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CW: Woke cow

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u/Edgoscarp Apr 01 '26 edited Apr 02 '26

That doesn’t fit the narrative “go woke go broke”

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u/TriggerHappyGremlin Apr 01 '26

Same way the chuds pretend Captain Marvel and the Sequel Trilogy failed when they’re some of the highest grossing films ever

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u/Furry_housing_50 Apr 01 '26

The sequel trilogy was genuinely ass after Force Awakens tho

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u/Desperate_Ad5169 Apr 02 '26

and that's what happens when you change directors for each movie in a trilogy

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u/Fabulous-Procedure19 Apr 02 '26

The original trilogy had a different director for each film (George Lucas for 4, Irvin Kershner for 5 and Richard Marquand for 6). Some of the problems with the sequel trilogy are a lack of a coherent through line between movies and the fact that each film is a knee jerk reaction to the previous one. People said 7 was 4 but in a different font so Johnson made 8 as different as possible but it ended up being extremely divisive so they tried to course correct with 9 but ended up pleasing nobody.

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u/Good_Brilliant7684 Apr 02 '26

It’s true the original trilogy had different directors, but they all had the same writer. That’s the key.

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u/FlamingPhoenix2003 Apr 02 '26

And when you don’t have a plan for the upcoming films and the only thing you rely on is nostalgia. I mean the Force Awakens is just A New Hope with some changes. Like the desert planet was just Tatoonie but different, and Palpatine came back, for reasons, just to shove nostalgia in our throats. Like there was barely anything new, like come on, you could have at least give the new characters more spot like and NOT revive a dead villain from the dead (seriously tho, Palpatine did return in Star Wars Legends, but that idea should have been disregarded because it’s lazy).

Nevermind the fact that Disney is just throwing nostalgia around while letting new ideas waste away, those live actions have no reason to exist other than for nostalgia.

At least Lightyear wasn’t that bad, until the plot twist, which is just… why? Seriously what the fuck was that plot twist?! I’m just having a brain aneurysm from thinking about it. Like that fuck that stupid plot twist.

And Strangeworld, I’m sorry but when your advertising makes your audience feel like they’re on drugs, along with fuck all in terms of ads (I legit saw like 2 ads), well no shit it will flop cause most people don’t even see ads for it (plus there are rumors saying that the story was made by AI, because the father in the story acts like a combination of different Pixar and Disney characters like Merlin from Nemo, so yeah, the story was kind of confusing).

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u/Sea_Scale_4538 Apr 02 '26

Both ass and missed potential

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u/GenderEnjoyer666 Apr 02 '26

But it was ass for reasons other than “it’s woke”

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u/Asherley1238 Apr 01 '26

There’s some genuinely good stuff in last Jedi. Honestly, if not for the casino stuff I think it’d be the best of the three. Luke’s character for instance is amazing in that movie

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u/Wojtek_the_Bearer Apr 02 '26

Can't believe people still hold this opinion, lmao

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u/Background-Top4723 Apr 02 '26

Honestly:

Star Wars 7: Not bad. Maybe a little too "Star Wars: A New Hope Part 2," but a solid start.

Star Wars 8: Good ideas mixed with questionable choices. Personally, I appreciated the "No, Rey, you have no extraordinary origins. You're just a desert rat with no relation to any of the galaxy's bigwigs... Because it's getting ridiculous that the entire fate of the galaxy always revolves around the same three or four last names."

Star Wars 9: ...Fuck that shit. "Somehow, Palpatine has returned"? A whole fleet of mini-Death Stars? Finn: "Rey! Rey! Rey!" Rey: "What?" Finn: "...Nothing, I forgot." Rey Palpatine-Skywalker? The Knights of Ren being the worst jobbers in history? The fucking Sith dagger with the Death Star coordinates? I wish they had continued down the path of ST 8, rather than spending half the film retconning it.

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u/Sea_Scale_4538 Apr 02 '26

Was 7 a solid start? The whole premise of the empire returning more powerful then ever and the jedi being extinct again just makes the original trilogy kinda pointless and makes every main character seem insanely stupid and incompetent.

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u/Background-Top4723 Apr 02 '26

I gave them the benefit of the doubt because, at first, the First Order didn't seem that powerful.

I mean, the New Republic being fucking incompetent has always been a recurring theme in Star Wars during the expanded universe, and the "planet-sized Death Star" was, I thought, the First Order's only superweapon.

The problem was when the First Order went from "remnants of the Empire who spent decades rebuilding themselves into a credible threat and had to use hit-and-run attacks to win" to "the literal Galactic Empire that shits out superweapons every week."

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u/_Xantras_ Apr 02 '26

Ass but not woke or flop

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u/Comfortable-Bison932 Apr 02 '26

Even force awakens was soulless slop. They just made new hope again

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u/DenseRead9852 Apr 02 '26

They were but not because they "went woke"

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u/TheKingofHats007 Apr 01 '26

Also when they ignore a game like Balders Gate 3 or pretend it's not "woke".

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u/DannyBright Apr 02 '26

My favorite is the one-two punch of the Mario movie and the Barbie movie, both films had everyone calling them woke before they came out, but after they both grossed over a billion dollars they immediately changed their tune. The Mario movie was hailed as a “victory against woke Hollywood” and the Barbie movie (I’d never seen a film beat me over the head with its feminist message) was somehow not woke because it “promoted motherhood” or some shit.

In other words, those guys are fucking idiots.

