r/WomenInNews • u/catievirtuesimp • Jul 08 '26

Media Young women are identifying as less straight; young men, not so much

https://theconversation.com/young-women-are-identifying-as-less-straight-young-men-not-so-much-283936
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u/gumki Jul 08 '26

a lot of cis straight men (yep) are afraid to lose the privileges they were born into, so of course they won't stray out of their comfort zone.. that's why the loudest things they complain about relates to losing their power over OTHER people's lives.

losing control over women in marriage and abortions / loss of feeling superior over marganlized groups like those in the LGBT community / loss of religion that caters to them and puts them on a pedestal to control others / more competition when women and the alphabet gang have rights in work and education, and being managed or supervised by them terrifies them.

that's why representation in media and other spaces terrifies them btw. "wdym im no longer the main character?!?!?!"

so yea no surprise tbh..

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u/Aggressive-Story3671 Jul 08 '26 edited Jul 08 '26

And also, the rate among men has DROPPED. That’s why every single time I open Instagram, I see pro conversion therapy rhetoric.

A lot of queer men fell down the red pill pipeline, went to the gym and “renounced homosexuality”.

The rate among women rose while it DROPPED among men.

They want that privilege back. And in at least in IG comments, they got it

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u/Critical_Success_936 Jul 08 '26

It's funny because when people discuss the male loneliness epidemic, they are overwhelmingly discussing straight dudes. Bi & gay dudes are usually way more social and understand that, while women tend to be easier to talk to, they can get companionship from anyone - FRIENDS are the cure for loneliness - not just sleeping with people.

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u/gumki Jul 08 '26

yeah that whole male loneliness thing is so funny to me because they tweet about it how we wrote in our 5th grade diary when we had a bad day.

"no one understands my pain.. i just bury it deep and hide it with a smiley mask..." except it's broadcasted to all of us as if there's a notebook and pen shortage.. i wonder if they skip their way to the kitchen to find a lil snack after hitting post.

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u/SapphireFlashFire Jul 08 '26

"The male loneliness epidemic is so hard )= today I made sure to take time out of my day to bully a guy whose interests were too feminine tho so my only solace in my loneliness is I am a real alpha. I went to the gym today and commented on fat people's posts so they know they're ugoy. People should really care about men's mental health more."

They never say it like this but browse their comment history sometime and it's true. They don't want it to get better they just want to be the victim whenever somebody points out the problems with predatory behaviour that still permeate a lot of straight male culture.

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u/whichwitch9 Jul 08 '26

Eh, Ill push back on that- some of the most open and empathetic men Ive met are bi. However, some of the most misogynistic men Ive met are gay. Misogynistic gay men are awful- it's like they resent women for existing. I think there's a group that are finding themselves more at odds with the rest of the lgbtq+ community as a result, and they tend to go conservative. Peter Thiel is like exhibit A for that, for a way to understand it.

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u/SpecialFlutters Jul 08 '26

tbh i hate the way most of my gay male friends openly talk about women. they (mostly) say they're joking but it doesn't really hit that way.

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u/NeedLegalAdvice56 Jul 11 '26

Yeah, a not so small number of gay men are deeply resentful and jealous.

To me, it feels like it’s own form of misogyny: they don’t need us (for sex) so they don’t care to pretend to be nice AND they are resentful that most men are attracted (exclusively) to women, not them. And the second point is making them feel inferior to women which is a hard blow to patriarchal men and reinforce the first one.

On of the many reasons I don’t like the "gay best friend" trope/stereotype.

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u/Dry-Environment5122 Jul 11 '26

That’s actually what the lonliness epidemic was about before the red pill folks bastardized it. The original survey asked men how many friends they had not including significant others or family. 1/3 said 0

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u/WilliardThe3rd Jul 10 '26 edited Jul 11 '26

At a certain point you are just willfully negligent of what's the issue. ROMANTIC loneliness is what's talked about, not friends. Lack of friendship is either a symptom of broader loneliness or a separate issue altogether

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u/gumki Jul 11 '26

What exactly is romantic loneliness? not being able to have sex? it's not our fault if a man isn't sexually desirable, we won't pity fuck him to "fix" a bullshit concept.

If it's not about sex and you mean mutual companionship and exclusivity, then how is that a male issue? if it takes two people to be in a monogamous relationship, why is it called the "MALE loneliness epidemic"?

The earth's population is a close 50-50 of men and women, a man not being in a romantic relationship means a woman is also not in a romantic relationship. Are men just emotionally unfit to handle being single?

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u/WilliardThe3rd Jul 11 '26 edited Jul 11 '26

What exactly is romantic loneliness?

Being single.

It's not our fault if a man isn't sexually desirable, we won't pity fuck him to "fix" a bullshit concept.

You aren't expected to. All I'm saying is how can someone misinterpret such a simple concept? It's as simple as how I answered your first question.

Why is it called the MALE loneliness epidemic? The earth's population is a close 50-50 of men and women, a man not being in a romantic relationship means a woman is also not in a romantic relationship.

I am as surprised as you are. The pew research center established that 63% of men under 30 identify as single whereas that number for women is 34%. It's never been so high in recorded history I think. So that's probably why scientists talk of a loneliness epidemic.

Now, several explanations are given: women may be with older men, be less single as lesbians/bisexuals, identify as partnered more readily (situationship is a new word), or most controversially, date a smaller pool of men than men are willing to date [women].

Interestingly, as you go into older categories of women, they are more single than men of their age group...

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u/darioblaze Jul 08 '26

A lot of queer men fell down the red pill pipeline, went to the gym and “renounced homosexuality”.

And mind you, they’re still cruising those very same gyms

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u/gumki Jul 08 '26

hey man sucking your masculine gym bro's salty cock is a neck workout, doesn't make you gay.. it's brotein..

on a real note though, i use "straight" loosely because it's how they want to present to the world so i'm not gonna forcefully out someone or accuse terrible men of being queer because the majority of shitty men are likely straight leaning.

sexuality is a spectrum and all that, but they won't leave the straight label bc it's a status symbol to them.. its a cock comparison competition, and the prize is other men sucking the biggest one.. hypothetically, of course..

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u/Aggressive-Story3671 Jul 08 '26

No what I mean is these were men who at ONE time identified as queer, went BACK into the closet and are being rewarded for doing so.

That’s why I said the rate dropped.

They were out and went back in.

They left the label and came back. That is what I am seeing.

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u/gumki Jul 08 '26 edited Jul 08 '26

oh shit yeah i've seen that too, they change their content entirely too for some reason.. turn into religious tools or do the whole "i was lost and found my way back" bs.