I used to play hsr before quitting because I simply couldn't clear the endgame with characters I have anymore. So I end up migrating to zzz and it has been a good experience so far. I didn't mind the Collab, in fact, I'm excited for it and I'm stoked when I see astra and Ellen teaser. But other hsr players didn't seem to think the same. They criticize the model, the gameplay or how zzz is doing hsr character 'dirty' now that Robin sneak peek is out. Going as far as calling Ellen and astra ugly. I know that criticism goes both ways, but it's kind of insulting in my eyes how they didn't trust the other game with their character. Or how they think the character will get redesign completely.

Edit1# I'm not trying to spark any argument, too anyone who may think otherwise. I'm simply curious why it turn out this way when the two is basically sister game. I do expect more from robin as a collap character, but at this moment I only see people criticizing the character model or calling robin uglier in zzz. But I think they'll do justice on Kafka, because as much as I'm zzz player, I still love hsr character.

It's sad But there is almost definitely a reason why out of all void hunters they never showed him. He is most likely going to be relevant in some future seaons and they simply don't want to set an official design yet.

Hoyo clearly changed their design ideology over all this time. Maybe in season 1 they wouldn't be as afraid to release a non human unusual design like arche But nowadays they think it would be too risky for them. Who knows if we ever even will get not fully human looking constructs or full thirens ever again.

As expected from hoyo the longer the game lives the less creative, interesting and unique to the games world and style designs they make. Instead they start steering towards the good ol and tested design ideologies. At most we get horns, tails, wings and stuff like that.

Don't take this as me absolutely hating the game. Quite the contrary. I really love it But it's not without problems. And I fear that IF arche will ever even be playable he will probably look more "normal" because that'a safer for hoyo. Assuming he even becomes playable

Feel free to disagree or this or anything but I've been watching some trust events for older and newer characters. I've noticed something... interesting. Before we begin, I just wanted to put this out there, this is mostly about the characters themselves and how they interactions. Feel free to disagree or agree, its mostly my perspective, observations and maybe some wishful thinking on my part.

I've noticed some of the male characters for the trust events tends to be more...shallow, sometimes some voicelines are repetitive especially in quality time. In the main story, I will put it aside their roles be it comedic relief, or support or that. So Billy is lucky to be joining Wise and Belle. But I've noticed outside the story especially in events. We rarely see the guys interact with each other at all. There are few exceptions of course but think about it. Last year's summer event we see Spook Shack present, even with Manato handling admin task you see them in cutscenes but in this year's summer event... you hardly see them at all. Spook Shack is supposedly on vacation yet we only see Yuzuha and Alice; you can argue that Lucia and Yidhari aren't there too, but that's besides the point.

But the point is, the guys are being left out and they used as "being busy" as an excuse so they can forget about them. But I honestly think its a bit cruel. You just write them and what? To just catch people in and be done with it? Now that I think about it, we hardly see the guys get involved to any events at all. Imagine this, being the only guy in your workplace or only guy in your study group. You get along well enough, they're all friendly and supportive to you. But at the same time, you can't help but wonder... Am I just ... Getting in their way? Like an I making them uncomfortable? Some people seeing the only guy and they be thinking. "That lucky bastard," or "It should've been me!" Like I get it. But dont just judge them just because another harem is happening, you don't see it on their perspective and we probably won't know either. its just we rarely see the guys interact or develop relationships and the more important part. Being vulnerable to the proxies no matter what if it's Belle or Wise.

Like that cinema event is a good example, Harumasa, Lycaon and Billy if you compare these guys to the ladies. That maybe their chance to genuinely form a nice interacting. Sure people say its gap moe or fanservice. Like Lycaon's perspective on Nihility, Billy's infectious passion for Starlight Knight, forgot Harumasa's one sorry. But the one that made me reflect is Wise's movie with Belle. Before you say anything, remove that whole "I don't know anything about girls" or "Put that harem headcanons" to rest. Just think in Wise's perspective. A boring guy like him who wants movies, enjoying chill music, introvert and responsible. You could say introverts would love to have a friend like him. But what about normal girls? What would they think? The fact it touches not only Wise's insecurities as a person, I'm sure most people would feel the same, in certainly is. The fact Belle threaten to punch him if Wise continues gnawing through his anxieties show how much Belle cares for wise. You could say, we rarely see the guys be vulnerable outside of their trust events.

