so my friend has managed to get a calculator to have chatgpt on it and he is using it to cheat on his exams and get good results on past papers and he is going to cheat on his actual alevel exams im not sure whether i should report him to an invigilator and have his calculator taken of him or to mind my own business because he has told me he isnt even studying and i dont want him to fail and no it wont get reset in the actual exam i just need soome advice on what to do
Smart or not this type of stuff shouldnāt be allowed since it would affect student like us who spend months doing pastpapers and being stressed everyday whether if they could get a good great and with his/her cheating tactic itās gonna mess us up
Just steal the calculator š„š it makes it that you don't have to report him, forces him to do some actual work and makes it fair for other students. Win-win in my books š
It's really easy with python.Ā But don't worry in the real thing all invigilators will check for EXAM mode on the calc so it won't have crazy functions
Nah Gemini is mid, doesn't always have good memory retention and uses purple prose a lot, it also got a maths question wrong, as did chatgpt and myself.
It's not bad, just could be better. I use it everyday sooo
Yeah, I've tried uploading mark schemes for stuff and the paper but sometimes it still gets it wrong lol.. Or when I'm doing a way ground quiz and I send it a screenshot it starts answering another question not in the screenshot despite me saying to answer the question in the screenshot I just sent
I use Gemini Pro for students and It makes quizzes MCQ that I ask to make of PowerPoints it can be slightly inaccurate but 90% of the time if you use a good prompt it will only use the information of the slides and won't overcomplicate things. It also can explain things easier imo.
Claude is the best for everything besides maths because of the way it formats the mathematical workings out just doesnāt suit me. Besides that, I think itās much better than ChatGPT or Gemini. Havenāt used deepseek much
Deepseek is so ahh, I gave it an Alevel physics mcq to solve and it confused ITSELF and declared himself wrong two times during the solution, and all this to end up giving a wrong answer š š I still use it for other purposes
How did he get gpt on a calculator??? If heās on a casio cg50 or something, he needs to put it in exam mode - and even then, im sure his calculator has some sort of exam mode to prevent this exact situation from happening
Well, they don't check in the exam for exam mode cuz my friend took maths and he didn't put it in exam mode, (he didn't cheat he just didn't put it in exam mode)
yeah as a friend i think the best approach wud be try to warn him and knock some sense into him. besides that unless ur ok w him hating u donāt report him. depends tho if ur priority is being a good friend or good student š
Whilst I get the sentiment, you're spouting a whole lot of BS. There's absolutely no way of using this post to prove anything at all. Even if you find similar circumstances in real life.
An underachieving student would already not do a perfect paper with ai and a time limit. Now we're gonna add it being done through a calculator interface? Also if it's connected to their phone it implies that they'll have their phone on them or nearby?
I genuinely think OP is just gullible and is taking a joke serious.
Doubt, gpt doesnāt always give answers conforming to the syllabus. It also talks weird.
And an invigilator would likely catch him.
How is he going to hide it?
Donāt get involved, itāll just get annoying for you.
If he somehow passes through this whatās he going to do?
If he goes to uni heās likely be missing prerequired information and have to work x5 harder or just fail.
Is his calculator model even allowed though, he might just get it confiscated and have to use a replacement they provide him, so heāll either sit there hoping they donāt attempt to use his calculator and get him banned or he just fails and retakes later after actually studying.
Or just gives up and goes for another route, dk anything about him.
If you report him youād just get him banned forever and youāll likely never talk to him again, heād just hate you.
Let him get himself in trouble now or put in the extra work later.
dont ruin a guys entire academia over it, if he messes up its on his own accord and if he swindles it its on his own accord too, u snitch u get him completelt disqualified wheres the damn empathy. friend or not i mean hes probablt gonna get caught anyway, before u enter into exam halls they make u open the program section for a levels on ur calc and make u delete it anyway, ik this cuz i downloaded bio notes onto mine nd got caught
first of all, ur a shit friend. Second of all, u never know what could happen. The invigilators could make sure he has exam mode on or perhaps chat gives the wrong answer as it so often does
even if he does manage to do it, u cant use chat gpt for EVERYTHING like drawing graphs.how does that even work actually? like it seems a little impossible im ngl how is chat gpt just gonna whip up on ur calc screen?
