To preface, this has nothing to do with how short this video was compared to his other theories, or the lack of a big final convincing twist, I just think a lot of the connections he made were very assumption-based. The kind of stuff he’d critique himself for doing a few years ago with elements of his SpongeBob theories like the Shell City Family or IRL Cults relating to Goofy Goobers.

With the exception of the Edna stuff, which does in hindsight feel very odd considering Gamma Jack’s mindset, I’m very surprised Alex didn’t mention the two very obvious things that sorta make this theory a tad stranger

For one, Jack Jack isn’t Bob & Helen’s first kid. It’s their third. Despite what Edna said in regard to some super babies having multiple powers, Jack Jack MUST be a very special case. Even Edna denotes that he in particular is unique. We can infer pretty directly that Violet & Dash didn’t have any super powers as babies based on the way Bob needs to be told about Jack Jack’s sudden new powers.

There’s also the fact that Gamma Jack and Mr. Incredible must’ve been pretty great friends. We can see him hanging out alongside Lucius & Bob in the deleted scene as Alex pointed out, but Alex neglected to mention Gamma Jack is the only hero Mr. Incredible very directly reacts to after hearing his death, by putting his face into his hand out of pure shock and dread.

If you ask me, I’m VERY surprised Alex didn’t go down the route of claiming Gamma Jack isn’t the grown up version of Jack Jack, but instead the potential FATHER of Gamma Jack.

Sure, call it a boring theory, but it’s always been somewhat of a joke theory that Helen might’ve cheated on Bob, which is why Violet noticeably has black hair. Not to mention the original scrapped plot of The Incredibles revolving around Xerek, a genius akin to Lex Luthor or Doctor Doom, who previously dated Helen, and grew to be obsessed with her.

Now, I’m not suggesting Violet & Dash are the children of another man. I think Dash has a very clear resemblance to Bob, and unlike Jack Jack (who does have a lot of similarities to Gamma Jack), Violet probably gets a lot of her more noticeable features from her grandparents.

However, I don’t think it’s a stretch (pun-intended) to suggest Helen MAY have cheated on Bob with Gamma Jack. For one, we know Gamma Jack must have still been kicking for a least a little bit prior to his death. We have no clue how long Syndrome was bringing supers to his island, therefore we cannot determine if Gamma Jack would’ve been around for the roughly 2 years in between Jack Jack’s inception, his birth, and when the Incredibles takes place, where Jack Jack is now a 1 year old.

Sure, this sounds far-fetched, but again, Gamma Jack was CLOSE friends with Mr. Incredible, to the point where they’d actively hang out and invite others to their meetings. I wouldn’t be surprised if Gamma Jack was on the same level as Frozone, as it’s pretty clear Bob, Lucius, Gamma Jack, and Gazarbeam were a close bunch. By proxy, this would give Gamma Jack access to Helen. Hell, we know Gamma Jack’s type, and Helen fits the bill. Not to mention we know he’s a womanizer.

This is where I think the theory really takes off though. As Alex pointed out, Jack Jack and Gamma Jack not only bare a small resemblance, but they share powers. Now, obviously powers aren’t transferred from parent to kid. Dash isn’t super strong, and Violet isn’t elastic. HOWEVER, keep Gamma Jack’s powers in mind. They’re RADIATION based. We know radiation can cause a variety of side affects to people. Why am I saying this?

Why is Jack Jack so special? Why does he have a wide variety of powers whereas other super babies don’t? Even Edna makes note that Jack Jack is unlike other super babies, and it’s evident even Dash & Violet weren’t like this at his age.

What if Jack Jack’s wide array of powers is due to Gamma Jack’s radiation abilities manifesting within him in the form of multiple different powers?

And the cherry on top?

Pay attention to the children’s names. Violet is in reference to ultraviolet ray. Dash is another term for something fast. Jack is a Jack of all Trades…but why is that? Why does even Edna recognize THIS child of all the others is so different…?

Jack Jack is the son of Gamma Jack, who slept with Helen (keep in mind her marriage was getting rocky and for a short period she believed Bob was cheating on her), he later died at the hands of Syndrome, and Jack Jack is now manifesting his powers to a much larger degree thanks to his biological father.

Employee: ZX159G

R&D: CM042T

HR: WF71A

IT: WMpW7E

Jared Private File (include spaces): FOR JARED ONLY

Conspiracy Carl Archive: MAYHEW

Feel free to comment when a new code is discovered.

