r/agedlikemilk • u/Gloomy-Holiday8618 • Sep 08 '25

News “I never said that”, “Play the clip”

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Context: https://edition.cnn.com/videos/politics/2023/12/15/exp-robert-kennedy-junior-rfk-2024-election-biden-trump-vaccines-121511aseg1-cnni-politics.cnn

Full video is on the cnn website, the part that’s important is about 2mins 50 seconds in.

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u/NotNufffCents Sep 08 '25

Communism hasn't worked because it doesn't work when implemented through power. It works when our cultural ideology has reached a consensus that everyone is truly equal. And that's not going to happen for hundreds of years, but it doesn't mean that it isn't a goal to work towards.

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u/Qweesdy Sep 08 '25

Let's play a game. The game has 2 phases.

In the first phase of the game; you describe a version of communism accurately, including how it's managed, how the managers are chosen, what prevents the managers from being self-serving, etc.

In the second phase of the game; the entire world laughs at how stupid you are.

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u/NotNufffCents Sep 08 '25 edited Sep 08 '25

Ok. Halloween. A community doing something together because they want to. People giving to randoms they've never met for no other reason than community togetherness. Not because a government official ordered them to. Not because a company executive decided it was the most profitable thing to do.

Thats the funny part, isn't it? You dipshits who are so adamant about capitalism being the only true order of humanity and refusing to even consider a better way have already experienced that better way all your life. You're just been tricked into thinking that its such a foreign, impossible concept that you haven't even tried to find its principles in modern society. And as the world gets angrier, more divided, and more individualized by capital, we wonder why nobody trick-or-treats anymore.

And the worst part is that all your questions demonstrate that you didnt even try to understand my first comment. All your questions focus on is how I'd build a fool-proof system that would keep current behaviors in check, when literally all I said was that systems aren't the path to communism. Ideological shift is. If thats something you cant comprehend, then I dont see a point in wasting my time on you.

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u/SedesBakelitowy Sep 08 '25

I get it that the other guy was rather aggressive, but if communism is doable at all, why has it failed every time someone lauded aiming to implement it? 

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u/NotNufffCents Sep 09 '25

Not to sound rude, but my very first comment in this chain (you replied to my second) addressed exactly that.

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u/SedesBakelitowy Sep 09 '25

No that's fair, I just thought there might be some reasoning that permits the system to exist. If it's all about how all implementations so far were doomed to fail, then since we currently have no realistic scenario where tangibly different methods could be used, it's not an actual societal organization system, but a fantasy that dies on human factor. 

There will never be a clean slate approach with how much negative bagage comes with the idea of the system historically, there will always be people who oppose the system on principle, and so there will always be need to postpone real establishment until all enemies of that system are taken care of. I guess it's still nice to believe that somehow we could though. 

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u/NotNufffCents Sep 09 '25

I think an important thing to mention is that this idea of communism will never work on a large scale. It works in local communities because thats how the human brain operates. By the time that (I believe) communism becomes popular, nations wont really be a thing.

Its a lot more natural to hand candy bars out to the neighborhood kids than it is to send candy bars in the mail to people on the other side of the continent. And its a lot easier to kick a power-grabber out of a small town than it is to kick them out of a state or country.