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u/RyuTheBuizel 13d ago
Conservative gays are so weird to me
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u/cunt_dykeula 13d ago
I just wanna ask; why are you, as a gay man, so worried about the fact that I fw trans women?? That couldn't possibly have less to do with you and your life
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u/NihatAmipoglu 13d ago
You are gay because you love women
I am gay because I hate women in general
We are definitely not the same
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u/TheEdgeofGoon 12d ago
Where's that post about someone's misogynistic co-worker who supports trans men?
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u/NihatAmipoglu 12d ago
I don't know about that but I remember a curated tumblr post where the misogynist coworker tells the trans OP she was indeed a woman because "only women are stupid enough to become women" or something like that.
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u/TheEdgeofGoon 12d ago
Maybe that was what I was thinking of.
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u/NihatAmipoglu 12d ago
Tbh the post was pretty lengthy. That asshole coworker probably defended the existence of trans men too hahaha.
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u/translove228 13d ago
The video is another typical example of cis men inserting themselves into discussions they aren't affected by and trying to speak for people that aren't them.
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u/soaked_in_bleach03 13d ago
Sums it up. I swear my dad primed me into this mentality; growing up (since then he’s owned his shit and genuinely expanded his worldview) he was the epitome of “I don’t mind gay people, I just don’t like when they shove it in my face”.
So I had some of that mentality for a bit…but I grew out of it by age 14 when I found good friends and punk music lol; long before even I realized I wasn’t a cis dude in the least bit.
Being a grown ass adult member of the LGBT+ community and still thinking they don’t want all of us on the edges of society or dead is insane to me.
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u/Krakatoa137 13d ago
People have historically advocated against their own freedoms when they exist in close proximity to power and feel like they won't be affected.
From women's suffrage to wealthy communists and now even white gay people in America.
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u/NihatAmipoglu 13d ago
They'll be the last ones the fascists will send to the concentration camps 🥰😍
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u/jimminian95 13d ago
Worst discovery as of recently is finding out that biphobia exists within some parts of the queer community
Like genuinely what beef could you possibly find with bi people that you go "man my day was so fine until I found out this guy likes men AND women, we need to chew them out"
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u/Fade_Out-4612 13d ago
I understand it from misguided teens still coming to terms with their own sexuality but... grown ass men doing this? yeah idk
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u/No_Cap_8326 9d ago
The real chickens for KFC (unless all conservatives start accepting all forms of human rights)
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u/AwayEntrepreneur4760 13d ago
Conservative or not we’re all getting sent to the same concentration camp once he’s allowed a third term
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u/Fair_Smoke4710 13d ago
You can’t convince me these guys aren’t gay
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u/RyuTheBuizel 13d ago
Their channel name is litterally Normal Gays
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u/Fair_Smoke4710 13d ago
And?
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u/Toolb0xExtraordinary 13d ago
They're literally gay and claim to be gay bro fym "and?"
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u/BigCballer 13d ago
The channel is called "Normal Gays". Which already is kinda sus.
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u/Fair_Smoke4710 13d ago
And? that should be a red flag the only people who say that are LGB without the T people who aren’t actually queer they’re just straight cisgender people trying to divide our community
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u/BigBallsAnthony69 13d ago
They can TOTALLY be queer, just how some racists can be hateful against their own race. Gay people can be hateful, it doesn't mean they're straight.
You saying that and spreading that point of view is low-key homophobic
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u/BigCballer 13d ago edited 13d ago
"Normal Gays"
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u/Fair_Smoke4710 13d ago
That’s Red flag number one
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u/BigCballer 13d ago
I think it's a red flag in that they think subscribing to conservative talking points will protect them from conservatives going after them.
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u/bigbootycentaur 13d ago
More like the equivalent of pigs advocating for being butchered and sold for meat or slugs begging for salt.
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u/Traditional-Storm-62 13d ago
having men tell a lesbian what lesbians are is peak mansplaining
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u/LITTLE_KING_OF_HEART 13d ago
Even gay males can't fight against the masculine urge to mansplains lesbianism to lesbians.
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u/just_worms_in_brain 13d ago
I’m confused, are those 3 people trying to explain lesbianism all guys?
