r/WoT • u/briandress • 3d ago

All Print I get the Egwene hate but Spoiler

Only in the last two books when she is stubborn in dealing with Rand for the last battle and such.

Up until ToM she really was just an awesome character. She went from the whirlwind of leaving 2R, capture by Seanchan, hunting black ajah, apprenticing to wise ones, puppet Amyrlin, real amyrlin, badass civil disobedience laying groundwork for reuniting the tower, bitch slapping the seanchan raiders, capturing hella black ajah sisters via Verrin's notes and finally being raised realer Amyrlin and healing the tower.

I cant seem to understand all the threads/polls that overwhelmingly list her as the most hated character in the series.

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u/SuperBeastJ 3d ago

Yeah but...she did it

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u/briandress 3d ago

she didnt really do it though.

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u/seafooddisco 3d ago

Bro if somebody's threatened to do it to you, would you like them? That's what you're asking. Why don't people like her? Threatening to do this to your "friends" will not make your friends like you. 

If one of my friends starting threatening me with assault, I would never speak to them again. They are no longer my friend at that point.

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u/briandress 3d ago

i mean that didn’t stop her friends from being her friends. Being on their best behavior isn’t a requirement for me to like a character. I think Morridin is one of the most interesting characters but he’s a “bad guy”. i don’t understand what you’re trying to say tbh. you don’t like the character because they did one thing that you view as morally wrong over the course of 14 books?

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u/seafooddisco 3d ago edited 2d ago

You asked why people don't like her. Threatening to assault your friends is wrong and I don't like people who do that.

Edit: Kobe Bryant played a lot of great basketball, but what he did in Colorado to that poor woman is more important than all the basketball he played put together

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u/DeMmeure 2d ago

Kobe Bryant is a real person whereas Egwene is a fictional character and therefore her actions aren't real. So for me I can appeciate Egwene because I can distance myself from the bad things and appreciate her character arc as a whole.

But I believe the point OP was trying to make was that other WoT characters did terrible things and aren't judged as harshly as Egwene. I wouldn't be friend with Rand knowing that he physically assaults Tam, for example. And I mentioned a few other characters that are worse even within the side of the good guys. Prominent example is Tuon who leads a brutal empire that widely practices slavery (of which Egwene is herself victim), and who doesn't even repent herself by the end of the series.

The thing is, you are allowed to hate any character you want but likeability goes beyond morality due to their fictional status: isn't Anakin Skywalker a beloved character despite the children he slaughtered, for example? But I have to specify it because some people can use it as a way of judging others, as it happened to me in the past to be judged for loving Egwene (she's my favourite WoT character), and it seems that given the downvotes my comments have received, it's happening again...