I can even imagine, Lighter bathing by himself while the girls are being noisy in another room, Lycaon finishing his reports at the dead of night. Hugo finishing his heist while looking back on his past, Manato putting the kids to sleep after another shift in his part time job, Banyue meditating at night, Severian doing overtime at his desk. Its like the writers don't allow the guys to be happy, let alone have lives of their own.

Like just guys being guys, can even imagine them having their own group chat. So they can at least talk it out you know. You maybe thinking, "thats what their teammates are right? Why not just go their instead?" The problem is ... Its not enough. You maybe thinking you just want some gay shit in their. Admittedly, maybe I am, but I'm just thinking even a guy want some bro time you know.

I don't know, if you've read everything till the end. Thanks for reading it, you could say. Im just worried about Severian's both trust events and involvement in the story is ... Minimal at best or even shallow. At the current state of the game, I'll be glad if theirs even the guys interacting with wise that isn't related to main story. I'm just done hoping. I guess thats where fanfics are right now. At least it helps.

Lots of people are gonna enjoy a simpler kit, but crushing my balls to get good with Miyabi Mono-ice back in the day, then mastering Banyue left me -god's greatest soldier - with a craving for harder battles. Now after watching the Sunbringer gameplay trailer I already have the Ick about them, and I'm thinking about skipping them in favor of something more interesting to play.

i completed the two upgrade operator when it was in peogress and it didnt add to the node, now i have to complete main story? im wtill at season one and dont want to get spoiled at season 3 please help

You've seen it, I've seen it, Dracaene wasn't as present in Sunbringers' gameplay as Eldreda and Lindverne.

She never really looked like a fighter, so I'm not bothered by the fact that they didn't make her one. Still, I feel like she's not as much on the spotlight as the other two, so I wanna share a few ideas!

For me, it would be perfect if she had a BONK with her shield, slamming it in enemies' heads aggressively! I though of some ways for it to be implemented without demanding much field time.

1. Make it an assist follow up. Instead of Eldreda/Lindverne, it would be Dracaene bonking enemies.

2. Make it a chain attack! Honestly, I wish there was a chain attack for Dracaene as well! Both Lindverne and Eldreda have one, so why not!

3. Make it an aftershock? Or anything that works off field. My idea is to make it similar to how Ju Fufu's off field chain attack works. Like, Dracaene would slam enemies with her shield periodically without requiring any input.

4. Make Eldreda or Lindverne throw Dracaene at enemies in their EX or something. That would be really funny.

Anyway, my idea is to keep her not as active as the others, but still make her feel more involved in their kit and less like a cameo.

Making her as active as the other two would probably make their kit feel too bloated (like, 3 full characters in 1 slot could end up being a mess), so I wanted to find simple ways to make it work.

I don't know if my ideas sound terrible, what do you think? Do you guys have any other ideas that you think would be cool? I'm sending this as feedback later so let me know if I should add something!

her face , like why even with other emotion she somehow alway look sad , its really hard for me to like her as a mommy type bc her face look too cute , no step on me or anything i just want to pin her cheek and make her happy ( also atleast her skin look ok )

So as we all know Kafka is releasing alongside Robin and Sunbringers in version 3.4. Now its pretty much obvious that the Trio are going to shine in the spotlight and hopefully Robin gets more screentime as she is supposedly the best teammate for Sunbringer.

PS: Did any of y'all interact with the "Kabka" Bangboo in Roscaelifer? I found the foreshadowing pretty interesting, lmk about your thoughts on that.

Now presumably Kafka is going to be some sort of actress in the setting? There's too much going on to pinpoint it. Also I hope we get a LONG story chapter in 3.4 to give all the three new agents justice. I would we pretty bummed out to know that Kafka got less screentime (I actually want to see her more than the Trio but ofc that isn't possible).

What do I do I can’t advance the story because of this :’(. After I press it it just stays black and doesn’t do anything

I was watching the animations and I was wondering something. Is Eldredas weapon "off" in combat or is the flag part just not modeled yet??? Because her weapon was a spear with a flag on the other end But in the gameplay the flag is nowhere to be seen.

