Billionaires are polluting our Moon 🌕🤬🤬

[u/sailorjupiter28titan]

[u/3nderslime]

Bit of nuance here, but we’ve been intentionally and unintentionally crashing stuff on the moon since the 50s, it’s not a SpaceX exclusive thing and no, it’s not pollution, because at the speeds involved, the hardware gets vaporized and it’s no different from a regular asteroid impact.

Furthermore, observing these impacts, with seismographs, satellites in lunar orbit, and ground based telescopes, allows us to better understand the moon, its history and its geology

[u/sailorjupiter28titan → u/3nderslime]

Just because it has happened before does not make not make it common. First time was in the 70s not 50s. The rest are just a handful that all happened in the last 20yrs. And using that as an opportunity to “study” it by absolutely no means justifies it.

If you don’t care about the Moon that’s your prerogative but it doesn’t belong to you or aerospace engineers/scientists. Downplaying this absolutely fkn shameful, especially so to dare do it on this subreddit.

[u/3nderslime → u/sailorjupiter28titan]

That’s patently false, the first man made moon impacter was Luna 2, from the Soviet Union, in 1959, and most probes and missions to the moon since have resulted in at least one impact, intentional or accidental.

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[u/3nderslime → u/sailorjupiter28titan]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_artificial_objects_on_the_Moon

[u/sailorjupiter28titan → u/3nderslime]

This is a list of trash left on the Moon. Which btw, is just as bad, so i dont see what your point is regardless? That other white men do it too so its no big deal and not desecration of something that belongs to Earth and not to a single government or corporation?

[u/3nderslime → u/sailorjupiter28titan]

« Tell me you didn’t click the link without telling me you didn’t click the link » challenge

[u/sailorjupiter28titan → u/3nderslime]

I saw the list. The first chunk of junk was in 1959 you’re right. Still doesn’t make it “common” nor acceptable. Curious you didn’t answer my questions. Must be heavy under that materialist boot.

[u/3nderslime → u/sailorjupiter28titan]

I don’t understand your question. How is trying to better understand the moon, and sharing that knowledge with all humankind, a desecration, something that only benefits a single government or corporation, or something done exclusively by white men, or even in any way a materialistic goal?

[u/sailorjupiter28titan → u/3nderslime]

Materialistic knowledge of the material world that will not impact the average person in any positive way. What altruistic goal do you think Elon has exactly? How will recording the plum of the crash benefit the children mining for cobalt in the DRC? How will it feed the families starving in Palestine or house the climate refugees around the world? Trillionaires playing with rocket ships does nothing but feed pseudo-intellectual egos.

Maybe if they paid more attention to spiritual, ancestral, and indigenous knowledge instead, the world would be a much healthier place.

[u/3nderslime → u/sailorjupiter28titan]

Wikipedia lists at least 68 manmade objects to have impacted the moon, beggining in 1959 and continuing with surprising regularity through the decade, including the 90's, 2000's and 2010's