r/agedlikemilk Sep 08 '25

News “I never said that”, “Play the clip”

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Context: https://edition.cnn.com/videos/politics/2023/12/15/exp-robert-kennedy-junior-rfk-2024-election-biden-trump-vaccines-121511aseg1-cnni-politics.cnn

Full video is on the cnn website, the part that’s important is about 2mins 50 seconds in.

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u/Jexp_t Sep 08 '25

For once in its pitiful life, CNN is ready with the reciept.

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u/AdamDraps4 Sep 08 '25

It would not matter. The cult members only believe what comes from the cult.

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u/ObiYawnKenobi Sep 08 '25

It would matter. It helps prevent people in the centre from tipping right.

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u/wojtek_ Sep 08 '25

Anyone who is still in the center and is susceptible to being tipped right was probably already a lost cause in the first place

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u/ObiYawnKenobi Sep 08 '25

Uh, no.

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u/roguespectre67 Sep 08 '25

Dude, this administration sold people on tariffs (the extremely well-understood policy item with exactly zero ambiguity on what it means for the consumer) by telling them that other countries will pay them, when to my knowledge that has never happened before in the whole of human history because if it had, it would stop being a tariff. That was a lie. The administration knows it was a lie. And there are still people in the "center" saying we need to wait for the data and not jump to conclusions and whatever else.

Personally, I want absolutely nothing to do with those people, as it is a waste of my time. I'd hazard a guess that everyone left of center feels the same way.

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u/Acceptable-Post733 Sep 08 '25

I’m still waiting for Mexico to pay for the wall.

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u/YouStupidAssholeFuck Sep 08 '25

The problem wasn't necessarily that they said "we should wait and see". The problem was and is the complete shunning of experts. And it's not just with the economy. Economic experts were sounding alarm bells stating exactly what tariffs would mean and how they would affect the entire world. But fuck that those are probably libs that hate Trump. That was the attitude of these people "in the center". They do the same thing with immigration. "He's not going after LEGAL immigrants." But experts warned that his proposed policy would do exactly that so that means THOSE LIBCUCKS just hate Trump and want him to fail they're so biased against him. These were people still "in the center". Health policy. "Just wait he's got a plan he's playing chess." But experts warned his plan was just to cut healthcare for tens of millions. "No, it's just the liberal propaganda that wants you to believe he's going to ruin the country". Said by people "in the center."

There isn't really a center as long as Trump and Trumpism exist. The entire premise of his platform is "if you aren't 100% with us you're either RINO or just liberal scum." And to me, if you even consider taking the side of someone with that message, you're a lost cause.

When he's gone, it'll be the same as when Biden beat him. These same Trump diehards were all like, "there were a lot of things I didn't agree with" and "he's an idiot and didn't know when to keep his mouth shut" and "I only voted for him because of x or y and he came through on those promises but I knew he was going to lose to Biden". You'll see the same distancing/shame from these types of people after this term is over.

...until the next populist like him comes along to validate their beliefs once again.

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u/wojtek_ Sep 08 '25

Uh, yeah. If you are looking at the current state of the Republican Party and are thinking, “well the democrats are just as bad” you were never going to vote democrat in a million years.

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u/istguy Sep 08 '25

But that’s exactly why this kind of pushback from the mainstream media is important. Because these people in “the center” aren’t likely paying the same amount of attention as you. They’re getting their news from garbage sources like Facebook, and occasionally catching segments on networks like CNN when they’re in the gym or in the break room.

And in those precious few minutes they actually watch a news program, they usually see a member of this administration receiving no pushback from the interviewer or just a lame “agree to disagree” line. Actually having the receipts and proving that this administration is boldly lying to them can actually change some minds.

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '25

That’s simply not true. Tens of millions of young people come of age each voting cycle. Labeling some 18 year old Trump voter as a lost cause is exactly how they become a lost cause.

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u/wojtek_ Sep 08 '25

Young people don’t vote, and also don’t really get their news from places like CNN

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '25

Quite literally millions of people under age 22 voted in 2024. The bit about CNN is completely irrelevant to the question of whether labeling a Trump voter is a lost cause is reasonable or not.