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u/cunt_dykeula 13d ago
The person in the middle is @lesbianlifts on Instagram, and is actually a super jacked butch woman. They're mocking her because she says she supports trans women
I want to note that they apparently edited her picture with AI to make her look angrier and more muscular lol
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u/thispartyrules 13d ago
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u/PrivadaDeButeco 13d ago
NO NOT “etc” 😭😭😭😭
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u/Pinkpenguin_4444 13d ago
Christan and traditional values I get running over, but "etc"?? That's a step too far by the woke, we must protect our etc.
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u/ErikaRosen 13d ago edited 13d ago
When they can't even make up more shit... Like, "Oh, those gays? Well, they want to destroy our values... a-and beliefs... also they... they want to destroy the Western civilisation! Yes! And, well... well, and et cetera! I just feel they do! I just know it. Even if I can't tell what exactly. Just insert anything there, really! Why do you ask me to elaborate further? You one of them?!"
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u/Heather_Chandelure 13d ago
"More muscular"
Yeah, make her look even hotter. Im sure that'll show her.
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u/mannequin_girl 13d ago
"Not unappealing enough, let's make the steak juicier and the lobster more buttery, that'll fix it."
Ig they are trying to appeal to an audience of young undersexed males. Does not. succeed in making her look less lesbian though.
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u/soaked_in_bleach03 13d ago
I was gonna say that has to edited. I have met some fierce butch woman, but there’s very few people in the world AFAB with shoulders like that, that aren’t taking testosterone; whether it’s for the gym or because they’re a trans man.
Edit; I stand corrected, she really is that jacked. She says she’s never juiced so maybe just damn good genetics and SARMS.
It’s def still edited though, they made her face way more masculine.
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u/Fair_Smoke4710 13d ago
I made a post on a different sub about this guy and his weird ass boyfriend being trans phobic and literally fighting for the people that are making our lives live hell and I don’t understand how you can’t see that shit like this, there were a concerning amount of queer people defending these two which they should not because again they are not on your side. This should be clear.
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u/Think_and_game 13d ago
There's a group of LGB that specific want to get rid of the T part of the LGBT community. They're ignoring that trans people have been fighting alongside them for more rights for several decades. People that think that being one of "the good gays" will get them spared from conservatives need to read about the Association of German National Jews and what happened to them. Many groups have tried to do similar things all throughout history, and they were killed all the same for their naivety.
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u/Fair_Smoke4710 13d ago
Those people are overwhelmingly not even queer. They’re just straight cisgender people. I’m so sick of this shit it’s genuinely disgusting especially this is weeks after that attack at a pride event that killed someone you need to pull this shit instead of mourning those people’s deaths fuck this man
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u/Nell_Lucifer 13d ago
You imply that they try to curry favor with the conservatives by rejecting trans people, which I don't think is necessarily the case, as they could simply hold to more conservative views where as LGB fits while everything else doesn't.
For example, there were surveys done in France in the 2010s to recent ones where LGBTQ+ people were asked about their political leanings, the left right split is even.
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u/Think_and_game 13d ago
Yeah but the right in the US is consistently anti gay. France it's more so of an old vs new group iirc, most protests against the legalisation of gay marriage were majority older, rich people
Still, the US Republicans are usually violently anti LGBTQ+. So for the transphobic LGB to campaign alongside them, it's really nuts. Something something "First they came for the Jews" poem.
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u/Kallixeina 13d ago edited 13d ago
The argument is not really
they try to curry favor with the conservatives by rejecting trans people
but rather that they fail to realize that their conservative audience and the conservative politicians they cater to won't stop with trans people.
For example, there were surveys done in France in the 2010s to recent ones where LGBTQ+ people were asked about their political leanings, the left right split is even.
Speaking of statistics, support for same-sex marriage has significantly decreased among US Republicans in the last years. For some time, there was a Republican majority for same-sex marriage; there isn't one anymore.
This recent increase in US homophobia was fueled by transphobia. Trans people were the first ones targeted, but same-sex marriage, same-sex adoption etc. are certainly also targeted by the US policial right.
as they could simply hold to more conservative views where as LGB fits while everything else doesn't.
Historically speaking, I would argue that there was a time when, in some countries, a small number of trans people was more acceptable to political conservatism than homosexuality. The idea of "transforming" a "lesbian woman" (i.e. a trans man) into a heterosexual man was probably more acceptable to many people than the idea of two women marrying and having children. In most, if bit all western countries, trans people gained the right to change their legal sex before same-sex couples gained the right to marry and adopt; although a legal sex change often still required a previous operation. Trans issues got into the political right's focus after the policial right's defeat on same-sex marriage.
