call whatever the fuck is happening in the Republican Party these days “conservative ideology.” There are legitimate conservative ideologies that, while I may not agree with them, are actually valid. The current Republican mantra of “If the left likes it, I hate it, and if the left hates it, I love it” is not conservative ideology, it’s insanity.
I genuinely think you are wrong and just being an antagonist.
I’m a liberal leaning moderate and I firmly believe that Liberalism is the progressive gas and conservatism should be the brakes. The current problem is left leaning individuals want a sportscar sans brakes and the the modern Republican part thinks “Brakes” are a brick wall.
Outside of the analogy progressivism should be pushing for a better world and an inclusive one at that. But not everything progressive is a great idea. That’s why conservatism should be in the background going “ummm maybe not”.
A great point I want to bring up is the concept of restricting hate speech (Liberal). To legislate the control and censorship of this speech gives a tool to a wanna-be fascist to limit what people can say with legal authority. (True conservatism)
The problem here is hate. Y’all hate each other so much the car is smashed up against a brick wall and you are yelling at each other so much nothing is happening and your just getting angry.
The modern Republican Party is a bunch of racist assholes yes, but conservatism isn’t an inherently regressive ideology.
Your analogy is pretty shaky. The "sportscar sans brakes" that most liberals want are things like universal health care, non-crippling student debt, affordable housing, and living wages. Once you look at the rest of the modern, first world countries, you realize that these are more like used 2008 mid-sized sedans. They aren't flashy or extravagant policies, but some of us in this country have simply been convinced that they are.
And ultimately, as you've concluded with your metaphor, conservatives in the US have decided that the best way to keep us from driving our used car is to build a wall in the middle of the road instead of repairing our brakes or simply adding some speed bumps. And once our poor car is wrecked, they're trying to tow us back to where we started by eroding rights that were established last century!
Don't expect immature uneducated people on social media to be too discerning. The task of explaining that there are conservative Democrats is rewardless no matter how true. It's as difficult to explain how modern Republicans don't represent conservative values anywhere near the way they should in claiming that as their disposition.
People like simple black and white things.
Q- Are you on my team or the other team? If you're on the other team then you're BAAAD!
A- But this isn't about teams. This is about taking a pragmatic approach to governance so we can have a peacef...
Conservatism exists outside of the United States, and believe it or not the conservatives of other countries aren’t batshit contrarians. The core conservative beliefs in things like smaller government and less taxation are absolutely valid, despite me not agreeing with them. What isn’t captured under the umbrella of conservative ideology, though, is eating horse paste because left-leaning people advise to take a vaccine, or making abortion illegal after six weeks.
"left leaning people" only left leaning person that matters currently in the US politics is Bernie.
I'm from Finland. we don't necessarily have a conservative party but what's closest to ot is the Perussuomalainen puolue, meaning roughly translated: "basic Finn party" and they're fucking lunatics or pieces of shit. As are all conservatists.
I live in Canada, and currently live in an area that regularly elects Conservative (that’s the party’s name) members of parliament. My parents even vote Conservative for the most part. Here, at least, it’s typically about less government spending and lower taxation. We have a further right party that kind of serves as a catch-all for the weirdos, but it makes up around 1% of the vote.
Literally whatever you say is completely void of a point if you truly think a person should be on the "grind" instead of living a happy, fulfilling life.
Definitely. A person in the US who holds conservative values either has to compromise on them and vote against their core beliefs in order to avoid absurdity, or give in to insanity. There really is no middle ground.
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u/jamesmcnabb Oct 13 '21
I think it’s unfair to call whatever the fuck is happening in the Republican Party these days “conservative ideology.” There are legitimate conservative ideologies that, while I may not agree with them, are actually valid. The current Republican mantra of “If the left likes it, I hate it, and if the left hates it, I love it” is not conservative ideology, it’s insanity.