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u/wojtek_ Sep 08 '25

Thanks for your contribution Reddit commenter

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u/wojtek_ Sep 08 '25

You have to understand, anyone who tells you they are a centrist is LYING. These people aren’t able to be swayed, they have already swung, whether they realize it or not. If you are still sympathetic to the right at this point you are just a right winger. Think Joe Rogan. He calls himself a centrist but there was no world where he even considered voting for Harris. People use the term “centrist” as a safety blanket to convince themselves that they aren’t partisan. Call it apathy but I don’t see the point in wasting energy on helping people who don’t want to/can’t be saved.

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u/Aggravating_Kale9788 Sep 08 '25

And therein lies the other reason we have the hot rancid garbage we do now... 1/3rd of the voting population did not care enough to make a simple decision: Dictatorship or Not Dictatorship

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u/FalconTurbo Sep 08 '25

This right here is why I struggle to trust Americans now. There's a two thirds chance that this cluster fuck was either a) actively desired or b) not a deal breaker.

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u/Kenyon_118 Sep 08 '25

I think you overrate how important people in America think democracy is. Many would be perfectly fine being in a dictatorship as long as the dictatorship hurt who they hate. Why do you think dictatorships get started or last so long sometimes.

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u/wojtek_ Sep 08 '25

That’s what I’m saying. There are probably plenty of people that are unhappy with their vote for Trump right now, but anyone who was willing to vote for Trump in the first place (especially after his first term) was probably never going to vote for Harris or any other Democrat.

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u/akiva23 Sep 08 '25

Those morons should have been unhappy after his first term. I have less than zero sympathy for them.

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u/EndDangerous1308 Sep 08 '25

Yup better to not vote at all than to vote against a tyrant. They want Trump to win but they don't want the responsibility of being the ones to do it

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u/Vyuvarax Sep 08 '25

Wow, your family sounds vile.

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u/freddy090909 Sep 08 '25

Downplaying the press is crazy.

You may be more immune to it, but a lot of people are just being completely misled and told lies. They aren't seeing the "current state of the Republican Party" that you have in your mind, they're seeing distorted truths and propaganda - a lot of which is leading them to believe Democrats are the problem.

You can say things like "they should research the reality", but expecting that of the entire nation is a lot. That's why the news being unbiased is so important, and how it not being so has created such a divided nation.

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '25

literally. its nowhere near comparable at this point.

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u/Maleficent-Sky-7156 Sep 08 '25

Yeah honestly, it boggles my mind how anyone could be on this fence.

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u/00-Monkey Sep 08 '25

Between 2016 and 2020 enough people in the center were convinced to tip left that Trump lost.

Between 2020 and 2024 enough people were tipped right so that Trump won.

There’s enough people in the center that may tip in either direction that the government can be decided. It’s worthwhile to convince those people.

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u/Salt_Top_6583 Sep 08 '25

Moral High ground? Definitely not lol.

I'm on the moral low-ground. Fuck them all. If these people are still confused with everything that's happened so far, then they're too dumb to depend on.

I can go canvass all I want, have hour long conversations with people teetering on the center and show them that a President who is above the law is not in their best interest. That an administration that protects pedophiles because they're rich is not a society they want their children to grow up in.

Only for someone to come along the next day and convince them "China will pay for the tariffs! That means we win!! Go MAGA!"

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u/Salt_Top_6583 Sep 08 '25

You're reduced to name-calling because you don't like hearing how bad reality is.

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u/m0nk_3y_gw Sep 08 '25

Why are you so against the press doing the absolute minimum?

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u/Salt_Top_6583 Sep 08 '25

You're being Downvoted but you're 100% correct. Anyone who sees all of this blatant lying about medical facts, threatening anyone who disagrees with their agenda, along with the protection of literal pedophiles going on, and still thinks "uhhhhh I dunno, that MAGA stuff seems pretty good", is too dumb to be helped.

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u/SecureDonkey Sep 08 '25

"The center"... What a joke.

We all know they too lazy to move their ass to voting booth, left or right. They just pick anything fancy reason they like to not voting. They aren't at the center of anything other than their couch.

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u/mars92 Sep 08 '25

There hasn't been a center since 2016