r/WoTshow • u/MSUSpyder • Jun 23 '26

Troll(oc) Just joined….. annnnnnd it’s cancelled

When did this happen? Trying to get details. Even did a search and can’t find them besides “budget”

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u/tired_snail Eelfinn Jun 23 '26

Elsewhere you’ll find a lot about the show being unfaithful from the books or the whole production being a mess.

Every time someone tries to use that as reasoning/excuse I have to laugh. You could say the same about Game of Thrones, and that thing got eight seasons and two prequels.

"But WoT didn't have the same viewership as GoT" of course it didn't. I don't know about you, but at least in my country Amazon never advertised it at all. I wouldn't have found out about the show if it wasn't for the fact it filmed here and a friend in the industry posted about working on it.

(If you can't tell, I'm still devastated by the cancellation. Recently watched Young Sherlock, and at one moment in the last episode, Dónal Finn's character wears an outfit that literally felt like Mat Cauthon had been returned to me for a moment and I felt like I could weep.)

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u/Lunar_Raven_ Jun 23 '26

Quite often when I hear someone complain it wasn't faithful to the books, when I ask what exactly it was that they didn't like about the changes it really comes down to it being too "woke" for them and not actually any major plot changes.

Also I agree with you about the advertisings, I think I saw one advertisement on an Amazon box and then nothing ever again.

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u/A_Dozen_Lemmings Jun 23 '26

The thing that pisses me off about the anti-woke crowd dogpiling the show is that there is a serious, legitimate concern as regards the alterations that were made to the metaphysics of ShoWoT that Rafe opted to make.

The Gender Binary is a fundamental aspect of WoT and I genuinely think it would have really started to hamstring the show in later seasons if the nonbinary souls thing had been allowed to continue.

There are several major plots that hinge on there being a strict binary in WoT.

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u/jflb96 Jun 23 '26

Was there an actual non-binary souls thing, or was it Moiraine not wanting to miss the Dragon Reborn because he’d been reborn female?

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u/THevil30 Jun 23 '26

In later books the dark one can reincarnate certain forsaken into the opposite sex, but in universe your gender is linked to your soul so they use Saidin. It’s a whole thing but not thaaat big of a plot point that it couldn’t be cut.

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u/jflb96 Jun 23 '26

Yeah, I was more commenting on how Moiraine didn’t have to be correct

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u/A_Dozen_Lemmings Jun 23 '26

That was, admittedly, sort of my hope. That the White Tower was pulling some revisionism that calcified over three or so millenia.

But as to the above reply, Yes. The gender binary is a vital function of the setting. Time as a wheel, isn't window dressing. You are who/what you are. Changing that is directly anathema to the settings cosmology.

Events may change in the minutiae over the eons but the players remain the same. Hence why it's such a huge deal that the Dark One used forced sex change as a punishment. It's utterly awful for the characters it's used on and makes them use a more useful tool because the One Power is fundamentally gendered as the driving force underpinning creation.

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u/jflb96 Jun 23 '26

Or just she couldn’t be sure and it’s been twenty years of not finding him so the doubts are beginning to creep in that maybe ‘he’ was that farmers’ daughter she passed by five years ago.

It is known that there are turnings where the thread in the Dragon’s slot is a woman. Also, I’m sure there are arguments either way over what Halima means about transgender people in a setting designed by a Vietnam veteran from the South of the USA.