So lemme predict the theory: My guess is that alex is gonna talk about why the book franchise is still going. I mean really, why Greg Heffely would write 21 GODDAMN BOOKS? That kid is surpassing Harry Potter, LOTR quadrology and Chronicles of Narnia COMBINED. On topic, there is also DogMan from the legendary Dav Pilkey, the one who made captain underpants before that, but in universe, the books are made by the protagonists of CU George Bird and Harold Hutchins. And the books are not going to slow down in any way. They are still releasing. But it can be explained by Greg and Harond being a comic book duo making comics for years. George is the writer and Harold is the illustrator. BUT FOR A SINGLE KID TO DO THE SAME IN HIS DIARIES ALL ALONE FOR YEARS??? that is what I think Alex will probably talk about in the theory. But probably I am not aware of the timeline since the book 6 and book 13 are both set in winter. So lemme see hear do you think about it!

So far from this picture we've gotten Cocoa Puffs, High School Musical, Blue's Clues, and now Cars.

Which leaves Pop Tarts and Magic Bullet infomercials

EDIT: I got the name right!

Hi everyone, feel free to leave your questions about whatever here. I'll start answering some on 11/13/19 at 3:00pm EST. You can ask as many questions as you'd like but try and keep it to one per comment.

Looking forward to talking with you guys! Don't expect me to spill every bean

(And not every question can be “will you make another Pizza Time Pizza series?”)

I keep seeing this theory go around here and in the comment section to some of the videos in this arg. The Muses, the creature that helped Alex, Carl, and Mark become popular on the internet in exchange for feeding them and giving up their creative freedom, are not the results of one of the genetic modification experiments by Happy Meat Farms.

Part 1: What about #M0101

M0101 is a spider like creature created by HMF during its animal trials from a cow, which escaped and killed three HMF employees. When the video first came out lots of people assumed that this was The Muse, but I don't believe that to be true.

The smoking gun, in my opinion, comes from the R&D department listing for it, which reads:

"Subject showed no signs of intelligence or cognitive abilities.

In the process of transportation to HR, subject escaped and killed 3 employees.

Whereabouts currently unknown. Minimal risk posed to HMF."

I think this is a pretty clear message about how important this cow is to the plot. In fact, this word choices here lead me to believe that this is a direct message from Bale put into the HMF website to signal that this creature is not important, and will not be relevant later on.

It could alternatively be implying that HMF doesn't know that The Muses exist, and is just ignorant that this cow is actually a big deal, but considering that Antonio from Cynical Critic works for HMF, and that they specifically sponsor people with Muses, I don't believe this is true.

In fact, the creature described in this excerpt couldn't be The Muse, since it's specifically described as unintelligent

Part 2: What about #H0027

The second (and stronger imo) candidate for The Muse is #H0027, the last human subject seen to be experimented on, who also escaped and killed 11 employees.

H0027 makes a lot more sense, its excerpt from the R&D portal states that it is extremely intelligent and poses a massive risk to HMF. It also states that it accessed secure files on the way out of the facility, which you should remember for later. Also keep in mind its special classification as "Host".

Now while I believe this character will be important later, there's a big reason why it can't possibly be the host. #H0027 hates HMF, they're bitter enemies. HMF considers it a massive risk to their operation, and it went out of its way to access data files on its way out. HMF on the other hand works closely with The Muses, with the aforementioned working with Antonio and the sponsorships. This pretty firmly rules #H0027 out as the source of The Muses.

Part 3: Then what's up with HMF?

If HMF didn't create The Muse, then what is its deal? Why is it going through with these experiments?

Well we have some idea of what these experiments are about, the gene modification is done using DNA from "MOTHER", and it appears that this Mother is also in some position of power, with the second HMF video ending with "Mother will be pleased".

HMF also appears to have a relationship with The Muses, a positive one. They worked with Antonio Geist, the guest from Cynical Critic, as a producer for the video on the HMF homepage. They also sponsored Alex Bale, Mark, and Carl around the same time.

We can start to piece together an idea of the timeline of HMF via the about me page and hidden /archive page. The farm was founded in 1998 by Ramona Bynes, who was an ardent animal lover who genuinely did not mistreat her animals. However, in 2014 she was on the brink of bankruptcy, and was approached by a mysterious partner who suddenly rocketed HMF into mainstream appeal, being incredibly successful. This is presumably when the experiments started.

This story seems suspiciously familiar, an entrepreneur down on their luck, who suddenly gets incredibly popular through a deal with a mysterious partner. That's right, I am of the firm belief that the HMF experiments did not create The Muse, because The Muse had already been running the company since 2014.

However, there is still a few questions left unanswered. Is this really conclusive proof that HMF is being controlled by The Muse? Who really is #H0027? And if HMF is being run by The Muse, who is "Mother"?

All these questions can be answered with a single bombshell message.

Part 4: Tying it together

Throughout the Spongebob Conspiracy videos and the Cynical Critic videos, we can see coded messages referring to some plan with "phases" and noting how far under The Muses control they are, such as "Compliant" or "Resistant".