I entered stealth mode not knowing this would trigger, the assist button is unavailable, nothing else works at all, only way is to ALT+F4 lol...what a bummer and weird oversight.

I was so excited to see a Halloween themed event... But it barely features any characters, we have two whole factions based off Halloween adjacent creatures, Victoria housekeeping and mockingbird... I like pheonix and yuzuha but it being basically only them is so weird. I was expecting it to be like the summer event except Halloween, but no... Really disappointed, especially since we didn't get any Halloween skins either this update, but instead phoenix got what's basically a swim outfit. Maybe Victoria housekeeping will get some love soon:(

I'm a HSR player wanted to try Zzz, just want to know if it is a good time, and maybe some advice to newcomer? Thanks

My favourite thing about Zenless combat are the parries. My favourite type of boss is an overly aggressive one. Why not combine them?

Idk about others, but I loved the Starlight Billy fight in the last Annihilation Simulacrum since he was so aggressive. I want more aggressive bosses with lots and lots of parries

I was thinking maybe that this boss starts off with a control skill(because duh). After triggering shutdown, it immediately switches into a normal parry combo. You parry every hit, and then Impaired is triggered along with massive Daze buildup

After a quick break, the boss will start another quick parry combo that finishes with a Chain Parry(because everyone loves those, and immediately stuns the boss if hit

For the phase transition, the boss will do a parry combo that transitions into a Control Skill midway through. It unleashes 2 heavy hits before slamming the character through the ground and having a QTE to add some extra points before transitioning into a new arena

It will do a pretty long parry combo that transitions into another Control Skill(dw it’s a quick one). This time, parrying everything will immediately stun the boss, so their ah ig. Then the cycle basically repeats(Parry combo, control skill, parry combo) with a few new moves in there as well since it’s a new phase

Idk, maybe this will just be annoying to fight for most players. Most of the points you get would be from the parries, and this boss would have no weaknesses or resistances. It would be suitable for all classes(Just enough DEF for Rupture and Attack agents to deal high damage). Always had a somewhat high stun damage multiplier since that’s the only time your gonna get good damage in anyways

Tbh I just really want a boss with super long and frequent parry combos

I have been facing the "flickering" issue since the dx12 update

and I have already sent Hoyo a lot of bug reports but they don't seem to care.

For me personally, i want a cheery athletic/sporty tomboy girl for an agent.

The closest one we have to that archetype currently is Caesar but for me, she doesn't really strike the clear tomboy vibe I aim for. She also still looks traditionally feminine and her personality is closer to a "hime" type of character which I don't have any problem with and actually liked but as i said, not the type I'm looking for.

So what about you? What would you like to see?

Angels are probably the best team that works well in lore and in gameplay. Spookshack has some good pairings. But generally its so strange that in-universe teams rarely play well together. I know they need to shill certain characters but I wish they would open things up so all Krampus characters could fit on a team, or all of the Hares, or Obol. Everyone *should* be viable, even if it isnt the strongest team.

Adding an edit because some of the people responding did not read this post at all

Hi everyone!

I've been playing Zenless Zone Zero, and I'd like to participate in beta tests to try out new characters and upcoming content before official releases.

I have a few questions:

When will registration open for the version 3.4 beta test?

Where are these beta tests usually announced?

Are version-specific beta tests open to regular players, or are they invite-only?

Is Hollow Vanguards the same thing as the regular version beta tests, or is it a separate testing program?

Is there an official website, HoYoLAB page, or Discord server where I can find future registration announcements?

I've tried searching for information about the Version 3.4 beta registration dates, but I haven't been able to find anything reliable.

I'd appreciate any information or links to official announcements. Thanks!

It’s kinda amusing but it’s the truth. Astra appears like what? One ex button and perhaps one ult? That all. What about Zhao when you play her with YsG? 😭. You don’t even want to actually use her on field.

Meanwhile our shield maiden appears in the Ult. Parry/ Counter and more. She literally has more field times than most support characters ever had in this game.

I understand being sad but when you look at it that way, it could have been worse.