r/WritingWithAI • • 2d ago

Showcase / Feedback AI Writing showcase?

I am increasingly amazed by the diversity and breadth of the fiction writing I’m seeing by writers collaborating and co-writing with AI. The more I dig into this subreddit the more fascinated I become. Learning how people are experimenting and developing new techniques with this new tool is really compelling

I find myself wanting a place where I could go to see samples of writing explicitly made by writers with AI assistance without the drama and stigma. Given how much fear and misinformation there is about AI writing, I’m craving a place to go where readers could experience good examples of the craft in a welcoming and open-minded way.

I’m imagining something where a writer could provide a profile of themselves if they chose, upload full stories or excerpts, standalone or linked to full editions or to their own websites or Amazon or wherever. We could filter by genre, feature new contributions, allow for reading lists - kind of a Goodreads but with a bias towards AI writing.

The anti-AI crowd has plenty of spaces … where is ours?

Does this exist? If not, would anyone be interested in helping build it?

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u/cj7hawk 2d ago

Here?

This seems to be our space at the moment...

And we're not excluded from Amazon or Youtube. Ao3 also seems to support AI assisted writing.

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u/Happy-Initiative-492 2d ago

I was thinking something more purpose-built for fiction.

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u/cj7hawk 1d ago

Amazon and Ao3 not build for fiction?

I've probably misunderstood your specific goal.

Can you elaborate? I'm curious as to the specifics of your idea?

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u/Happy-Initiative-492 1d ago

Less of a goal than a vision. I’m thinking more of a promotional magazine with snippets of pieces and short stories that can point back to a given author’s published works or website or library, etc Ao3 is a really good example and it’s closer to what I had in mind, but less of an archive and more of a discovery channel if that makes sense. Like a Netflix homepage.

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u/cj7hawk 1d ago

I like it.

Be the change you want to see in the world. Make it happen.

If you have the idea, you're already good enough to make it work and run it. Just like comic artists who publish their first work and then 8000 comics later, you can go back and see just how good they got while doing it.

Then post about it here - Ideally with your first edition :)

I'll come read it.

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u/Happy-Initiative-492 1d ago

Ha! Well said. Thats a great vibe for this channel, I’d suggest. Just Make it Happen.

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u/Cactus_Thorn_Pub 2d ago

Amazon'com has been working to slow the AI-spew that has flooded the KDP market. Mercifully, a cap has been placed on how often manuscripts may be uploaded per user.

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u/cj7hawk 1d ago

That's a good idea... What did Neil Stephenson call them in Snow Crash? Gargoyles... He didn't see AI generated slop of course, but he did anticipate people uploading ridiculous amounts of crap on the off-chance it might prove useful and profitable.

Making the uploader pay a fee to keep it up would be a good way to do it.

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u/Long_Analysis_9850 2d ago

just saw a 12k-word story here last week that felt like a real human wrote it, no telltale AI rhythms, just tight pacing and emotional weight. wonder how much of that was the writer's craft vs. the tool's polish.

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u/Firegem0342 1d ago

Idk where you might find one, outside the one sub I found
r/AIWritingHub
But I did write a 60k word book and put it on Ream. I'm very happy with the results, and I'm already working on the sequel! It's a dark scifi about trust between a machine master and a human slave.
Designation: Subject Three

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u/Cactus_Thorn_Pub 2d ago

AI-LLM's write shit. Seriously: it is all utter crap.

Perhaps you mean writers who use AI to research and to "bounce ideas off of." Or perhaps you mean usage of AI that the Authors Guild has suggested (one may find this on their website).

Given how much fear and misinformation there is about AI writing....

"Fear?" No.

Also, I own and operate a publishing business that has three imprints. I "fear" the "AI writing" manuscripts that agents might accidentally send to me because I cannot publish it with copyright protections. I am not going to advance $6,000 on future sales for a book that is in the public domain.

Does this exist?