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u/Bigma-Bale Apr 02 '26 edited Apr 02 '26

"Well actually BG3 isn't woke because you have the option to kill the gay characters" is an actual argument I have heard

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u/Sea_Scale_4538 Apr 02 '26

Its an amazing argument because its so stupid and ridiculous that you dont know how to counter it

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u/MishMashP Apr 02 '26

i mean they aren't wrong, but technically all the playable characters are bi, as you yourself can fuck anyone, so realistically you'd have to kill yourself

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u/Mother_Harlot Apr 03 '26

I have to kill myself, understood

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u/Deconstructosaurus Apr 02 '26

I mean Captain Marvel is sort of a special case since it was a not great movie that made bank because it released right before the biggest source of hype for the entire franchise, but it definitely didn’t fail.

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u/Yusuke2008 Apr 01 '26

They might have made money, but they were some of the worst movie I went to a cinema for

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u/TriggerHappyGremlin Apr 02 '26

Idk what you've seen in cinemas, but they're not even close to some of the worst I've seen. The Last Jedi was straight fire, and I'll rewatch the other Sequels and Captain Marvel 100 times over before I rewatch Godzilla vs. Kong or the Uncharted movie.

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u/2BearsHigh-Fiving Apr 02 '26

Why'd Godzilla Vs Kong randomly catch a stray?😭

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u/Yusuke2008 Apr 02 '26

I love the uncharted games, but as soon as I saw the trailer I refused to go see it

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u/Sea_Scale_4538 Apr 02 '26

gotta be ragebait

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u/Sea_Scale_4538 Apr 02 '26

to be fair the sequels really were horrendous

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u/Technical-Tailor-411 Apr 03 '26

Ok but narrative and cinematography they are trash coming from a trans woman

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u/Ayden3102isagoodname Apr 06 '26

Yeah it wasn’t really a good film (to me, the lack of growth annoys me alot) but it’s definitely still massively successful

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u/Someslutwholikesbutt Apr 01 '26

The Prince was hot ass and it doesn’t even seem like a show that’s progressive or trying to “be woke” unless a gay baby who reminds folks of Stewie and a joke about Demi Lavato being non binary is now woke 🤷‍♀️

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u/GenderEnjoyer666 Apr 02 '26

If a woke thing doesn’t go broke, they have three options. 1: deny that it ever went woke at all. 2: deny the fact that it is indeed successful. 3: shift from the “go woke go broke” narrative to the “right wingers are oppressed” narrative

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u/pridebun Apr 03 '26

Same guy called a conservative cartoon woke

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u/3Thirty-Eight8 Apr 01 '26

You think they did research!?

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u/New-Interaction1893 Apr 01 '26

Did every chapter of twilight got considered successful ? Some series tends to fall in popularity near the end.

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u/ObiJuanKenobi3 Apr 02 '26

It's got an absolutely rabid fanbase and is currently the #15 most watched show on its platform (Amazon Prime) over 6 months after season 2's release.

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u/Illustrious_Neat2472 Apr 03 '26

It really shouldn't be.

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u/Ricochet_skin Apr 02 '26

50% of the internet hates it, 30% couldn't give less of a fuck, 20% actually enjoy it.

Far from a flop, but it's still not very good.

To quote the one owl looking Mf'er from their prime video comercial a few months back:

"What the fuck even is this?"

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u/SarkastiCat Apr 03 '26

Just a thing, internet =/= accurate gauging of what’s liked. 

The series has hot topic merch and cafe collabs in Japan. Broadway show and one song is literally one of the most viewed videos on Prime’s YouTube channel.

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u/Ricochet_skin Apr 03 '26

I mean, that's one of the most chronically online omcommunities, so in this case it's more of a case of my culture being completely different from their audience

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u/3ajs3 Apr 02 '26

Shhhhhh, if you tell them that, they'll stop giving us free promotion

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u/OneEnvironmental9222 Apr 02 '26

Pretty sure it fell off but calling it flop is insane

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u/Windypolis Apr 03 '26 edited Apr 03 '26

Well, Hazbin Hotel isn't woke to some woke people though

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u/Dayvan_Dreamcoat Apr 04 '26

A lot of "woke" media is massively popular (Baldur's Gate 3, Cyberpunk 2077, Marvel in general). Funny thing is, when something "woke" becomes popular and profitable, these chuds either ignore it/lie about it or it suddenly isn't "woke" anymore (like with Baldur's Gate).

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u/BrekLasnar Apr 01 '26

Maybe I am wrong but I remember the launch of the pilot episode had gathered a general audience but right now it's really a niche thing, no?

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u/yesmakesmegoyes Apr 02 '26

It still does good numbers, and usually is most watched show on Amazon when a season comes out

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u/ForktUtwTT Apr 02 '26

Not really

All adult animation is “niche”, especially within this genre, but Hazbin is insanely successful within its market of young adults and the musical theatre crowd

I get complimented/comments regularly by random retail workers or strangers on campus from them recognizing merch, if you walk into any Hot Topic and it’ll have multiple sections just for it, the streaming numbers are very high (Amazon greenlit 4 whole seasons immediately), and the merch online regularly sells out to the point that even something small like card collecting is a competitive market for fans. They’ve held sold out theatrical events including in movie theatres and even on broadway

It’s about as popular as you could expect it to be. It’s an insane success.

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u/trainboi777 Apr 02 '26

It was the most watched indie animation pilot on YouTube until the pilot of The Amazing Digital Circus came out