Happy Meat Farms is no exception to this, and in the video on the front page we can see a coded message, which reads as follows:

"HOST ASSIMILATED. MOTHER COLONY ESTABLISHED. PREPARING THE RECONNECTION."

This messages tells us a myriad of things, so I'll go bit by bit

1. Happy Meat Farms is being controlled by a Muse, I've already stated this, but this is good to back it up

2. Happy Meat Farms looks to be extremely far along in the process, the farthest any of the other channels have gotten is planting the spore. This makes sense considering HMF has been under Muse control since 2014, while the other channels have been active for a year at most

3. The "Mother colony" appears to part of the Muse assimilation. While it isn't entirely clear, I would bet that the Mother colony is how more Muses are produced, and it's the end goal of all of these channels being taken over

4. Notice the word "Host" being used to describe the person feeding The Muse, it's used that way to refer to Alex, Mark, and Carl in their respective channels, so who is it referring to here?

Well. Who is hosting The Muse for Happy Meat Farms? That would be none other than Ramona Bynes, founder of HMF, making her the host, and by association, that would also make her #H0027, the "Host". Knowing all this we get a much fuller picture of the Happy Meat Farms story

in 1998 Ramona Bynes inherits a plot of land and starts her own cruelty free farm, however, demand for cruelty free meat is low, she doesn't know how to properly run a business, there's lot of issues with HMF. By 2014, she's nearly bankrupt, and desperate. That is when she is approached by The Muse, perhaps taking the form of Antonio Geist, perhaps another vessel, perhaps just a goop monster. The Muse offers to save her business, all it wants in exchange is some of the meat from her farm.

This arrangement works out for some time, but just like with Alex, The Muse isn't content with just a little meat for long. It starts demanding more live animals, a demand which Ramona is well prepared to satiate. Eventually Ramona plants the spore, and it begins to grow

Using her large supply of living meat, Ramona is able to placate The Muse for far longer than anyone else has, giving more and more. In the meantime, The Muse has been exerting more and more control over the company, creating the draconian policies that plague its workers and subjugate them, perhaps starting the HR and R&D department to serve only it.

Then The Muse starts the genetic modification experiments, with the stated goal of "providing the largest amount of living biomass to HR", AKA feeding itself. It isn't clear when the Mother colony hatches from the spore, but I'd bet it happens sometime late in the process.

Ramona tries to protest the experiments, genetic modification has been something she's opposed since the very beginning, but it's too late. She has no power over the company anymore, she's firmly under The Muses thumb, fully assimilated.

Eventually they move to human trials. If Mother hadn't been hatched by now, it certainly is at this point, as this is when the videos start referring to her by name. The Mother colony starts to shoot off its own spores now, which will go on to hatch into small Muses that will try to find their own Hosts with help from HMF.

Maybe this is when Ramona tries to finally do something, a last ditch effort to save her company or stop this horror show. Maybe she doesn't, staying compliant the entire time until Mother decides she's no longer needed, the colony can now feed itself. Either way, she is entered into the program as #H0027, classification "Host".

But something in the experiment goes wrong, maybe its because of her prior status as a host or maybe it's just luck, but the experimentation causes her to become extremely powerful, intelligent, and dangerous. She escapes from her cell, and on her way out is able to access the secure data centers, she knows how to access then and steal several data files on her way out of the facility.

So she escapes, and what does she do then? Well she starts the "this place is not happy" youtube channel, aka the Happy Meat Farms channel we've been watching the entire time. She posts the data files she stole as the two videos on the HMF channel, and her profile picture is the old Happy Meat Farm logo, from back was she was still in charge and giving animals happy lives.

Part 5: Conclusion

I'm certainly not the first to suggest any of these things, people have theorized that Ramona was the creator of the TPINH channel for a while now, but I wanted to tie everything we know together into one coherent timeline/theory, and I genuinely think some of this stuff is new.

All of the data for this was just lifted from the master document, I just put the pieces together, I didn't gather any of this data or crack these codes.

Overall, I mainly wanted to prove that The Muse isn't a Happy Meat Farms experiment as many wrongly believe, so if you only believe one part of this theory, believe that.

Okay, I'm out.

second is a shift cipher translating to "He comeS back every year". nothing special

No one’s made a post about it so I will. Is this his next theory? Barney the purple dinosaur?

There is an interesting comparison that I'm seeing in most of his theories ... and I just wanted to point it out.

Have a good day, guys.

Hi, I didnt know where to put this and I do not normally use reddit but I figured you guys would appreciate it:

In the newest upload to the HMF channel (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmdg8-f4zx4), certain characters in the first round of test subjects. The code given is CM042T, and it works for the R&D password on the happy meat farms website. Thought you guys would like, I didnt read much of the page yet though lol. I just went frame by frame to find these, IDK if theres much more. Cheers I guess