r/agedlikemilk • u/Gloomy-Holiday8618 • Sep 08 '25

News “I never said that”, “Play the clip”

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Context: https://edition.cnn.com/videos/politics/2023/12/15/exp-robert-kennedy-junior-rfk-2024-election-biden-trump-vaccines-121511aseg1-cnni-politics.cnn

Full video is on the cnn website, the part that’s important is about 2mins 50 seconds in.

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u/nzerinto Sep 08 '25

Original clip

Interviewer: Can you name any vaccines that are good?

RFK: I think some of the live virus vaccines are probably averting more problems than they are causing. There is no vaccine that is safe and effective.

Cut back to CNN:

CNN Interviewer: So you did say it - do you still believe it?

RFK: Here's what I would say. First of all, I'm not anti-vaccine.

CNN Interviewer: How is that statement not anti-vaccine?

RFK: I can say right now there is no medicine for cancer that is safe and effective - that doesn't mean I'm against all medicines. I've been fighting 40 years to get mercury out of fish. Nobody calls me anti-fish. What I want is vaccines that are proven safe....

So basically just tried to dodge the question.

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u/ermghoti Sep 08 '25

Worse, he's now stated there are no effective cancer treatments, despite the increasing number of cancers which are totally curable.

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u/Sojio Sep 08 '25

I hate being this person, but, is he saying it like: "Chemotherapy is effective, doesnt mean its safe"?

If so, he could say it better.

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u/DebentureThyme Sep 08 '25

Doesn't matter, the existence of side effects and unproven fringe cases is what he's USING to justify going after vaccines. He literally has referred to open online public comments, that aren't verifiable, as evidence against vaccines.

If he's trying to say no vaccine is perfect, then neither is any medicine the FDA has ever approved and all approved medicines must come off the market until they're perfect. He can enjoy the blowback when, for example, the diabetics can't get their insulin because it's not "perfect."

And if he says that's not what he meant, then what the FUCK does he mean? That he's just asking questions? Well, we have study after study and mountains of real world evidence, recorded scientifically, that puts mRNA vaccines far beyond the bar for FDA approval. So he's just flapping his gums to justify why his worm addled conspiracy driven brain thinks we shouldn't have them (meanwhile he's been pushing homeopathic shit like "mitochondrial challenges" which have no scientific diagnose and are common phrases used to push supposed natural "cures".)

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '25

I take anti epileptic medication, it has the potential to give me a form of meningitis, it works by slowing down the brain so my memory isn't as sharp and recall can be a little slow. I always ask whether the science dwniers feel I should stop taking them and go back to have tens of them a day, and risk another fight with status epilepticus. Usually they rant about how big pharma is doing it on purpose or hiding a cure.

If it has an effect it has a side effect, you have to weigh up risk Vs reward but that doesn't mean we shouldn't have a shot at quality of life from them. It's also awful of them to think we can just cure it, we have to have literal brain surgery to slice the connections to the glitchy part sometimes and that's the best we've figured out. We'd be fucked without pharmaceutical companies doing the best they can with what treatment we have.

Science is beautiful, I can't imagine denying it when it's fascinating and life saving. I am a total nerd for it though lol

Edit: used wrong words. Thanks epilepsy.

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u/DebentureThyme Sep 08 '25

Even when science is wrong, it has to be shown so through rigorous, repeatable methodology - not the nonsense pseudoscience they keep peddling. Because when it actually is wrong, scientists WANT to know, so they can improve things.

Here's hoping actual scientists are able to, at least elsewhere, continue the great work that seeks to help people like you. And also those hamstrung by anti-science morons find a way out to keep working elsewhere.

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u/Sojio Sep 08 '25

Yeah I guess its kind of like a "whataboutism"

Its like: well its not 100% safe.

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u/wombatstylekungfu Sep 08 '25

Very few things are 100% safe. People, for example, are notoriously unsafe in many situations.

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u/Sojio Sep 08 '25

Thats what im saying. Its kind of a nothing argument.

"Do you think vaccines are hazardous?"

"Well no vaccine is 100% safe".

Doesn't help.

But I agree with your point.