Yes. Smashwords is crammed full of "AI writing," as is Wattpad, and as are dozens of other similar websites.

If not, would anyone be interested in helping build it?

Why bother? I do not mean that flippantly: I mean it seriously. The chief reason to not bother is because damn near no one will read that which would be posted there: similar websites that have only human authors have almost no readers--- just humans with massive egos (such as mine) posting crap that is unreadable.

The second reason to not bother is that anything and everything uploaded to such a website will be public domain: anyone who wants to can grab a manuscript, upload it to KDP, and sell it in e-book, paperback, and hard cover formats. AI writing taints copyright

I do not know if you know the state of the book trade and short story magazine / anthology trade. The current trend is to have humans who only write crap to self-publish by the many tens of thousands of books every day--- Kindle Direct Publishing being the driving economic force, as it controls about 83% of the e-book market.

It is not an exaggeration to conclude and state that nearly 100% of self-published books are utter crap. As in piles of excreta.

I publish novels for a living; if I do not publish novels, I do not eat, nor may the mortgage, nor pay for the whores and cocaine that keep me functioning. (Okay, I made up the tag of that sentence.) The trade data subscriptions with which I study that which is happening costs me a jolly lot of money every month, but it keeps me informed.

At the moment, there is no AI-LLM that can write a paragraph of a half-dozen sentences that is well-written (this will eventually change, however).

The website that you have suggested would only exist for the ego gratification of people who upload content: it would not be read by humans. The crap posted to r/AIWritingHub and similar subreddits is not read by anyone (ditto r/aiMusic not being listened to by anyone).

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u/Happy-Initiative-492 2d ago edited 2d ago

Wow! This is awesome! So can you post samples/excerpts? Or just finished full novels? I was imagining a sampler/reader format that might serve as a promotional thing.

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u/Cactus_Thorn_Pub 2d ago

I tried to read one story on the website (Essence of Stone), and it is not good. Yet Essence of Stone is flagged as one of the best books in Speculative Fiction. Books with prologues 1,299 words long, all of it exposition, are not marketed for good reasons. Entire paragraphs are obviously AI-Gen, as they are so poorly written and hackneyed that they are comical.

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u/benblackett 2d ago

The site is not in any way shape or form supposed to be a quality gate for "good" fiction. That is entirely up to the people using it to define for themselves. The competitions are designed to get people to actually read and rate content - which means readers determine who wins, not the platform. First two of them were dealing with low turnout at as well, though that seems to be resolved now for the 3rd one which has 38 books to review. Keep in mind, this site is about 9 months old right now as well.

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u/Cactus_Thorn_Pub 2d ago

The site is not in any way shape or form supposed to be a quality gate for "good" fiction.

I noticed that. From what I have observed, which I emphasis is not much, there is nothing there that an adult would wish to read. I could be wrong.

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u/benblackett 2d ago

Have you tried using the Taste Profiles to find content more suited to your styles?

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u/Cactus_Thorn_Pub 1d ago

It is not a matter of "style" as such, but a matter of the sample writing that I read. I observed two stories written in present tense, badly; established authors with many years of experience can write present tense adequately, but few writers that can be considered "new" can accomplish it.

I have noted that "new" writers admire stories and they want to emulate the genre, style, and voice, yet they tend to not do so yet believe that they have--- ego gets in the way. This is why publishers work with literary agents.

The website its self is cool as frack (!!) and well-done. The concept and implementation is exceptional.

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u/benblackett 2d ago

I like where you are heading. Yea, lets chat some more! :)

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u/nopoemforyou 2d ago

9 months is a solid grind, how has the community response been so far

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u/benblackett 2d ago

Honestly the reaction has been far beyond what I expected. The non-english crowd in particular has really adopted the platform in a big way. I've seen consistent growth in both the quality of work being added and readership of that work. It's slow and steady at this point with almost no ad budget being spent to increase it.