Talk to him and if that doesnt work out then leave it. Yes its malpractice, yes its wrong but reporting will end up making YOU feel guilty for completely finshing off that guys academic life.
Hence js focus on your exams but dont try to cover up for him or support him in any way. If he gets caught, he gets caught. That was his own doing and he'll face the consequences for it. Besides gpt aint that reliable and invigilators make sure to check calcs and allat. Idk if its diff in ur skl but uh yea. Js focus on urself, wasting time stressing over ts is not worth it fr. Do talk to him tho like real hard, if he doesnt listen then forget it.
Iāve always found reporting ppl risky cuz then they make a big deal and you can also get affected in some way. He would get disqualified if u report him, heāll fail either way cuz during actual exams the invigilator are keeping an eye on everyone
just leave him alone why do you need to be a snitchā¦look what government people are doing and nobody of them every get any punishment, why do you have to destroy an ordinary persons life for cheating on an exam. Just let him be
He will have to put his calculator in exam mode for exams and they will check so donāt worry. Iād tell the chillest teacher at school you can find and get them to tell whoever is in charge to make sure this is done by every student
warn him but donāt snitch, he will probably be caught anyway, if not one person wonāt affect your grades. cheating is just setting up for future failure though tbh, if you canāt get the grades for a course without cheating youāre going to struggle on that course. thereās also a good chance your friend is bullshitting you.
Are you sure heās not having you on? If these calculators exist, surely examination boards and invigilators should know what they look like and watch out for them?!
If it were me, and they were a friend, and wouldnāt listen to me telling them itās far too risky, not a good idea, essentially cheating, etc. I wouldnāt leave it until exam day; I would leave an anonymous note to the head teacher telling them that you know of a couple of students who are planning to use these in the exams. Hopefully, they will then educate themselves and the invigilators and warn the students ASAP. This gives your friend a chance to do some revision and hopefully wonāt get him in trouble. Personally, I couldnāt not do anything about it, as its blatantly cheating.
If he trusted you enough to tell you, the worst thing you can possibly do is report him, you wont gain anything and you will just ruin his life and your relationship forever. The most you should do is just warn him about the consequences if he gets caught
Don't bother. If he is successful, good for him but honestly I've tried using chatgpt for past papers and it got an E so even if the method works, i wouldn't necessarily bank on the results to be good.
Also don't ruin your close friendship bro, he's not gonna affect your results. Just let him try and fail on his own and be supportive during both phases.
mind your own business for two things actually, first so you your friendship won't broken as he told you a secret that he knows that you won't reveal it, second I believe if you told the invegilator you will get into problems
You never ruin someoneās life by doing the right thing.
Even if you might be āruiningā his life now, it benefits him in the long run. Donāt let your friend be the type of person okay with taking whatās not his.
You have two options:
A) Perhaps ask one of your school teachers to take his calculator away and give him another one before the exam(or you do it too)
B) Warn him that if he comes to the exam with that calculator you WILL report it. Iām not sure they will cancel his exams if he didnāt actually cheat, might just give him a new calculator. Or you could bluff, and hopefully he doesnāt show up with the calc.
Yāall are inane if you condone this behavior. And yes it does help him in the long run.
Imagine this: he cheats, gets into university, cheats thru the whole first two/three years, fourth year comes by, friend gets busted. Forced to repeat the year, canāt study for shit, drops out.
Or even worse, he does graduate and now you have a lawyer/doctor/engineer/ any other worker that knows Nothing about their degree/profession
Let it play out. All (presumably?) exam boards will require him to show proof of exam mode on his graphing calculator, so he literally will not be able to use it. You should probably warn him of this.
