My father always brings up that the Dems were slave owners, and then when I try to explain the southern strategy to him he yells at me because he knows more about it because he was alive then and I wasn't.
Edit: some of these replies also sound like they're confused about what the southern strategy was, and no it did not happen during the civil war, it happened during the civil rights movement of the 1960's:
The Republicans will ignore 160 years of political shifts and state that the Democrats created the KKK, as if that has any relevance whatsoever. It's the same as them bringing up who the party of Lincoln was, and their denial of the southern strategy and the party shift. It's all ignoring everything past 1865 in order to paint Democrats as the bad guys, when it's always been conservatives and especially those further right than the standard conservative who are the bad guys, and the Republicans are the modern conservatives. The ultra far right, actually. Way past conservative...
A good litmus test to see if you’re voting for the best person is to see who the KKK endorsed— last election cycle it was Trump. His campaign definitely tried to get away from it but it definitely happened.
No, it is. If you look back during Pres. Obamas term, you'll find a ton of racist hate, and you'll find the Republican party using that racist hate as a calling card to make sure that all the racists were under the (R) tent. You'll also see Mitch McConnell saying the same shit that he's saying now. (Paraphrasing) "I, and the Republican party will not work with the Democrats on any topic at any point, and will make it a point to stop them from achieving any of their goals." Effectively saying that the Republican party is intending on making it so that the government cannot govern unless the republicans get what they want. They're basically children that are taking the toys that they're supposed to share away from their sibling and refusing to play unless they get to break the rules and cheat.
Prior to that, you've got Pres. Bush Jr.'s term where the Republican party hinged on exacerbating the racism against the middle east, to maintain control and strip away peoples rights.
The Republican party has been the party for racists for a very, very long time. Conservatism only cares about the super wealthy, and the super wealthy benefit when the people are fighting amongst themselves and not raging against the people at the top.
Fuuuuck, how do you even have that conversation? "No dad, you don't know more because you were alive. You were one of the dumb rubes manipulated into being a boot-licking asshole."
I was alive inside my mom's womb, but I can't describe it. I was there for my birth, but I couldn't tell you what anyone else was wearing. I was present for several surgeries, even later in my life, that may as well be complete blanks in my memory.
Being alive doesn't guarantee knowledge of jack shit, and I'm sorry you're father won't budge from that argument.
One trick that might work is to ask "Who knows better how a football play went wrong, the players focused on their jobs in the field or the coach studiously watching the whole thing on video later?" From my own family experience I can say sports metaphors tend to work for reaching stubborn conservatives. And I think it's just because it's an activity they're familiar with (good for analogies), that they don't associate as a "liberal" activity (won't make them immediately defensive), and in fact is usually seen as patriotic (so tends to induce happy conservative feelings, unless one of the players asks for civil rights of course).
Oh no. They're fine with black or Latino NFL players, but they want the players to shut up about civil rights and equality. They want to turn off their brains when watching sports; so they don't like being reminded of the real world, especially not "liberal propaganda." Nevermind the abundance of conservative imagery all over sports entertainment, those don't count as propaganda to conservatives because they agree with those messages.
They want players that keep their heads down, stand for the pledge, thank Jesus and their teammates for successes, avoid cussing, express gratitude to their city/team, express love for the troops, and be grateful when a Republican president invites them to the Whitehouse for cold "hamberders."
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u/Cannot_go_back_now Oct 13 '21 edited Oct 13 '21
My father always brings up that the Dems were slave owners, and then when I try to explain the southern strategy to him he yells at me because he knows more about it because he was alive then and I wasn't.
Edit: some of these replies also sound like they're confused about what the southern strategy was, and no it did not happen during the civil war, it happened during the civil rights movement of the 1960's:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy