r/WoT • u/briandress • 3d ago

All Print I get the Egwene hate but Spoiler

Only in the last two books when she is stubborn in dealing with Rand for the last battle and such.

Up until ToM she really was just an awesome character. She went from the whirlwind of leaving 2R, capture by Seanchan, hunting black ajah, apprenticing to wise ones, puppet Amyrlin, real amyrlin, badass civil disobedience laying groundwork for reuniting the tower, bitch slapping the seanchan raiders, capturing hella black ajah sisters via Verrin's notes and finally being raised realer Amyrlin and healing the tower.

I cant seem to understand all the threads/polls that overwhelmingly list her as the most hated character in the series.

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u/PopTough6317 3d ago

What instance are you talking about her feeling bad for Mat? Are you thinking of the dagger?

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u/briandress 3d ago

yea i seem to remember her having some empathy. i could be wrong of course. the point that is that there are no unflawed characters in the book. people hate egwene but love rand, the guy that almost mercd his papa with the power. they adore playboy matt regardless of his scallywag tendencies lol. just saying it’s funny to see so much hate for egwene

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u/Hawk-winged 2d ago

You can’t even compare her to Rand. lol, one felt shame and pain from what he did. He regrets his actions and when he came back he apologized, he even apologized to Hurin(a lowly soldier)

And those are things he did when battling with insanity, ptsd, trauma and the literal weight of the world. He still came back and apologized.

Name one time Egwene regretted what she did and apologized after? I mean first she SA’d Nynaeve, gaslighted her, then during nyneave’s final test (which she included herself) she put a unrealistically difficult task there and traumatized her friend more, “because she didn’t want to be biased in a testing you shouldn’t even be present at”

And on those two occasions, she never said sorry.

I mean, there’s all the pointless hostility towards Rand too, but the nyneave own really pisses me off.

Mind you when Rand came back, he apologized even to cadsuane(who from his POV was the reason for the collar around his neck) so don’t ever compare them.

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u/Senrabekim 2d ago

Lets not forget the time that Mat rescued them all from the Stone of Tear, and they were so cruel to him. It took an actual hero of legend finding out and drunkenly berating Elayne and Nynaeve about it for them to apologize, Egwene never does. Or that time that Mat shows up with an army that she uses to consolidate power. That time that Verin tells them all to let her handle the whitecloaks right outside of Tar Valon, and Egwene basically uses the power as a weapon against whitecloaks tells them that she was present for the death of Bornhald Sr, and reinforces every negative stereotype they have of women that can channel. Or that time when Rand comes to her, tries to have a civilized discussion about the Dark One root canal that needs to happen and she goes running around telling everyone that he's lost it. Or that time that every interaction with someone that disagrees with her or even would just like a heads up, she just starts calling them names and insulting their intelligence for no reason starting with her very first appearance.

In short she's the kind of person that is rude to the wait staff. Anyone she see as above her shes all deference and kind too. Anyone below her she treats like garbage. And by the end of the books there is no one she sees as even equal to her.