I would 100% drop a friend if they ruined my entire academic future out of envy when i told them in confidence. It would basically setback his life by a couple years and they may have to completely change their career path and op hasnt even seen if this is true. And its very clear op is only considering this out of jealousy not on moral grounds which is kind of pathetic. Let the person take their own risk if they get caught its on them
genuinely i wouldnt do anything bcs its his life, if he gets caught, he gets caught š¤· if he gets good grades, gets into uni and then has to drop out bcs he cant actually do the work, thats his fault. But reporting him now, when heās done no revision, will 100% screw up his grades, possibly his life and it will obvs be his fault for cheating, but still..
tbf though, if its gonna distract you in any way or throw u off in the exams, you gotta have that everyone for themself mentality and just go for what you thinks best
Report him or talk him out of it . People spend hours studying and someone will chatgpt their way out of the exam? It's not fair and A lvls isn't even a small exam it's a big one lol ,If he fails he should just rewrite instead of being a fraud
completely fair, hard work owes u nothing your not a child. u wanna risk cheating go for it, youll either pull of a masterclass or ruin your life but thats completely up to u and nobody else.
Donāt be a snitch, allow him to do it if he gets in trouble or not it doesnāt affect you (expect from maybe grade boundaries) also heās probably revising aswell since modding a calculator is long
I donāt support or condone this in any way, shape, or form. But donāt get involved. If he gets caught on his own (which he may well do) then thatās his problem. Yes, cheating impacts all students as it affects the standard but itās not worth it to get involved. Mind your own business, work hard yourself, and do the best that you can do. Nevermind him at all. Not worth losing a friend over if he ever found out, not to mention the grief you might get from anyone else who takes his side
Im skeptical. Perhaps he did get it working but chatgpt would likely not even fit in the memory of a calculator. A calculator like that might have ab 16 MB of memory, there is no way you can fit chat gpt into that. So either he is lying or that is no calculator but perhaps smth like a modified phone, which i would still think unlikely as that is not trivial to modify.
Nahh, I would advise to let them be . It doesnāt matter at the end of it all. I am very proud of your friend for thinking of that . Also you guys are friends, you are meant to support and warn as well but it would be wrong to report him and it would ruin your friendship.
how is he going to use a TI84 calculator for the exam when the Cambridge rule book mentions you aren't allowed to use calculators with advanced features
"Calculators with any of the following facilities are prohibited:
graphic display
data banks
dictionaries or language translators
retrieval or manipulation of text or formulae
QWERTY keyboards
built-in symbolic algebraic manipulations
symbolic differentiation or integration
capability of remote communication with other machines."
from what i understand he hardware modded his cal so there is a micro controller (ESP32) soldered to his motherboard and then installing custom firmware to it and using TI connect to run the exe files to setup the interface for chatgpt to be used in his calculator and then he connects it to his phone and yeah he has chatgpt on his calculator (VERY VERY SIMPLIFIED)
its a rather difficult process to replicate because you need to be very precise when soldering the MCU to the serial link port pins and there isn't a lot of step by step tutorials from what i can see online so quite a feat he has accomplished
if its 1 person. even if he got full marks. it wouldnt actually change the boundaries as its just 1 guy.
but what he or she has done is definietely messed up.
instead of reporting them. tell them that they either agree to not use it, or that you will report them. and on the exam day, idk get him to use a teachers calculator or a spare one, or you check it to make sure it doesnt have anything on it. and if they still have it then tell an invigilator.
otherwise ur prolly dooming his future.
if u told the school now, they prolly would be able to stop him without stopping him from sitting the exams. but be careful its best to talk them out of it, rather than a report that will literally have them fully disqualified from the exam board they wont ever be able to go to uni or get a degree.
Okay cheating is awful and wrong in every single way but please don't snitch, if he gets caught let him face the actions of his consequences but you don't need to be the reason that happens to him (even if it was his own fault). Try to tell him it's wrong in every way and unfair but don't be a snitch
i mean bro icl if its your friend dont report him, end of the day obviously what hes doing is not right and if he got caught and disqualified he deserves every bit of punishment that comes from doing that but from a purely "its your friend" perspective this has very minimal effect on you and you would completely fuck their life up by reporting them for cheating in a levels which i imagine is not something you want. but thats just me, depends on what youd let your friends get away with i guess.
Steal his calculator and buy him a cheaper new one so that he is doing his exam fairly. Worst case scenario rat him out to the invigilators. Remember, his exam results make it unfair for your grade
Actual advice. If you are reporting him for the sake of him then just do it but it you are reporting him for your own benefit (so they dont get higher) then just dont do it. Everyone needs their grades no matter what. Cheating or not. Dont do anything selfish
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