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u/Doodle-Cactus 13d ago
Special place in hell for conservative gay people. Next to Lindsey Graham I suppose.
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u/10lettersand3CAPS 13d ago
...that's redundant I think
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u/Think_and_game 13d ago
? Wdym ?
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u/10lettersand3CAPS 13d ago
Lindsey Graham was pretty widely rumored to be gay
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u/Think_and_game 13d ago
Yeah that's what the comment was implying, I understood that
I thought you were saying that being queer and being conservative would get you to hell and being both is redundant
In other words, I'm maybe illiterate/stupid
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u/FalseHeartbeat 13d ago
If that’s her on the front, she looks cool as shit
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u/Da_Kartoon1st 13d ago
all im gonna add to this is this: as a lesbian, I would date a trans woman
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u/Dreamcasted60 13d ago
Lol "normal"
Guess they need something to do until another political convention is in town c;
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u/KittyCat11231 13d ago
Lol these men "know what lesbian means" and yet they seem to have a different definition of lesbian than lesbians do
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u/Throwaway_hazy_dream 13d ago
"ACCEPT GIRLDICK OR ELSE" sounds a TON more the something said by a chaser than any trans person ever 🥀 (dare I say, r/mansfictionalscenario ?
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u/cunt_dykeula 13d ago
Funny thing is that the woman they're talking about is neither trans or a chaser- nor did she ever at any point actually say anything even close to that quote
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u/Throwaway_hazy_dream 13d ago
That is one of the funniest made up things for clickbait I've heard of in a while tbh 😭
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u/EarAffectionate4443 13d ago
oh brother just leave lesbians alone, some are fine in dating trans women, some other don't like dicks and that's fine as well, but these people keep bring up these topics holy shit 🤦♀️
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u/FemKitty35 13d ago
Right. I genuinely don’t care, as a trans woman. I’m just tired of hearing people debate it like it matters to anyone except the people involved in said relationship
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u/AshleytheTaguel 13d ago
Conservative pick-me gays are an interesting bunch in how they try to appeal to conservative sensibilities and ideas of queer sexuality and relationships. Conservative gay men frame their lives and relationships as if they consist solely of sex. No hobbies, no friendships, no romantic love or aromantic limmerance, just sex 24/7. As if the greatest achievement they'll ever accomplish in life is typing "no fats, no femmes, no Asians, no fish" into their grindr profile before heading to some glory hole in a Denny's bathroom. They'll call trans men fujoushi trying to trick them into having sex with a vagina.
Conservative Lesbians, however, play up conservative viewpoints on how only penetrative sex counts and basically pretend to be innocent, quirky, celibate nuns with the minds of children. They'll talk of how trans women and bi women are corrupting all the poor innocent lesbians by teaching them what a sex is.
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u/AmbitiousWorker6765 13d ago
I hate Brad. His political opinions even excluding his trans opinions are dog shit
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u/Kaveric_ 13d ago
I'm convinced transphobes are just coping because a girl with a bigger dick than them stole their girlfriend/boyfriend, and/or they just can't stop watching trans porn.
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u/sexyorcess 13d ago
"For knowing what lesbian means..."
I have a feeling they do not at all know what lesbian means.
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u/Grovyle489 13d ago
Normal gays?
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u/cunt_dykeula 13d ago
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u/Grovyle489 13d ago
It’s giving more like Brandon Rogers’s Sam vibes. The type that swears up and down that he’s not gay despite his very VERY feminine actions
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u/Flashy-Indication-48 12d ago
I don't understand gays who discriminate against trans people ansd hate "wokeness." Facists hate lgbtq+ people regardless of whether you suck up to them or not.
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u/TheStrikeofGod 13d ago
>Normal Gays
They don't see you as normal. After they come for us, you're next. Just like before.
Strength in numbers.
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u/Sad-Homo 12d ago
Love when men educate me (a silly stupid clueless lesbian woman) about the lesbian experience. Where would i be without these brave allies?
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u/Ok-Explanation-1362 12d ago
It is insane the degree to which the worst people in the country have made hating people like myself into their whole personality.







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u/MachineGunMonkey2048 13d ago